Saturday, January 3, 2015

A Merry Christmas from Osama Abdallah

I received an email last week from "Osama Abdallah". Since Osama’s website has been associated with viruses many times in the past, I always scan his emails before opening anything from him. This time the link he provided gave me a phishing alert. After being confronted, Osama feigned ignorance. Here is a screenshot of the email he said he never sent.


While it is possible that someone else tried to engage in Internet terrorism in Osama’s name, his history shows that it is entirely possible that he did it himself.

70 comments:

Osama Abdallah said...

@Anthony,

I should probably sue you for libel. You are a desperate buffoon who has little brain!

What irritated me the most from your posted stupidity is your claim about my history?? What history you filthy coward? Ever since when did I send out viruses to people?? And using my real name??

And just for your little brain to finally get it: I myself do get those "Osama Abdallah" and other characters' emails on my inbox. Somebody probably hacked into your account and probably looked into your favorite people's list and found my name.

Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...
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George Monnat, Jr. said...

I'm sure it was an agent of the Great Shaitan who hacked his account to frame him.

Osama Abdallah said...

@Anthony,

Now that they finally zoomed in on you, from among the millions of names and emails they have, watch out for phony emails under your name as well. In all seriousness, I'd warn everyone in your circle. I had fake emails sent to my relatives, especially the kids, under my name.

This is for everyone.

Osama Abdallah

Foolster41 said...

Wait, you're saying you get emails from someone who pretends to be you to phish people? They must be really stupid then!

Also, you never answered my questions/comments on the thread about the debate with C L edwards.

1.How did this swapping with "Jesus"
Barabus work? Did Barabus tell John to take care of "his" mother? Are you claiming that Barabus was the one the bible is talking about all along? Neither of scenarios make much sense. If there was a switch, which Jesus showed their wounds? Was this also faked? Why?

2.Not a questtion, but please admit you were wrong about "I think" in 1 Cor 7:40. (http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/7-40.htm)

3.Back up your claim that Paul was called a liar. You seem to gave 3 entire chapters (1 Cor 1,2 and 3), and I can't find anything in there that backs this claim.

You claimed that Paul's disagreement with Peter proves Paul false, but this fails on a few levels:
1.The disagreement is never contained as a disagreement between two parts of scripture. I.e. Disagreement does not always equal self contradiction
2.It logically means the Quoran is false. Mohammad is depicted as disagreeing with the doctrine of other Muslims, so does that make the Quouran and Mohammad false?
3.It logically inconsistent. You claim the epistles are false (because they contradict the Qouran), but you can't show how they are in any way less authentic than the rest of the NT, and you quote the NT to back your claims about the Qouran. Therefore you are calling as a witness something you know is false! Why should we listen to someone who calls on a witness who he also says lies sometimes?

Anthony Rogers said...

Osama said: "I should probably sue you for libel".

That is rich. First I get an email in your name trying to hack into my comp, then you threaten to sue me for libel. The next thing you will tell me is that a bank robber can sue a teller if he/she identifies the suspect who tried to rob him/her at gun point.

Osama said: "What history you filthy coward? Ever since when did I send out viruses to people??"

Here is one of many people who have pointed this out in the past. This one is from back in 2009: Here.

Here is another person saying your site triggered their virus program: Here

In the comments section on the following thread, a fellow Muslim also points this out after calling you a fat loser (I guess you two have been taking lessons from the same person about how you speak to other people): Here.

If you would like me to provide more people whose virus programs start going crazy when going to your website, just let me know.

Osama said: "And just for your little brain to finally get it: I myself do get those "Osama Abdallah" and other characters' emails on my inbox. Somebody probably hacked into your account and probably looked into your favorite people's list and found my name."

First, most of the people CC'd in the email sent to me in your name are not in my "favorite people's list". In fact, so far as I can tell, I only correspond with two people in that list, i.e. Sam and George (thecenterforreligiousdebate), two people you have also corresponded with. Second, since you admit that you get emails in your own name, and since most of the names are people unknown to me, and since the only two names on the list that I know are also known to you, it would be more likely that your computer was hacked rather than mine. Third, since you are a computer wiz, I think it is unlikely you were hacked. It is far more likely that you wanted to do a little "phishing" and now are trying to keep a good poker face.

Baron Eddie said...

I agree with Anthony, and that is why I create a guest account and make it Limited (not administrator) and I use this account to browse the internet, that way nothing will be installed without the administrator permission.

Update windows and update browser with no script.

Radical Moderate said...

Anthony I write you all the time and I did not get a Osama Abduallah virus email. I'm shocked and hurt that I am not in your favorite person list, yet other people you do not know are members of your favorite person list.

I'm hurt man just hurt.

bam bamba said...

Osama Osama what has gotten into you?

MustSee said...

It was those damn Zionist Jews again...this time trying frame Osama.

Osama Abdallah said...

@Anthony,

Like your empty and false trinity, you have nothing but noise and false conclusions.
Let me get this straight for your little silly head:

1- There is a difference between a WEBSITE and an EMAIL FROM YAHOO, you yahoo.

2- My website had virus injected into it back in 2009, which had been cleared a long time ago. It's 2015. 6 years later.

3- I tried to advise you and advise every reader that you should lookout for emails of this kind. Seeing how silly you are, it wouldn't surprise me that you've already received phony emails from SAM SHAMOUN, DAVID WOOD, SAMI ZAATARI, JAMES WHITE, and others besides Osama Abdallah. So you're most proabably lying on me.

4- Why would I send viruses to my Muslim brothers who were on the email list that you posted?

5- And yeah, I must use my real name when I "send out" viruses so a dummy like you can figure it out, right?

I said it before to you, Anthony. You're a troll; a noisy troll.

Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

"Wait, you're saying you get emails from someone who pretends to be you to phish people? They must be really stupid then!"

@Foolster,

Like the Arabic proverb says: You are a name upon description.
This is when your name describes you well!

Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

David Wood,

I request for this stupid thread to be removed. Google and other search engines will pick it up, and it will show up when people google my name.
It is not fair nor right to charge me with something I am innocent of. Just because this stupid and desperate low-life moron, Anthony Rogers, got some phony email from some spammer, it doesn't mean that I have to carry his fault. He is a gutless coward who stoops to these low levels.

This is libel and I refuse it. This Anthony clown is probably doing this just to keep people away from www.answering-christianity.com because he feels its threat to his faith.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Hans Maier said...

Is there a chance to get a script of the text in the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw I translate the text and make subtitles into the video but sometimes I have a problem understanding the spoken words. Thank you.

hans.maier.dotternhausen@gmail.com

Haecceitas said...

I doubt that Osama would use such generic short email with a link to a website with Polish domain if he really wanted to do some kind of phishing (and to do it effectively). It seems more likely that some kind of email hacking has happened here.

Foolster41 said...

"Like the Arabic proverb says: You are a name upon description. This is when your name describes you well!"

Thanks for admitting you lied about those passages, since you can't answer me and instead try to insult me! You call me a fool but you can't asnwer my questions to back up your claims!

Also, what you said is actually a compliment!

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong." (1 Cor 1:27)

"What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments" (1 Cor 2:12-15)

OsakaceniNindza said...

Osama wrote: 'Like your empty and false trinity, you have nothing but noise and false conclusions.'

Why do you allow this brainwashed stone worshipper write things like that? What Holy Trinity have to do with this discussion?

Osama can't have a normal discussion without attacking beliefs of other people.

It is sad to see that man of his age behaves like angry child.

David said...

I'm amazed Osama hasn't blamed this whole mess on a Zionist conspiracy.

Osama Abdallah said...

"I doubt that Osama would use such generic short email with a link to a website with Polish domain if he really wanted to do some kind of phishing (and to do it effectively). It seems more likely that some kind of email hacking has happened here."

Thank you for at least being honest. Just need to everyone to know that this wasn't even my real email. I only had my alias on it, like a "John Doe" kind of thing."

GOD bless you, Haecceitas.

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

"Osama wrote: 'Like your empty and false trinity, you have nothing but noise and false conclusions.'

Why do you allow this brainwashed stone worshipper write things like that? What Holy Trinity have to do with this discussion?"

It was Anthony in the earlier thread who said that I spread the VIRUS OF ISLAM, and no I am spreading virus via emails.

Reading Anthony's post several times, I actually see his tactic. He wants to create a bad publicity on my website. Since he can't refute it, and it is a MIGHTY DANGER TO HIS FAITH, then advising people to not visit it is one great strategy.

I see his point. My website feels like a ton of bricks falling on your anti-Islamic faith as soon as you visit it. Plus, it thoroughly demonstrates the Zionist blots done in the USA and elsewhere right off the bat.

So I see how he would resort to this tactic. He probably received this "Osama Abdallah" email many times before. I received it many times myself. BUT WHY NOW ANTHONY?

Anyway, I am done speaking about this. I don't care if this libel will continue. It only testifies to the solidness of Islam.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

@OsakaceniNindza,

Muslims do not worship the meteorite (black stone, and confirmed by NASA that it was a meterorite)that was sent down from space to Abraham and Ishmael to determine the location of the Kaaba. Today, it is placed in one of the corners of the Kaaba to determine the beginning and ending points of Tawaaf (Circumambulation).

Visit my following link to see how in the Bible you have what I called SACRED BLACK STONES, where it as forbidden upon the believers to even TRIM THEM, because of their holiness in the Temple:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/black_stone.htm

http://www.answering-christianity.com/tawaaf_around_kaaba_supported_in_bible.htm


If you think objectively and without bias or emotions, you'll see that Islam is the Divine Truth.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Radical Moderate said...

David Wood, do not take down this Post since Osama Abdulalh keeps running his mouth, he is clearly guilty of sending the email to Anthony.

Anthony Rogers, I encourage you to turn this email over to the FBI cyber crime division as this is a serious crime. Osama Abdullah may have just wanted to play what he thought would be a harmless prank on you. However it is because of idiots like Osama that machines are exploited for more nefarious purposes.

Osama Abdullah I am shocked that someone who claims to have a masters degree in Computer Science would pull such a foolish and wreck-less stunt.

As stated before you may have thought it would be a harmless prank, but you of all people should know that once a machine is exploited it remains exploited and vulnerable to other attacks from other groups or individuals who are looking to do far more damage then a harmless prank.

I hope Anthony does turn you over to the FBI and you are made an example of and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Not because you worship a false god and false prophet. But because you are an IDIOT, and you should of known better.

David said...

I agree with OskaaceniNindza, why do you allow such a vile creature to blaspheme God so openly?

Osama Abdallah said...

".....I only had my alias on it, like a "John Doe" kind of thing."

READS AS

It only had my alias on it, like a "John Doe" kind of thing."

Typo.

George Monnat, Jr. said...

Was the kaaba stone already there when it was a pagan place of worship before Muhammad's revelations and conversion?

Osama Abdallah said...

LOL Radical Moderate. I never knew you carried so much LOOOVVVVEEEEEE in your heart towards me.

Foolster41 said...

"I see his point. My website feels like a ton of bricks falling on your anti-Islamic faith as soon as you visit it. Plus, it thoroughly demonstrates the Zionist blots done in the USA and elsewhere right off the bat.
"
Haha, Osama is so impressed with himself. He can't back up his claims about the NT he made in the last debate (insulting me instead when I insist), but it's shaking our faith to the core! Why are you still a Muslim? I get the impression that you don't even really believe it, but you desperately want to for some reason.

Osama Abdallah said...

"Was the kaaba stone already there when it was a pagan place of worship before Muhammad's revelations and conversion?"

Islam in Arabia started when Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them, build the House of Allah Almighty there. The pagans hijacked Mecca latter as centuries passed and turned it into a pagan place.

Think of it as the Jews' golden calf. Some tried to hijack Judaism and turn it into a pagan religion. But we know that original Judaism isn't that. So it doesn't matter what pagans did and hijacked.

By the way, the House of GOD in ARABIA is foretold also in the Bible. Visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

May Allah Almighty bless you! Ameen.

Osama Abdallah

Anthony Rogers said...

Osama,

I don’t know if you sent the email. I only know that it is entirely possible that you did so. As I said before, not only has your website been repeatedly associated with viruses in the past, as your own Muslim brothers have attested, and as I have already documented, but you have also been guilty in the past of FORGING E-MAILS, as you have ADMITTED on your own website. Haecceitas may put this sort of thing past you, but I do not. (I might also point out that your little Freudian slip, what you later called a typo, doesn’t help matters: “I only had MY alias on it [i.e. the e-mail],…)

Your reasons for suggesting to others that you could not have done this are ridiculous and easily disproven.

As for your claim that you would not have done this to your own Muslim brothers, who were also included in the e-mail, assumes that everyone reading this, including myself, doesn’t know how much hostility exists between you and your Muslim brothers. You are the same guy who wanted to arm bar Nadir Ahmed, your Muslim brother, in a cage match for calling you a F*&^@#% KAFFIR. I could include a dozen other examples of the fact that there is no love lost between you and other Muslims. (Is this the sort of relationship that results from being “brothers” without a heavenly Father?)

As for your claim that I am exposing this email hoax in order to deter people from your “devastating” website, that is also ridiculous. We have a whole section on Answering Islam refuting your website, and we have many responses to you here on the blog. We have also debated you more times than you care to remember. In fact, since you made scurrilous remarks about the Trinity above, here is the impromptu debate I did with you on PalTalk on the deity of Christ for everyone to listen to and enjoy. After listening to it, I am confident that no one with five or more functioning brain cells will think I am afraid of your “devastating” arguments.

Impromptu Debate on the Deity of Christ

Osama Abdallah said...

@Anthony,

The more you talk, the more ridiculous you sound. When people see the irrelevant links that you post, they'll see that you're quite silly.

Anyway, you're nothing but noise. Believe what you want. You're irrelevant. Your new tactic doesn't work. My website is beyond you, walhamdulillah. You won't be able to stop it, Insha'Allah.

As to the links that you gave, I looked at them. One of them doesn't have what you claim. The other was from a troll like you who admitted that he writes for this website. And the clown who called me an infidel isn't my Muslim brother. And the last link that you just provided proves that I am trustworthy and you're not. If I didn't step forward and admit my fault because it was bothering me a lot and especially DURING MY PRAYERS WHEN I AM STANDING BEFORE ALLAH ALMIGHTY, you would not have even heard of it to now use it against me.

The fact that you bringing these old links (MANY YEARS OLD ALREADY) proves that you have nothing but noise.

Osama Abdallah

smalltallest88 said...

@Osama
I have said it once, the only reason why Osama is still a muslim is because of what he get from his website. #Fame

Any historical evidence to back your black stone hijack by Pagan? Abrahm in fact never visited Mecca, so how he got the stone into Mecca still baffles me.

This might even lead us to the first muslim who muslims are not even sure of.

Osama Abdallah said...

@Anthony,

Based on your own writings, It is beyond clear that this phony email that you posted did catch you by surprise. I know you've received them by the tons before from Lagos Nigeria, Poland, Russia, China and elsewhere. I receive them all the time under countless different names. And you yourself was caught in your own lie when you said:

"...I always scan his emails before opening anything from him...."

So this proves that:

1- This phony email didn't catch you at all by surprise, because you've seen it before under other aliases, AND BY THE TONS.

2- You're obviously a despicable liar who has a hidden agenda behind this post.

I just want the reader to fully see what's going on here. This liar is acting as he's surprised by "my emails", when in reality he has seen these so many times.

Here is how many of them I have in my inbox, which is why I no longer accept emails and only talk to people via my website's blog's personal account:

www.answering-christianity.com/email_spams_all_the_time.png

You can read more about how I receive contacts via my blog at:

www.answering-christianity.com/emailme.htm

So Anthony the liar being caught BY A SURPRISE is a fake lie. He's a liar, and he's relying on Christ to wash it for him, which makes it very very easy for the likes of him to lie.

Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

"...It is beyond clear that this phony email that you posted did catch you by surprise..."

READS AS

It is beyond clear that this phony email that you posted DID NOT catch you by surprise...


Me and my typos again :(. Sorry about that.

R Kuckian said...

I feel like hiring the N. Koreans to backfire on Osama. Damn you Osama!!

TPaul said...

Osama, since you are discussing your pagan worship at Mecca, I resurrected an unanswered and conveniently ignored post to prove that Islam is deeply involved in pagan worship and rituals, unbeknowest
to Muslims who assume they are worshipping God, but Infact is contradictory even tho the Koran. Please read

" Osama,
Now that we have your desperate attempt for the Bible's approval of your despicable pagan ritual negated, let us see what the Koran has to say about stone veneration.

Osama, Ironically, the Black Stone (Hajar al Aswad) is NEVER mentioned even once in the Koran, however this verse from it should truly contradict this despicable pagan ritual.

Read:

Koran [21.66] He said: What! do you then serve besides Allah what brings you not any BENEFIT AT ALL, NOR DOES IT HARM YOU?

BENEFIT OR HARM ..... hmmmmm sound familiar? ? ? Here let me jog your memory...

Bukhari, Muslim and Abu Daw'ud reported that 'Umar approached the Black Stone and kissed it.

Then he said: "I know that you are a mere stone THAT CAN NEITHER HARM NOR DO ANY BENEFIT. If I had not seen the Prophet (peace be upon him) kissing you, I would have never kissed you."

Notice Umar must have been well aware of the koranic verse about NOT HAVING ANY BENEFIT OR HARM, that is why he use that specific Koranic phrase. Even he knew something was not right when he was asked to venerate a lifeless object.

The quest is, why would Mohammed do such a thing as venerating something other than Allah.

Mohammed was an Idol worshipper from birth until the age of forty when he had his demonic visit. He probably did his pagan rituals on a daily basis, and could not let them go, even after he got rid of the idols in the Kaaba, he still wanted to keep the pagan rituals, and venerating the stone in the corner was one of these horrible practices.

What is immediately apparent upon seeing the relic is the obvious likeness to the female aspect. The stone and casing resembles nothing so much as a vagina or vulva.

"This stone is set in large solid silver mountings. The whole resembles, quite deliberately, for reasons which will emerge, ‘the vulva of the goddess’!

’A principal sacred object in Pagan Arabian religion was the stone...
Camphausen, in his article [3], reveals that the misogynic Muslim religion has its origins in the worship of goddess. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al’Lat, and it was her shrine, which has since continued with little change, as the Kaaba. The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Koreishe (Quraysh), who not only worshipped the goddess Q’re, but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622, Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result."

Osama, When you write your article, make sure you mention these facts, and also that Islam contradicts itself because the Koran condemns the practice of serving or venerating anything that does not "benefit or harm you", but Mohammed wanted to hang on to his pagan roots.

Your empty religion is filled with pagan rituals and devoid of the true God..."

Osama Abdallah said...

@TPaul,

I sincerely feel sorry for you. As a Christian, you've been brainwashed/raised to be:

1- Despising to Arabs.

2- Very closed minded towards Islam.

3- Taught that Islam is your faith's #1 enemy, when in actuality Islam is the completion of your faith.

4- Taught that Islam is a pagan religion, when in reality Islam is not only NOT pagan, but all of Islam's Rituals are 100% supported in the Bible.

5- You're holding on to dear life to the false beliefs that were given to you about the Muslims worshiping the meteorite, when in reality none of that is true. Not only that, but I've shown you from the Bible that it is the BIBLE THAT HAS SACRED STONES, not Islam. Jacob even anointed a stone with oil for worship and holiness.

Visit the links above. May Allah Almighty lead your heart to Islam. Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Christian Albanian said...

I'm so embarrased by my fellow christian friends. Some months ago one of my emails was infected or hacked and somebody sent these kind of messages to all my friends including my other email accounts. That virus keept sending spam fo my infected email just like Osama is claiming happened to him. I even deleted that email account but I still get the same emails. He definitely didnt make that up.

I apologize for the prejudice of my fellow christians Osama. I really hope you give Christianity a second chance and stop ignoring some unnacceptable sides of Islam. Open your eyes Osama and see Christianity and Islam for what they really are and stop justifying everything to keep your current beliefs

Haecceitas said...

Just to be clear, I'm not really taking a position on whether or not it "is beyond Osama" to do such a thing (Anthony and others who have dealt with him directly are probably in a better position to evaluate that). It just seems to me that if someone like Osama would want to do it, he'd probably not do it in such a manner as is shown here. Although I suppose one COULD argue that doing it this way would provide plausible deniability vs. making the email and the domain less suspicious and more personalized. However, a smart phisher would probably find ways to raise interest (and thus the likelihood of getting clicks on the link) even while concealing his identity if the purpose was to targed specific known individuals.

One piece of evidence that would count against this being done by Osama is that the domain registration has been last modified on 2006 and it is registered with a Polish service provider. (See http://www.whois.com/whois/wroclaw.pl)

I suppose the problem of speculating about the matter boils down to the fact that in principle the evidence that points away from Osama's guilt on the matter can also be explained by a "clever forger" type of hypothesis if one is convinced on other grounds of his having done it.

George Monnat, Jr. said...

Wow Osama,

Did Gabriel reveal to you what all Christians, including me, have been taught? That's amazing!

Christian Albanian said...

@Osama
I sincerely feel sorry for you. As a muslim, you've been brainwashed/raised to be:

1- Despising to kafir.

2- Very closed minded towards Christianity and its Holy Scripture.

3- Taught that Trinity is false , when in actuality it is the completion of your faith.

4- Taught that Christianity is a manmade religion, when in reality Christianity is not only NOT pagan, corrupt, manmade but all Christianity's Beliefs are 100% supported in the Bible.

5- You're holding on to dear life to the false beliefs that were given to you about the Christians and Christianity when in reality none of that is true. Islam is a false religion and firing shots at other religions or trying to come up with justifications won't change anything

May God Almighty lead your heart to the only true religion, the worship of God The Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Ameen.

jay shawn said...

Osama, just some questions. Have you asked yourself why you are a muslim? Are you one because you were born and raised one or because you hate christianity? Why do you follow and make excuses for such a flawed man? Why do you follow such a mishmashed book, with no coherence, no context, no real substance? I dont understand you muslims. The entire religion of islam is an antichristian movement. You want to dethrone christ and replace him with muhammad. Its an attempt, from what it seems like, to one up christians every way it can. Its clearly supremacist, unforgiving, and uncompromising. Its the religion of the stubborn, clanned, 7th century arab and you see it with the behavior of your average muhammadan male. Just give it up man. Drop muhammad who has made you into a skave if gis sunnah and his god. This is not a way ti live your life. Accept christ as your lord and savior and be freed from this cult. Stop making islam and your prophet into what you want it to be and accept the truth about what it and he really is.

TPaul said...

Osama says "...Not only that, but I've shown you from the Bible that it is the BIBLE THAT HAS SACRED STONES, not Islam. Jacob even anointed a stone with oil for worship and holiness...."
Osama you are really full of yourself and you obviously have no reply to the questions I posed to you in my earlier post. I already refuted your claim about sacred sacred stones in the Bible, from the previous post that you also ignored.

Please read it this time.

"Osama says "...the Kaaba, which I've already shown in the link above that it is fully supported in the Bible,.."

I asked you to show me ONE SURAH from the Koran, that "fully supports" your stone veneration, but of course you cannot so you try to use the Bible to do so. Unfortunately for you, it DOES NOT look so great for you. Muslims will stop at nothing short of absurd to make Islam relevant, but it fails by every standard in the Bible, just like your attempt to show Mohammed in the Bible.... He is not there.

You bring up Genesis 28:18 to support your claim. This is ludicrous, on many levels.

First, God DID NOT GIVE JACOB the stone, so it was clearly not "heaven sent", or holy by any means. This stone was merely one that Jacob used as a pillow, and then later anointed it as a pillar stone, when he named the place 'Bethel'.

Secondly, Jacob did not at any point in time after that go back and venerate the pillar stone, like Muslims shamelessly do the Kaaba stone.

Jacob did not assemble his brethren and set up a point where they could come and do dizzy spells around the rock.

Jacob knew full well that no lifeless object deserved any form of veneration or adoration as it would be in violation to YHWH Himself.

So you trying to justify Islam's idol veneration using irrelevant passages from the Bible is a pathetic attempt and does not serve the purpose that you were hoping it would. On the contrary it makes your claim empty, and you look desperate."

Osama Abdallah said...

@Christian Albanian... Thank you very much. I appreciate you standing out to the Truth, brother.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Abigail Gladwell said...

Osama, just a thought, if you could simply "turn the cheek" when you feel someone slanderizes you, I think the "hot" topic would quickly fade. Accusations are nothing but whispers in cyberspace.

Point to the administrators here, Osama spends way to much time trolling your blog and cyber boxing to care about sending viruses via email. I mean, David, have you actually ever navigated his website? Do you honestly think the author of answering-christianity spends his time plaguing your email? He plays cat and mouse right here... My eyelids roll dramatically every time I see him post. Like give it a rest already... This thread will never die simply bc he'll never stop swatting at the flies that nag him... Its quite comical.

Jericho Fallen said...

@Osama

Wow you're more delusional than first thought. Are you for real pagan muslim?

How can any SANE person ever claim that the bible approves your pagan practice of going round the kabbah in circles. I nearly died laughing at your lame justification using the instruction given SOLELY to Joshua to bring down the walls of Jericho.

In Joshua chapter 6 the walls came crushing down when Joshua and his ARMY marched around Jericho seven times. Now pagan muslim if this is your supposed justification then you clearly missed the fact that those seven times brought down the walls of Jericho. If the bible approves of the supposed tawaf in the same sense that Joshua went around Jericho then your kabbah would've have lied in ruins ages ago.

This is an absolutely weak and lame justification from you muslim. But then again if you follow islam than you've probably resigned your common sense and basic morals altogether

This "defence" of the muslim pagan rituals come from his website on the following link.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/tawaaf_around_kaaba_supported_in_bible.htm

So NO pagan the bible does not support your pagan ritual of tawaaf

In Christ, by Christ, for Christ

Anthony Rogers said...

Abigail,

The only problem with your theory is the facts, which I have documented above. The fact that Osama trolls this blog so much is hardly an indicator that he would not do such a thing, especially when it flies in the face of the fact that he HAS done such things.

jay shawn said...

There is no love in islam. Just a lot of love NOTS. Give it up osama. Stop making islam and your prophet out to be what its not.

Abu Nasir said...

Anthony dont blame Osama for these viruses its not his fault. Its actually the jews that are behind this. They found out that Osama is onto their conspiracies and they decided to shut him down before he exposes them some more. I mean he uncovered the secrets of Bin Laden, Abu Bakr and all of the muslim terrorist organizations for what they are "jews" and they need to keep him quite before it spreads. and according to Osama this type of conspiracy makes sense since he said "jews being jews" they for sure would do something like this.

Perhaps Osama can invent a jew spam app so that something like this would never happen again.

jay shawn said...

I would love to have osama as a brother in christ though. Be free from living like a slave and the hatred of kafirs islam instills in you.

Assyria_Lost said...

@Osama

For someone who keeps bragging about his computing credentials, the esthetics of your website doesn't impress, it feels so retro, and why are you still using pre-historic html? the 90's are over mate.

TPaul said...

Osama, I hope you have read my responses to your fallacious arguments.
Let me now address your red herrings one at a time.

"1- Despising to Arabs."

Absolute rubbish! How did you come to that conclusion? The Arab culture is rich and it predates Islam.... Islam is what is despicable, not the Arabs.

"2- Very closed minded towards Islam."
More nonsense, I am totally honest about what Islam teaches, but brain dead Muslims like you do not like to hear the truth. In fact you are the ones who are closed minded about Islam's evil ideology.

"3- Taught that Islam is your faith's #1 enemy, "

Are you blind? Look every where in the world the number one persecuted people are Christians and the ones doing the persecutions are Muslims. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure which evil religion is insecure enough to kill people in order to be dominant.
"...when in actuality Islam is the completion of your faith."
Are you out of your mind dude? How does beheading your enemies " complete " loving, forgiving and praying for them? Man you sure live in a twisted frame of mind.

"4- Taught that Islam is a pagan religion, "
No one has to be taught to know that Islam is a pagan religion. It is obvious...... Islamic sources point to it's pagan continuation in a guise of monotheism. 1.6 billion Muslims are following the deceptions of one devious pagan con artist. "...Rituals are 100% supported in the Bible...."
Bloody lies. The bible is 100% against idol worship and veneration that is part of Islam's religious rituals.

"5- You're holding on to dear life to the false beliefs..." I could say the same to you but if you had even four brain cells you would be able to decipher it yourself.

So Osama, get a grip and leave this pagan idol worshipping that Mohammed concocted to sit his own evil purposes and desires

Glory Apologetics said...

@Osama..

Your last debate with david wood... Amazing brother. Why are u still a muslim apologist? One should learn from you how to troll and behave like kids.

Your response over this issue gave me a good laugh and by the way your articles on your website gives me good laugh when m down sometimes. :p

Peter said...

Guys, please stop this meaningless discussion. Osama might have had a history of bad behaviour, but that does not mean that a dozen of people should mock him relentlessly.

And yes, some of the comments here are pure mockery.

Who knows, you might all be right about Osama. Personally I find it hard to believe that he would distribute a virus on purpose. But either way it is not fair to carpet bomb this man with all kinds of allegations, most of which have nothing to do with the scam/virus email sent from his email adress.

To witness this dicussion thread is like witnessing one of those bad debates that turns into a series of ad hominem attacks. Only here there are 10 debaters against 1.

It is not a pretty sight and some of you (read you own comments and you'll know) ought to apologize to Osama.

Osama Abdallah said...

Anthony,

In case your haven't noticed, just about everyone in this thread is telling you:
"Hey stupid, Osama is innocent". Some have directly stood up straight against you; some have apologized to me; some have asked me to turn the other cheek; and some have tried to give you a way out by telling you that you're wrong, but tried to make it in a mocking way, such as Osama didn't send it, and it was the Zionists who sent it on behalf of Osama.

Just about every single person here has recognized that you're false. And here is a challenge that will shut your silly mouth up once and for all:

1- You claim that I have sent you many virus emails.

2- I therefore have the right, as the accused, to have the evidence laid out for me to see.

3- So Anthony Rogers, if you're not a liar, then you will publish several of those emails for all to see. I demand at least 5 from you.

4- Should you decide to intentionally fail this demand (and I do see it coming), then you would then have admitted here before everyone that you are indeed full of BS.

************ What's worse is that you know very well that you're full of BS. That's the hilarious part about it. Some people are full of nonsense out of ignorance. But some are full of BS out of their deceitful nature.

So Antho (not a typo), I am waiting for your smoking gun evidence. Like they say either put up or shut up! I want everyone to read those emails and to see what a ludicrous trash you are. I am in your blog COWBOY and I am issuing you this challenge, which I know you'll be too much of a coward to meet.

So COWBOY, what's your say?

Osama Abdallah

Foolster41 said...

"; and some have tried to give you a way out by telling you that you're wrong, but tried to make it in a mocking way, such as Osama didn't send it, and it was the Zionists who sent it on behalf of Osama."
Ha, that's right, it was a way out, and totally not making fun of rediculous conspiracy theories by Osama!

@Osama, Since you're calling people cowards, when are you going to answer my questions above or admit you were wrong?

1.How did this swapping with "Jesus"
Barabus work? Did Barabus tell John to take care of "his" mother? Are you claiming that Barabus was the one the bible is talking about all along? Neither of scenarios make much sense. If there was a switch, which Jesus showed their wounds? Was this also faked? Why?

2.Not a questtion, but please admit you were wrong about "I think" in 1 Cor 7:40. (http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/7-40.htm)

3.Back up your claim that Paul was called a liar. You seem to gave 3 entire chapters (1 Cor 1,2 and 3) in the debate, and I can't find anything in there that backs this claim.

You claimed that Paul's disagreement with Peter proves Paul false, but this fails on a few levels:
1.The disagreement is not depicted as being within the scriptures (i.e. Paul and Peter in their writings do not contradict each other). That they disagreed at one point does not equal contradiction.
2.It is logically inconsistant. Mohammad is depicted as disagreeing with the doctrine of other Muslims, so does that make the Quouran and Mohammad false?
3.It is also logically inconsistant because you are saying the NT is wrong in some places, but are also calling on it as a witness to Islam, without giving any clear indicator of what is "corrupted" and what is not, besides the circular logic of rejecting what contradicts Islam and accepting everything that agrees with it.

Come on, "cowboy".

Abu Nasir said...

Poor Osama and all of the muslims out there always falling victims to the jews.

Hey Osama why do you guys always get outsmarted by the jews when your Quran claims your the best of people? surely the best of Allah's people cannot fall into such nonsense but it seems the jews have been kicking your butts for a long time now.

Esiar said...

@Osama Abdallah

"BS"

"you filthy coward"

"you yahoo"

"stupid and desperate low-life moron, Anthony Rogers"

Why should I trust what you are saying if you can't hold your tongue?

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain"

aaron said...

@foolster

I think you forgot what he did with
1 Corinthians 5:5 a while back claiming it was a order to kill

Davy Jones said...

Esiar..I want to thank you very much for pointing out my mistakes..I am guilty of that a lot all the time.

Point taken and thank you again.

jay shawn said...

Osama, your boys are out there in paris not following the sayings of prophet isa, which going by the happnenings in dawah, claim to love and respect him more than those shirk committing christians do. Maybe 'turn the other cheek' and the beatitudes were innovations by paul, the man you love to hate. Think real hard why you are a muslim and realize that Christ's arms are open to anyone.

TheTru North said...

Hey all, I think we should all show love to Osama. I think deep down he knows what the truth is. I believe with my whole heart that Osama will make an excellent Christian. Osama, perhaps you should stop caring about what others think, and lead with your heart. Christ can make your heart change. I pray you see the truth. I will pray for you Osama.

Abigail Gladwell said...

@Anthony

I didn't mean that your evidence doesn't prove anything. I'm glad you've warned us so I don't open anything from him as I "try" reading his site quite a bit. Thanks! I'm just surprised the admins here don't just completely ignore him. He has no credibility so IMO I wouldn't waste my time on him... Shoot he saw my turn the other cheek comment and is still swinging his fists in cyberspace... Lol

Foolster41 said...

@Aaron: Oh yeah, I did. Good point. I'll stop pushing him because I know he'll never answer. He likes to pick and choose answers he thinks he can reply to well (though even then his answers are embarisngly bad). It looks like he's moved onto another thread to make his lies and unfounded assertions. It's questionable Osama will ever learn...

Jerry Jones said...

Reading Osama's comments above almost caused me to break the second commandment! How hilarious this guy is! It's because of him I could laugh hard after a whole lot of days.

Osama can't even differentiate mockeries and actual support. Why do you guys still debate him? You deserve to be doing something much better than wasting your time on him!

Jerry Jones said...

At this point, I must thank Osama for his amazing website. What a beautiful site he got there.

Whenever the world looks colorless and full of depressions, I visit Osama's website and see the amazing colors on his homepage. Those countless awesome shades of different marvellous colors...carefully chosen and placed by an intelligent computer scientist...and those comedian posts on that site which are much funnier than Rowan Atkinson's Mr. Bean episodes... I just go 'Wow!' They make the world a better place for me to live in.

TPaul said...

Be careful Jerry,
Satire is lost on Islam and it's adherents.
But knowing Osama, and the deep blue sea, he might just take those comments at face value and thank you.
Cherrio

Osama Abdallah said...

If an ant eats lots of honey, what do we call it?

Anthony! :) loooollllll

Anthony Rogers said...

A www, how sweet. ��

olafthe white said...

@Osama

I sincerely feel sorry for you. As a Muslim, you've been brainwashed/raised to be:

1- Despising to all non heterosexual,Muslim Males .

2- Very closed minded towards Facts.

3- Taught that Christianity/Judaism/Hinduism/Buddhism are your faith's enemy, when in actuality All these Religions Have better moral teachings than Islam

4- Taught that Christianity is a pagan religion, when in reality Islam is not only NOT pagan, but all of Islam's Rituals are Copied and pasted from Pagan,Jewish folklore and non-canonical books of the bible .

5- You're holding on to dear life to the False beliefs that were given to you about the Christians Falsely worshipping Jesus as god , when in reality none of that is true. Not only that, but I've shown you from the Bible that it is the Quran THAT HAS SACRED STONES, not Islam. Muhammad even Told all his followers to bow down to a black box 5 times or day or else you're go to hell.

Visit the links above. May Jesus Christ lead your heart to Christianity . Ameen

ann amann said...

@Osama Abdallah u are a rude, insultive and unrefined individual. But this is to be expected from devout Muslims such as yourself.