THE GUARDIAN--Interpol has been accused of abusing its powers after Saudi Arabia used the organisation's red notice system to get a journalist arrested in Malaysia for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.
Police in Kuala Lumpur said Hamza Kashgari, 23, was detained at the airport "following a request made to us by Interpol" the international police cooperation agency, on behalf of the Saudi authorities.
Kashgari, a newspaper columnist, fled Saudi Arabia after posting a tweet on the prophet's birthday that sparked more than 30,000 responses and several death threats. The posting, which was later deleted, read: "I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you and there is a lot I don't understand about you … I will not pray for you."
More than 13,000 people joined a Facebook page titled "The Saudi People Demand the Execution of Hamza Kashgari".
Clerics in Saudi Arabia called for him to be charged with apostasy, a religious offence punishable by death. Reports suggest that the Malaysian authorities intend to return him to his native country.
Kashgari's detention has triggered criticism by human rights groups of Malaysia's decision to arrest the journalist and of Interpol's cooperation in the process.
Jago Russell, the chief executive of the British charity Fair Trials International, which has campaigned against the blanket enforcement of Interpol red notices, said: "Interpol should be playing no part in Saudi Arabia's pursuit of Hamza Kashgari, however unwise his comments on Twitter.
"If an Interpol red notice is the reason for his arrest and detention it would be a serious abuse of this powerful international body that is supposed to respect basic human rights (including to peaceful free speech) and to be barred from any involvement in religious or political cases." (Read more.)
Friday, February 10, 2012
Saudis Use Interpol to Have Journalist Arrested for Criticizing Muhammad
This is horrifying. Interpol (International Criminal Police Organization) is a worldwide network of police departments established to help countries capture criminals who cross borders. Saudi Arabia recently used an Interpol alert to have Hamza Kashgari arrested in Malaysia, where he fled for his life after Saudis began calling for his death. By helping the Saudis capture Kashgari, Interpol has become an international Sharia enforcement unit. People who flee the Muslim world to escape punishment can now be rounded up by Interpol and returned to their countries to face Islamic penalties for apostasy, criticizing Muhammad, etc.
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Societal taboo. Jealous?
I would say its more then just Muslin apostates, hertics and blashemors that have to worry.
What about you David Wood, you travel over seas. What if the KSA goverment or the Pakistani government decided to put a FATWA on you becasue of yoru Blog and then red flaged you with interpole.
Or if I post somethig on Facebook like "Everybody draw a picture of Mohamed day" and decide to go to October Fest in Germany.
Don't think they will be serving the Weizenbier with Sauerbraten on that flight to KSA or Pakistan.
This is ver interesting! My brother is a muslim convert (Yusuf Alamo) and he recently commented to me:
"I see how important it is for you to maintain as much control as possible over others who don't necessarily share your ideas or maintain their constitutional right to peacefully and objectively criticize or disagree with you and your beliefs..."
When we host blogs or youtube channels, we can omitt offensive, harassing, or off-topic comments. Islam takes things much further! And yet, he wants to use this country's constitutional rights (given by YHWH) to islamize all over and then advocate for shariah! The evidence is clear that Islam tells people they cannot criticize Islam or else...
Good thing Jesus is in control. He has overcome this world and that includes Islam. Please pray that my brother find true peace and salvation in Jesus, the only one who can save him.
@Radical Moderate?
"What if the KSA goverment or the Pakistani government decided to put a FATWA on you becasue of yoru Blog and then red flaged you with interpole."
>>> Since when can an Interpol redflag a citizen of other nation?
It saddens me however, that Interpol was not wise to become the instrument of a fascist religion.
@D335
you wrote..
"Since when can an Interpol redflag a citizen of other nation? "
Since when can't they? And even if they can't now who says they can't or won't in the future.
Firstly, will media commentators FINALLY stop saying Malaysia is a "moderate" Muslim country? The government banned Muslims from going to the Black Eyed Peas concert in Kuala Lumpur because it was sponsored by Guinness beer:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/music/story/2009/08/27/malaysia-black-eyed-peas.html
And now they are helping Saudi Barbaria arrest someone for insulting Muhammad.
On another note, Valentine's Day, which the Saudi Barbarians have banned, is on Tuesday. We should be on the lookout for stories about the religious police arresting merchants selling red roses. It could happen...
"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
That tells how corrupt Interpol are ...
And more How Islam is evil ...
1. He should have gone somewhere not in the middle east or asia to get away from Saudi Arabia.
2. Does anyone STILL not believe that islam isn't the antichrist system the bible talked about? It seems like it to me that they could get interpol to track him down like that.
Deport him to be killed for saying " I will not pray for you". Great work Interpol.
No responsibility at all.
Nicky:
My condolences about your brother. Now here's a few things you can do about it. . . . If you haven't already, learn everything you can about islam. Everything. I recommend you start with "The Truth About Mohammad" by Robert Spencer. If you can't invest the money, then read "Prophet of Doom" online. New converts are frequently given an extremely sanitized version of the faith and then further islamised with more "revolutionary/radical" information over time. This process is described in a section of Coughlin's excellent treatise on islam, "To Our Great Detriment" which is available online. I believe your brother is currently at the point where the ground work is being laid toward greater radicalization, but he's not yet fully on board. If so, it may still be possible to shock him out of it with stories about Asma Bint Marwan and Ka'ab, the torture of Katanna, the imprimature given to halal sex slavery (i.e. right hand possessions), the rape of Safiya, the implicit Quranic permission for prepubescent sex (Q65:4). . . . Read up so you can deliver a heavy dose of reality, but be careful not to come on too strong. Slip it into conversation, say, "gosh, I was reading the comment section of a story on CNN, and this commentor said these crazy things about islam and Mohammad that just CAN'T be true; that he had some lady and an old guy and some other poets assassinated? That he slept with a nine year old so now prepubescent sex is considered halal in islamic theocracies? I heard that he enslaved and raped married women? That the current author of the Saudi curriculum, Sheik Fawzan said that slavery is a part of islam and jihad? That Mohammd was a thief who raided caravans and attacked and murdered his neighbors?" At some point he may come up with the usual islamic apologetics (their responses are all pathetically similar), just be aware that ALL of these arguments (e.g. "All Mohammad's wars were defensive"; "you're only supposed to beat your wife with a tooth brush,"
"Aisha was really 16 and besides it was common back then" [true, but why are islamic theocracies doing it TODAY? Because the conduct of Mohammad is a primary source of islamic law so it's considered halal and legal under shariah]). The top information bar at the religionofpeace is one of the best available for responding to islamic obfuscations, (i.e. The "Myths of Mohammad and islam" sections are very concise and helpful). Good luck. (You may have already done all this - since I don't usually lurk over here, I don't really know your level of knowledge. It's just what came to mind when I read your comment.)
Malaysians told not to celebrate Valentine's Day:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/muslims-told-valentines-day-can-invoke-wrath-of-god
Derek,
Said" Deport him to be killed for saying " I will not pray for you". Great work Interpol. No responsibility at all"
Derek you should be cheering them on along with the little green men.
@ Withness
You know a lots of thing what happens in Malaysia.. Are you from Malaysia? How Christian life there?
Kangaroo, your sick if you see nothing wrong with putting arresting or putting a DEATH SENTENCE on a belief. I thought there's no compulsion?
Hmm, it seems preachers of moderiate Islam I meet keep eventually turning to supporting terrorism, Islamic fascism (Kangaroo, Kim) and/or anti-semetism (Osama)
@Pete,
Christian in Malaysia are still allowed to practice our faith. But with restrictions, such as no proselyting to Muslims, permit must be obtain to build churches, etc.
There were even call by some of the Muslims organisation to enact apostasy law to counter "Allah" issue, Muslims converting into Christianity, and lots more.
Christian issues are also politicized by certain politician to gain vote. Malaysia's general election is just around the corner.
Nowadays, all thing related to Christian in Malaysia is a sure 'hit'.
p/s: I'm not Witness, just feeling like responding.
In my Islamic "moderate" country of Indonesia, criticizing Muhammad will only get someone goes to jail maybe around 5 years at least.
And if anyone would ever criticize Jesus, Budha or even the president they will get no punishment at all.
@ Tiwas
Means that Malaysia Christian still free do they practice (maybe 1st stage of Jihad). I heard that Bible in Malay version also be an issue. Just that i dont know what is really happen about that..
Epiphyte
Yusuf Alamo was a commenter on this blog some time ago and knows those things you wrote about. Unless God does a thing in his life he will not see the deceit he is caught up in.
It seems the more disgusting aspects of Muhammad's life are brought up here the more Muslims try to defend him.
1 Cor.10: 14My friends, you must keep away from idols. 15I am speaking to you as people who have enough sense to know what I am talking about.
@Indonesia-man,
" In my Islamic "moderate" country of Indonesia, criticizing Muhammad will only get someone goes to jail maybe around 5 years at least. And if anyone would ever criticize Jesus, Budha or even the president they will get no punishment at all."
Wow...double standard and hypocrite !!! Quran say Prophet Mohammad is equal to Prophet Jesus and Moses.
@Nicky,
AMEN.. I pray for that.. We must prepare the persecution of Jesus's enemies no matter. Remember, This earth is not belong to Kingdom of God even us, so we belong to to the kingdom of God which is heaven
"Saudis Use Interpol to Have Journalist Arrested for Criticizing Muhammad
This is horrifying. Interpol (International Criminal Police Organization) is a worldwide network of police departments established to help countries capture criminals who cross borders."
RESPONSE:
LOL David! Are you horrified from getting arrested and shiped to Saudi Arabia for trial? :)
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
"2. Does anyone STILL not believe that islam isn't the antichrist system the bible talked about?"
RESPONSE:
I very seriously, sincerely, firmly and passionately believe that it is your man-invented Christianity, especially the modern-day Christianity that is the anti-Christ system; the slave of the ONE-EYED Zionist god.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
This is outrageous,horrifying ,scandlous I am pist off that I feel stupid to just wright a comment about it something has to be done,otherwise no one will be safe from thier supremasist racist practices
Interestingly enough, Interpol is headed by an individual named Ronald Noble who is a former, high ranking, U.S. Official:
"From 1993 until 1996 he was the Undersecretary for Enforcement of the United States Department of the Treasury, where he was in charge of the United States Secret Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, the Office of Foreign Assets Control, and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network."*
Now he is the head of Interpol whose mission it is to, in part:
"The role of Interpol is defined by the general provisions of its constitution.
Article 2 states that its role is to
To ensure and promote the widest possible mutual assistance between all criminal police authorities within the limits of the laws existing in the different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
To establish and develop all institutions likely to contribute effectively to the prevention and suppression of ordinary law crimes.
Article 3 states
It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character."*
Clearly then, for a highly placed United States official (past or present), turning one's back on the rule of law is completely natural. As natural as a United States' Attorney General heading up the largest gun-running organization in the world, ensuring a constant supply of guns to the Mexican drug cartels.
I would presume that, since Ron and Eric came up through the same ranks, they are well acquainted with each other - possibly exchanging notes regarding operational procedure.
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol
Since Interpol now involves itself in the practice of "Extraordinary Rendition", we should all examine this, internationally, illegal practice. Without a doubt, Interpol is now, officially, an international criminal organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
@ Epiphyte-
Thank you for your suggesstions. I have been studying up on Islam for some time now but you definitely mentioned resources I haven't read yet.
My brother is already so far deceived that he will twist his own Islamic sources to justify Islam. It will truly take a work of God to break him free, so I know prayer is my best weapon. Thank you for your encouragement.
@All
Last night I went on Paltalk into a Muslim room. I asked what was so bad about what this young man wrote, and I began to read his tweets. I was quickly red dotted and the female admin took the mic. She is westernized Muslima from England or Oz or NZed.
Anyway she said "He insulted the prophet I will not have that filth read in here I will not allow you to insult our prophet".
I asked what was the insult? she said "He said there are things he does not like about our prophet, that is a insult and he deserves to die" Said it matter of factly. All the other Muslims most who where westernized all agreed with her that he should be killed.
Then anohter Muslim got on the mic and said that "If he would of said the same things about Prophet Jesus he would be killed as well" this was a obvious lie. But even if it was true I told him "Please do not kill in the name of My God"
And that pretty much ended that conversation.
It was chilling to hear people so willing condem a man to death becasue he said "There are things I do not like about Mohamed"
@ PETE
No, I am not from Malaysia. But I read about these stories in the news quite frequently. I originally found out about the Black Eyed Peas story on the Huffington Post.
@ Osama Abdullah
I don't think David fears being sent to Saudia Arabia for his views. But that an international police force would arrest a man and send him back to a country where he is likely to be killed for an opinion is a scary thought. Police are supposed to enforce justice, not hinder it.
Osama,
Said: "I very seriously, sincerely, firmly and passionately believe that it is your man-invented Christianity, especially the modern-day Christianity that is the anti-Christ system; the slave of the ONE-EYED Zionist god."
Another great "argument" from Osama. Thanks to his great insights now I know truth is based on feelings.
I very seriously, sincerely, firmly and passionately believe that islam is false. Islam refuted that was easy.
Osama ab DULLah said, "I very seriously, sincerely, firmly and passionately believe that it is your man-invented Christianity, especially the modern-day Christianity that is the anti-Christ system; the slave of the ONE-EYED Zionist god."
Just like you sincerely believe the Jews ran planes into the twin towers on september 11th?
Just like you believe in your whorehouse in the sky?
Just like you sincerely believe Islam is a religion of peace when it's been on a rampant killing spree for the past 1400+ years amassing in over 270 million deaths of christians, buddists, hindus, jews, zoroastrians, etc?
Just like you believe you can challenge David Wood to debates, never show up, and think you can sway people to 'revert' to islam???
Sure. Okay.
I just have one question, If I say 'Piss on Muhammad's grave and every thing Islam represents', what should happen to me?
You notice we haven't had a flood of Muslims coming here to disavow the Islamic death penalty for blasphemy. How curious.
"I very seriously, sincerely, firmly and passionately believe that islam is false. Islam refuted that was easy (Hezekiah)."
Ouch! That must hurt. Took out another Osama, again. This website should be renamed SEAL team 6.
So Interpol is fingering islamic blasphemers now. Lovely stuff. Obviously Interpol stands up for human rights. Or does it?
Osama knows exactly what would happen to David if he went to Saudi Barbaria, and being arrested and deported would be the least of David's worries there, that is, if they know about the contents of his blog.
I wonder if Hamza will end up getting a quick, non-public trial and an even quicker trip to Chop-Chop square in Riyadh?
cornholio said, "I wonder if Hamza will end up getting a quick, non-public trial and an even quicker trip to Chop-Chop square in Riyadh?"
There's some hope for Hamza. Not much, but there's some hope.
Malasya doesn't have an extradite treaty with saudi arabia. They may cave to international pressure and keep him there.
It's not much. But it's hope.
Kangaroo,
Since you're commenting on the topic of criticizing Muhammad I'm wondering what, in your opinion, should happen to someone who says something like the following:
"Muhammad was ignorant because he believed the sun sets into murky water."
I have proof to back up that claim. Is it still considered an "insult" by Muslims if the criticism is true?
(P.S., I'm sure David is waiting eagerly for the list of early scholars to back up your claims and a number of us are still eagerly awaiting your response here.)
Call and/or write your elected representatives and demand that Interpol be declared a terrorist organization because of their assistance in hunting down people who are perceived to have insulted Muhammad AND (lest we forget) going against the terms of their charter which mandate NO religious interference.
Also request that Interpol be removed from United States' soil through whatever means necessary.
I just did and I feel much better now.
a old chinese story of the frog boasting in its well to a turtle that came from outside. you are the frog that have been living in the well too long and haven't been out into the wider society and stuck in your little corner of the muslim society in the west. thats where you get your unsupported zionest claims. Anyone with a high school level of scientific knowledge and university level understanding of economics know that your claims are most ridiculous.
here some advice get out of your well and learn about the wider world before making up such ridiculous claims
Great analogy, billy, great analogy.
Speak of the anti-semetic devil! It appears Osama also largely supports Islamic Supremiscism in the form of censorship against freedom of religion!
Also, Osama. I've already pointed out we have documents of the new testament from BEFORE MOHAMAMD WAS BORN, and the Quran claims to be a completion of Christianity. Thus to say Christianity is somehow "corrupted" or that "modern Christianity is somewhow different than 1st century Christianity is demonstratively false, and automiticly shows the Koran cannot be true. Of course, you have and will contenue to ignore this, since you really WANT to believe Islam is true, and not because you are an honest truth seeker.
NO NO NO! I can't believe this happening? Islamic nations are using the very structures instituted be this West for us to catch criminals irrespective of borders, is now being used to enforce Islamic law? This is so disgusting.
@Osama abdullah,
Hi, ever heard the saying: all ways lead to Rome? They control all the mystery religions, islam is one of the biggest. Look at your mosques, what does the moon symbolize? Thats right, mystery religion, evolutionism etc. Islam is man made. There are even evidences that the vatican created islam as their puppet.
Why cant muslims look objectively to their religion, you have a moon on every mosque! You bow down to a a ka'ba with a black stone in it! Look at all your silly rituals, sallallahoe alayhi wa salam. You are indeed a puppet to your master.
http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-deports-saudi-blogger-behind-prophet-mohammad-tweets-093049169.html
Looks like they deported him back to Saudi Arabia.
hey kango
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."
Update
I was speaking to a Saudi last night on PT. He said that the young man is now back in KSA awaiting trial.
I asked him what he said that was so bad. THe Sauid responded.
"he said that he was equal to the prophet, and that he would shake his hand and smile at him"
When I played a recording of another muslim saying "Darn Allah... Darn that Allah he takes away all my fun"
The Saudi responded "Yes thats bad but that does not deserve death, its not as bad as what was said about Mohamed."
I asked him "So you don't worship Mohamed"
He said no he does not worship mohamed.
So saying you are eqaual to mohamed and that you would shake Mohameds hand and smile at him deserves death but "Darn Allah" does not???????
@ Leo said, “Why cant muslims look objectively to their religion, you have a moon on every mosque!”
I would like to point out one observation I have made regarding what Leo is saying. It is true that every mosque in the world has a moon on top of it. Did any one ever noticed that this very holy symbol that sits on every mosque has been literally trampled under foot by American (Christians) when Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon. And guess what, astronauts have recited biblical verses on the moon.
If moon is so important and holy that it has to sit on top of each mosque, Allah’s prayer house, then why didn’t allah protect it by being trampled under foot by Kafirs. They might have even pee’d while on the moon. Now think about it, if the symbol of every mosque has been conquered and trampled under foot by Kafirs, then each mosque is technically conquered and trampled under foot by Karirs.
Now, Osama Abdallah is probably going to give his normal nonsense version of the lunar landings like everything else. He is probably going to claim that it is a hoax, or jews propaganda or CIA is behind this lie.
@SGM
Never thought of that, but indeed.. Americans 'claiming' the moon. Although I must admit I do have my doubts we ever visited the moon. There is a vid on youtube where Louis Armstrong refuses to swear with his hand on the Bible that he stood on the moon..
Osama abdullah believes as do most muslims, that christianity is some sort of a copy of the Horus cult 'n that kind of stuff. But I don't believe that. Jeshua was a jew, his disciples were jews they all spoke Hebrew, the language of the Tenach.
Christianity is a jewish religion, but, also for the whole world. There is also very good evidence that many of the books of the new testament were originally written in Hebrew. Christianity is not a Greek religion in origina but a jewish religion.
Peace
I agree that Louis Armstrong never walked on the moon. He sure could play the trumpet though! Check out his playing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YTS9jFB084
@Leo
Don't know if your a Muslim but perhaps you should look into it.
It does sound like a releigon that is perfect for you.
GO SATCHMO GO
David, that is a CLASSIC!
Hello Dolly!
I also have my doubts about Lance Armstrong ever walking on the moon.
Billy said, "I also have my doubts about Lance Armstrong ever walking on the moon."
As do I, but if given the chance to cycle across itI'm sure he probably would.
Damn it, that was silly of me.
Here is my lame excuse: I am not an American.
Hope you had a good laugh though ^^
Yes Leo, yes!:)))))
Please post more of those.
Thanks David. Now you got me playing those old classics, i.e: Moon River, All The Love In The World (not for Muhammad's enemies I should add).
Wow! Im surprised to see how self styled islamic apologist Osama Abdullah is standing tongue in cheek on this matter.
I wouldve expected a more elaborate response or atleast some sort of twisting of the truth.
Is he beginning to see the light?lol
I see he is still playing that broken old fiddle about the bible being man made without telling us where, when and how it happened.
Im sure he is aware that according to tabari 6:111 muhammed confessed to fabricating the quran.
Some brilliant muslim will now repond and say that tabari gave false information or was perhaps demon possessed(no pun intended)
Malaysia has OK'ed the deportation of Hamza back to islamonazi Saudi Barbaria:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/malaysia-defends-sending-twitter-blasphemer-to-almost-certain-death-in-saudi-arabia.html
He's a walking dead man.
Islam has absolutely no respect for life.
Muslims can easily murder or commit halaal suicide and sincerely believe killing kafirs earns them rewards from "allah".
What honour is their in strapping bombs to yourself and most disgustingly to your children as well for the sake of "allah".
The bible warns against you offering your children to moloch.
By now we shouldnt be surprised of this death cult. After all their "spiritual" leaders, non the wiser, propogates that muslims love death and kafirs loves life.
I for one will pray for this brother to be freed from satan's claws.
Its laughable that muslims will easily kill you if you dont believe that islam is a religion of peace, what a joke.
Yes islam, as a kafir I choose life, because Jesus is life and life abundantly.
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