Tuesday, July 6, 2010

An Open Message to Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad

*****Click here for a complete summary of our experience in Dearborn.*****

Welcome to Dearborn, the city where Muslims are free to assault Christians, where hate messages abound, where Christians are arrested for holding discussions on public streets, where police harass and bully Christians who try to distribute copies of the Gospel. Leading the charge for Sharia in Dearborn is Police Chief Ronald Haddad, who refuses to return our illegally seized video cameras. As of this posting, it's been two and a half weeks since Haddad's officers stole thousands of dollars worth of video equipment, and more than two weeks since he was informed that his actions were illegal. There's been no response from Haddad yet. Please help me publicize his campaign against the Constitution.

66 comments:

Slatsette said...

IF only the media were willing to pick up a story like this. No one in my town has heard of this on the news, or in a newspaper. Those who do know find it on a blog.

I doubt our media will ever have interest in portraying any rights infringed upon as long as they are Christian rights.

John 15:18 "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you

Shana said...

I have been keeping tabs on this issue via your blog, website and through speaking with Abdu Murray, with whom I attend church, who was also at the festival this year and last. I'm keeping my opinion on this matter to myself for now, but I am helping to spread the word. I am praying that God keeps you humble throughout this process and that justice will be served.

Your sister in the Lord,
Mrs. Shana Cormier

Lazaro Lopez said...

Good job brother David.
I hope you recieve this...
A little much on the sarcasm, I know that is criticism when you are in such a unjust situation.
"Sound speech, which CANNOT be condemned." Titus 2:
".....give an answer, with meekness and with fear." I Peter 3:
Praying for you all.
Lazaro Lopez

Bartimaeus said...

David

Right on! Right on! Right on! You came out with both guns blazing and hit a bull's eye. Hope you don't mind I am putting this ine on my blog. I also downloading this before the dhimmies at Youtube remove it.

I just for the record I saw what happened the cops were violating the rights of the Dearborn four. the ones were were threating people it was not David or Nabeel. Nabeel was having a peacful conversation when the cops arrested him. I WILL STATE THIS IN COURT BEFORE ANY MSGESTRATE.

yohannes said...

After this video, I have a feeling; those confiscated video cameras will appear outside David's apartment tomorrow morning.

GreekAsianPanda said...

Regarding the incident where some Christians were handing out the Gospel of John outside the festival: Is there not a law that says that you can't hand out material within five blocks of the festival? Weren't you breaking the law at that point? Why do you think it's so wrong that the police made you guys stop if it's the law? It didn't look like they were "harassing and bullying".

David Wood said...

GAP,

I'm shocked that you just said this. Yes, police made a rule saying we were not allowed to distribute materials within five blocks of the festival. (I said this in our video.) When we tried to distribute copies of the Gospel, we were not aware of this rule. When we were informed of the rule, we complied.

However, all of this is quite separate from whether the rule is fair or Constitutional. The Arab festival takes place on public property, and the area where we were going to hand out the Gospel was public property. The First Amendment is protected on public property.

It seems you're thinking, "Well, there's a rule, so what's the problem?" Do you really believe this? This wasn't a rule two years ago. It wasn't a rule until Muslims started complaining about Christians distributing tracts and DVDs at the festival. And are you okay with the five block rule? What if they say ten blocks? What if they declare that no Christians are allowed to distribute anything in Dearborn ever again? Would you still say, "Well, there's a rule, so what are you complaining about?"

Then there's your comment about bullying. Do you really think it was necessary to send eight police officers armed with clubs and Glocks to confront three Christians armed with copies of the Gospel of John? Couldn't one or two officers have approached them and said, "Sorry guys, you can't hand those out here"? Did they need to take us into custody? Did they need to confiscate our camera (I wasn't distributing anything)? How can you not see this as an intimidation tactic?

Do you really not see a problem here???

jem said...

I've been following the incident....and am leaning to the point of view that you guys were looking for trouble....there are other way to spread the good news....
i do it all the time.... if people dont want what your selling, giving, or sharing.....then you've done your job in the eyes of G-D..... "go and spread the "GOSPEL"....each according to his/her capacity...... that is what we will all be judged on..... not through confrontation...whether it be physical, verbal, or challenging to see whom is better.

David Wood said...

Hi Jem,

Is your conclusion based on evidence? If so, could you provide the evidence? If not, do you really think it's okay to criticize someone without evidence?

Thanks.

characterbuilder said...

Bro. David,

Please read how the godly Apostle Paul handled his arrest and mistreatment at the hands of Roman authorities.

You will discover some powerful insights that will help you understand how believers should respond when they are unjustly persecuted for sharing their faith.

Dear brother, don't take the way of the world. Mocking, snide remarks and veiled threats (I'll see you in court) are carnel weapons... this is the way of the world. But the weapons of our warfare are not carnel(see 2 Cor.10:3). Prayer, fasting, the Word of God, good works... these are God's weapons that defeat the enemy of our soul.

I challenge you brother to post another video calling on those who support you (like me) to pray for Chief Haddad and the other police officers envolved (see I Tim. 2:2).

This will demonstrate to an unbelieving world that we understand God has placed Chief Haddad in authority and he is a minister of God for our good(Rom 13:1-4).

My brother please apply this basic teaching of the Lord Jesus to your situation, "Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you." Luke 6: 28


Doug Myers

Modesto, CA

The Fat Man said...

GAP what does handing out pamphlets outside the festival grounds have to do with David and Crew being arrested? They were not arrested for handing out material outside the festival. That was the next day.

They were arrested for simply speaking to those that came up to them. So your point is mute.

I was with David and Sam this weekend at ISNA. And I can testify that they only spoke to those who came up to them. They were civil and polite. They were not caring signs or a bull horn... etc... All things I have seen others do for other reasons on the street.

As a mater of fact there was a preacher in the crowd who was deliberately being offensive. Sam and David separated themselves from that individual.

So your objection is a moot point since they were not handing out material either inside or outside the festival, they were only speaking to those that approached them, and video taping in plane site so ease dropping laws do not apply.

The Fat Man said...

David Great video well said, I am shocked and offended that they did that to sister Nageen, outraged is a better word.

I hope you get those video feeds.

Also I hope your lawyer approved that video, you are in a legal battle now you need to follow the advice of council.

You dont want to become a marked man anymore then you already are, as if that would be possible.

Oh BTW it was great hanging with you guys. I'm going through withdraws now :)

Letitia (The Damsel) said...

Is there no legal way to get the police to return your cameras immediately? A court order, maybe???

Steve said...

You're not a journalist. Just another guy with a camera looking for trouble. You don't get to call yourself a journalist just for publishing on a website.

GreekAsianPanda said...

I understand now. Thanks for clarifying, David.

David Wood said...

Steve said: "You're not a journalist. Just another guy with a camera looking for trouble. You don't get to call yourself a journalist just for publishing on a website."

I guess you missed the part about my TV show on ABN.

Eva said...

Where can we write to protest the illegal and ill-founded arrest of these christians. I am horrified at this news. We should assemble a massive protest in front of the Police Department and demand for Chief Haddad's resignation immediately!He framed these christians to justify incarceration. What kind of a chief is this. He is corrupt. This is America, not any Islamic country to practice Sharia Law. Who the hell does he think he is in this free country? I think it's time for America to stand up for freedom in this country. Let's raise our voices now or we'll be sorry tomorrow that we failed to do so.

David Wood said...

Doug,

I'm confused. You appeal to the Apostle Paul to show that I'm in the wrong, and you say that it's wrong of me to tell Chief Haddad that I'll be seeing him in court. What did Paul do when people were bringing false charges against him? He responded:

“I am standing before Caesar's tribunal, where I ought to be tried. To the Jews I have done no wrong, as you yourself know very well. If then I am a wrongdoer and have committed anything for which I deserve to die, I do not seek to escape death. But if there is nothing to their charges against me, no one can give me up to them. I appeal to Caesar." (Acts 25:10-12)

What did Paul say? In short, he said, "Do you really think you're going to get away with this? I'll see you in court."

And you refer to Paul's gracious treatment of the Romans who wronged him. I'm confused again. When the authorities beat Paul and Silas and threw them into prison, the authorities later gave them permission to leave. Paul responded: “They have beaten us publicly, uncondemned, men who are Roman citizens, and have thrown us into prison; and do they now throw us out secretly? No! Let them come themselves and take us out” (Acts 16:37). Why didn't Paul leave quietly, instead of making a scene and forcing the leaders to apologize?

My brother, please do not read modern Christian ways back into the Bible. Modern Christian ways just don't fit.

Bartimaeus said...

For those who think Davud and Nabeel should roll over and allow the Islamization of a festival or any event think again. Is tge city of Dearborn to be governed by Sharaih or the cibstittion. The question is what laws did the Dearborn Fiur violate? Why were not those who were threatening Nabeel arrested also if this was a breach of the peace? Please tell me. Si far from what I have seen those who are blaming the Dearborn Four for tis were not there. I was and I saw what happened.

Traeh said...

"See you in court Chief."

Can't wait to see that.

Traeh said...

Slatsette,
Fox did a brief and quite sympathetic interview with David Wood and his lawyer.

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otl700 said...

I am impressed by David Wood. He is not a ravenous, snarling, drooling bigot, but someone who asks the right questions in a respectful manner. Everyday our way of life and our ability to live peacefully in this world is being eroded. Unfortunately much of that erosion is being accomplished by our own government and our own citizens. Our constitution is being trampled by our government and its attempts at being "PC". When you say something like that many people explode in anger and resort to name calling e.g...racist and bigot. SO untrue! I have had and still have friends of every race and religion (including Muslims). I love and respect them all. We are ALL Gods children. I have voted for Democrats, the Republicans, and Independents and have been disappointed by them all. However when one groups attempts to gain dominance, and vies for preferential treatment above all others, then I do protest. As a native New Yorker, the bombing of the World Trade Center seemed like a nightmare straight from hell; but it did occur, we were attacked on our own soil and more lives were lost at Ground Zero then were lost at Pearl Harbor. Wouldn't Americans back in the late 1940's and early 1950's have vigorously protested a memorial to Japanese soldiers being placed at Pearl Harbor? Such an attempt would have been laughable. Yet New York City allows a mosque, and a large mosque at that to be erected in such close proximity to Ground Zero? We need to stop being politically correct, and start standing up for our rights. We must also vigorously protest when those rights are being trampled upon. I believe Benjamin Franklin said it best,..."God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

characterbuilder said...

Bro. David,

1. You set up a straw man. I never referred to Paul treating those who mistreated him graciously.

When he did defend himself he was confident and knew his rights as a Roman citizen... but he was not ARROGANT.

Nor did he taunt or mock his oppressors. Sadly this is the tone of your video.

2. You have ignored the other passages in my blog that refer to loving your enemy, praying, and doing good to those who persecute you.

Brother this is God's way. It will heap burning coals upon their head. They don't expect it. What they expect is a video that publically berates them.

3. Will you now post a video applying the clear teachings of the Lord Jesus and the Apostles to your situation.

Call on those of us who support you to pray, fast, and claim God's promises on your behalf. Ask us to intercede for you and the others involved that God will grant you His favor and wisdom.

In this I will joyfully and faithfully join you in prayer.

Doug

michelle said...

David,

Great job brother. You truly said it all in this video. Job well done. It couldn't have been more clear. You keep doing what your doing and don't let these condescending comments from satan get you down. You don't look for trouble...it definitely comes to you. They had no RIGHT to arrest you. Christians only are hated. If you just mention you are a Christian in a room full of people they will probably 9 times out of 10 look at you like you just murdered someone...lol but thats ok.

Jesus is worthy for us to go to the ends of the earth for... praise His Name...forever and ever amen.

Lazaro Lopez said...

I agree with the heart and spirit of what "CharacterBuilder" has to say to David and the others who were wrongly arrested. However, I will state for the record that, I WAS AN EYEWITNESS to what happened that Friday night and our brothers did nothing wrong! If need be I will testify in court to the truth of what happened. I too was hassled, harrassed, verbally insulted with vile language for two days as I preached with a Gospel banner....and I was in the designated area! Stay strong brothers and sister. We can all BE IN MUCH PRAYER that God will use this as He does to expose evil and call some to Salvation In Jesus! For His Name's Sake.

Anthony Rogers said...

"Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “You go first, for there are many of you. Choose one of the bulls, and prepare it and call on the name of your god. But do not set fire to the wood.” 26 So they prepared one of the bulls and placed it on the altar. Then they called on the name of Baal from morning until noontime, shouting, “O Baal, answer us!” But there was no reply of any kind. Then they danced, hobbling around the altar they had made. 27 About noontime Elijah began mocking them. “You’ll have to shout louder,” he scoffed, “for surely he is a god! Perhaps he is daydreaming, or is relieving himself. Or maybe he is away on a trip, or is asleep and needs to be wakened!” 28 So they shouted louder, and following their normal custom, they cut themselves with knives and swords until the blood gushed out. 29 They raved all afternoon until the time of the evening sacrifice, but still there was no sound, no reply, no response." (1 Kings 18, NLT)

"1Why are the nations in an uproar and the peoples devising a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers take counsel together against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying, 3"Let us tear their fetters apart and cast away their cords from us!" 4He who sits in the heavens laughs, the Lord scoffs at them. 5Then He will speak to them in His anger and terrify them in His fury, saying, 6"But as for Me, I have installed My King upon Zion, My holy mountain." (Psalm 2)

"31 At that time some Pharisees came to Jesus and said to him, "Leave this place and go somewhere else. Herod wants to kill you." 32 He replied, "Go tell that fox, 'I will drive out demons and heal people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.' 33 In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day--for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!" (Luke 13)

"11But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. 12I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!" (Galatians 5)

Anthony Rogers said...

"1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5"Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.' 8"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ. 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. 13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'

Anthony Rogers said...

19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it. 23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. 25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. 29"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers! 33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation. 37"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'" (Matthew 23)

Van Grungy said...

characterbuilder is a nihilist. One who has no clue about islam or our Christian history of resisting its relentless onslaught.

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"You're not a journalist. Just another guy with a camera looking for trouble. You don't get to call yourself a journalist just for publishing on a website."

This comment here is a regressive progressive. He probably spent $40,000 dollars for his journalism degree to be a future bobblehead on msnbc. Hemingway was a journalist before journalism school existed. I'm sure 'Steve' is quite happy about the FTC looking into regulating the journalists out there. Because Big Brother always tells the truth ;-). Ok bud.

Individual Independence is the Christian Spirit.

btw... I call this story major league journalism. And by your very elitist attitude, you must be an OIC operative.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/paradise_lost_why_the_left_lov.html
I'll just leave this here.

The Berean Search said...

David,

You are doing the right thing, both as a Gospel loving Christian and a freedom loving American.

Thank you David, Nabeel, Negeen, and Paul for defending my Constitutional rights. I really can't thank all of you enough.

Odo said...

The wicked plots against the upright and gnashes his teeth at him, but Yahweh only laughs at his efforts, knowing that his end is in sight. [Psa 37:12,13]

He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet. [Heb 10:12-13 NAS]



You have girded me with strength for the fight, bent down my assailants beneath me, [Psa 18:39]

and that is why I am glad of weaknesses, insults, constraints, persecutions and distress for Christ's sake. For it is when I am weak that I am strong. [2Co 12:10]

in times of honour or disgrace, blame or praise; taken for impostors and yet we are genuine! [2Co 6:8]

But anybody who tries to live in devotion to Christ is certain to be persecuted; [2Ti 3:12]

This comes from God, for you have been granted the privilege for Christ's sake not only of believing in him but of suffering for him as well; [Phi 1:29]



He trains my hands for battle, So that my arms can bend a bow of bronze [Psa 18:34 NAS]

With Yahweh on my side as my help, I gloat over my enemies. [Psa 118]

With Yahweh on my side I fear nothing; what can human beings do to me? [Psa 118]

Odo said...

For our struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

minoria said...

Hello David:
I have just posted a description and a link to your latest video on avraidire.eu and also in JIHADWATCH.ORG(it is the 9th comment in the article that begins "Hamas Top Dog...)

PLUS
I added a link to your video "Of mosques and men"(now MORE than 2 MILLION have seen it,in only 6 weeks!),a link also to "Sharia in the US"(almost 2 million views in 1 year),a link to Pamela Geller's online petition to stop the mosque near Ground Zero, plus more.

I am outraged at how Negeen was treated,it makes me sick, and your video is right on.I hope justice is done.

getrealman said...

a brief comment to those criticizing:

There seems to be some that feel that David is not acting Christlike with this video. The simple facts are his civil rights were violated. This is not a matter of how a Christian should behave with a personal attack or persecution. It's a matter of abiding by the law and requesting and demanding others abide by the law as well. What would you do if you were pulled over for speeding if you were truly going below the speed limit? Would you smile at the police officer and happily pay the penalty, or would you stand up for your legal rights? What would you do if someone stole your property and you knew who it was? Would you request legal action or simply smile and say, "no problem, that's okay... I will pray for you, thief."? I doubt it. This is no different.

David Wood said...

Van Grungy said: "characterbuilder is a nihilist"

No, he's a good guy. But we disagree on some things (and that's okay in Christianity).

minoria said...

ABOUT THE LATEST NEWS:

AFSHAN AZAD is a 22 year-old Muslim actress.She has starred in 4 HARRY POTTER movies as Padma.She lived with her family.

She has a boyfriend and a few days ago her FATHER and BROTHER tried to KILL her in the house.

SO?

It is news around the world.What they don't tell you(intentionally?ignorance?who knows)is that it is because her boyfriend is a HINDU.They also don't say (intentionally?)that it is a case of attempted HONOR KILLING.

They also don't say(ignorance?)that why they were angry was because in Islam,in the Koran a MUSLIM woman can NOT marry a NON-MUSLIM.

CNN SCANDAL

OCTAVIA NASR,the Senior Editor of Mideast Affairs of CNN recently praised SAYYED FADLALLAH,a Shiah cleric who died recently.

SO?
He frequently approved of killing Israeli civiliana,denied the Holocaust.

An uproar ensued but in her reply she does NOT apologize for her opinion.Hmmm.Why doesn't CNN fire her?
If a white or even non-white CNN reporter had praised a RACIST public figure he/she would have been fired quickly.So goes the world.

Tom said...

David,

Christians cannot condone demon possession. Dearborn appears to be very much possessed of an unclean spirit. Yet I see "well-intended" 'believers' here who seem to want to allow the demon-possession to fester.

Jesus of Nazareth didn't condone demon possession or disease or sin. He confronted them with all the power at His disposal. Where Jesus encountered disease, He cleansed those who sought His help. Dearborn does not appear to be interested in being healed of its revolting sickness.

Where Jesus met repentance, He forgave sin. I do not see repentance being demonstated on the part of Dearborn.

Where Jesus met arrogance, He rebuked that arrogance - just as the arrogance of Dearborn must be rebuked.

Where Jesus was welcomed, He brought hope and renewal. In Dearborn, there appears to be pitifully little interest in hope and renewal.

To me, there appears to be no judgementalism in what you have tried to do for Dearborn (righteous outrage, yes - judgementalism, no). Where I see the Judgment of the Lord God is in the disrespectful and dhimmified behavior of the public officials of Dearborn: it may be already too late to save that particular Gomorrah from fire and brimstone (the sword of Islam) but thank you for trying! God's judgement may already be on them. May God have mercy on us all!

The point I'm trying to make is that Jesus of Nazareth was and is VERY confrontational. He confronts my sin and calls me out of it. The Acts 17 Ministers - serving as Jesus' hands and feet and voice of love - did their best to gently call Dearborn out of its sin. Acts 17 was met with a response akin to the response from the men of Sodom.

Dearborn is currently either too intimidated or too self-satisfied to respond to the claim of Christ Jesus being made through Acts 17.
Kyrie Eleison! Christe Eleison! Let us all pray that it's not too late for Dearborn.

Where are the Congressional representatives? Where are our Senators? Where is the thundering from pulpits all over America? Thank you for NOT letting go of this! I know you didn't want this job but THANK YOU for answering the call of Christ Jesus who sends Christians to indentify and rebuke the demons that would make this existence a living hell.

Father in Heaven, we plead the Blood of Jesus over Dearborn, MI and over the Missionaries of Acts 17 who minister there. Father, enable us! Embolden us! Lord Jesus, in-DWELL us with Your Love and YOUR power. Have mercy on our complacency and on our lack of vision and on our lack of urgency. Deliver us, Precious Lord, from apathy and unwillingness. Thine be all glory, Beloved Heavenly Father! In the precious Name of our only hope, Christ Jesus - AMEN!

Matlin said...

Hi David,
How did the ISNA go, anything interesting happened?

Lydia McGrew said...

Great. Good defiance. Entirely warranted. About the statement, "See you in court, chief," when does the lawsuit get filed against Chief Haddad and the Dearborn PD for all of this, including seizing the cameras?

Mike said...

David, I don't know if you guys are innocent or guilty in this situation. As I've said before, I'm going to withhold judgement until al the facts come out, which will include release of the video tapes.

That being said, the people on here who are telling you not to be too mean, or to be loving, or to be gentle are full of it, in my opinion.

You are a human being. Human beings react harshly when they believe they have been treated unfairly, whether they truly have been unfairly or not. You are expressing your anger and dismay at a controversial situation. Did you come off as maybe a little obnoxious? Possibly, but I would have been the same way if I were in your situation. But you didn't use profanity or threaten Chief Haddad. Again, you're reacting as a normal human being would react in this situation.

One of the many reasons why I got fed up with the evangelical/fundamentalist Christian lifestyle was because you're told that in a lot of ways, acting like a human being is a sin. It started to drive me crazy.

To the people on here who saying David's reaction needs to be this or needs to be that. If you were in his position, whether you were guilty as charged or not, I'm willing to bet that you would be acting the same way. Are you really going to tell me you wouldn't?

Mike said...

Tom, give me a break, because everyone knows there are NO evangelical Christians in Dearborn.

Sodom and Gomorrah? Really? Sheesh.......

aussie christian said...

Minora,

You odviously get a different news service to me here in sunny Australia.

FYI: our news services did in fact carry the information that her brother and father were arrested for attempting to "honor" kill this lovely lass. they also did report that in fact they tried to kill her for dating a hindu, which according to the brother would have brought a massive amount of shame upon their family and an insult to islam, which he was simply trying to restore the honor of.

Firther to that information (as its probably not been reported where you are by the sounds), the brother was interviewed and stated that he regreted the situation because, "now whenever she goes to premiers or screenings of movies she wont be asked about the movie, she will be asked about the attack, which will show islam in a bad light".

Note please the only thing he was unhappy about is that islam will be exposed, not the fact that he and his father tried to assault her or kill her. tipical filth of islamic teachings.

Suggestion for you Minora, try logging into some Australian media services, I use yahoo7 myself as it seems to be pretty open on this. Also this week on "a current affair" which is a nightly programme they interviewed an islamist trying to distroy democracy in Australia, he was unable and refused to answer questions put to him by the interviewer, just kept up with no answer islamists retoric.

The Fat Man said...

Matlin said...
Hi David,
How did the ISNA go, anything interesting happened?

Here are some video's I took on my cell phone that I put on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MartyrMaker07

Andreas said...

Do people in the U.S.A need the permission of the subjects in their video/Audio productions in order to post them in any type of public media?

Andreas said...

If you are actually right, then why are you so afraid of comments that could show how wrong you are? The only reason that I could think of is if you have something to hide, something that could prove your point wrong. This is extremely one sided.

David Wood said...

Andreas said: "Do people in the U.S.A need the permission of the subjects in their video/Audio productions in order to post them in any type of public media?"

No.

Andreas said: "If you are actually right, then why are you so afraid of comments that could show how wrong you are? The only reason that I could think of is if you have something to hide, something that could prove your point wrong. This is extremely one sided."

Yes, we're obviously terrified of comments. That's why we've allowed dozens of them. In fact, we're so frightened of comments, I'm officially blocking you from making anymore ridiculous comments.

minoria said...

Hello Aussie:

Thank you for the tip.I am glad people are more honest down there.

Latest news is than OCTAVIA NASR was fired from CNN for praising a terrorist supporter.

She HAD HER CHANCE.In her reply she could have said she condemned the man in the strongest terms.She didn't.

Now Paul William's Blogging Theology is posting rather silly articles against David Wood from loonwatch(2 of them).

I know the site loonwatch.They censor info that goes against their arguments.They have censored me several times.(REALITY CHECK:they are secretly anti-human rights,it is easy to see).
All the same I sent a comment that RAUF the guy in charge of the Cordoba House,TWICE refused to condemn HAMAS.

SO?
I wrote that Hamas APPROVES of the killing of 3,000 people in 9/11.He is not sincere when he says it will honor the victims.Will the comment be posted?I doubt it.

I had posted a similar comment in the Spanish-language forum and it was rejected.

Fernando said...

David Wood said... «we disagree on some things (and that's okay in Christianity)»...

thankes, many thankes for these words I never expected to hear from you (I thought you were more like "Dr." James White and his position off "all who do not agree withe me ain't Christian"... and thates something I feel sorrow when I read his words)... I totally agree withe you...

M.C. said...

Wow! David, I don't know what to say. The story about the Nageen is unbelievable. What a shame. The BIBLE says : "Be ready to give an answer to those who ask for the hope that is within you." My fellow Christians - we are given a green light for apologetics. Don't think that just inviting someone to church will do the trick. We need to be able to know what we believe and share it with others. Simple! David, I hope you guys get your stuff soon. I can't believe this is happening in America. It's like something you'll only see in the movies.

Booko the Duku said...

continued:

#
# The troubles that these Acts 17 people have recently experienced at the Dearborn Arab festival are due to the city's reaction to the video Acts 17 posted on Youtube last year at this time, and the rather antagonistic way they conducted themselves while filming. That video, which was seen by millions of viewers, painted the city and the Muslim community in a very negative and UNTRUE light by distorting the facts and ignoring the activities of other Christians who freely do evangelism at the very same festival without trouble from the authorities, and also at many other places throughout the year. I am one of those other Christians. I have never had a problem like that. Ever.
# Thus, these Acts 17 people make it seem like they are being harassed and controlled by the police simply because "they are Christians" doing evangelism at a largely Muslim-attended festival in a part of the city where "shariah law" (Muslim law) is in force. This is simply not the case. If shariah laws were in place then no other Christians would be allowed to distribute evangelistic literature either. But there were and have been allowed for 14 years. Other Christian groups from the local community and from out-of-state were simultaneously distributing Christian literature from authorized booths in the Artisan tent, of which David Wood from Acts 17 made no mention whatsoever.
# A Christian person or group may wish to challenge attempts by authorities to curtail or prohibit open-air evangelism and literature distribution where they feel it is constitutionally protected. It may be true that the activities of Acts 17 protected as such. But in my opinion, the fact that the authorities have taken steps to control evangelism is not due to shariah law per se, but owing to the nature of those in authority to want to contain or eliminate evangelism of any nature. I believe that other Christian groups experience similar controls by the authorities at other festivals and public places throughout the nation where there is barely any Muslim presence at all. Jews for Jesus, for example, regularly experiences this kind of thing from the police wherever they do evangelism wherever they do it, because, in general, Americans don't like to be evangelized. So we American Christians who are intent on doing more "vigourous" forms of "public-square" evangelism should expect to encounter this kind of reaction anywhere and be willing to be arrested for the sake of the gospel. But we must not do evangelism in hopes of being arrested.

Booko the Duku said...

I ran across an excellent article from an evangelist that lives in Dearborn and has been evangelizing without incident there for over a decade. Obviously, his account is vastly different that of Acts 17, which is probably because he does actual evangelism and not just for a few seconds when he's on camera.

http://dearbornlegacyconference.org/articles.html

There is much interest in incidents at last month's Arab International Festival. Here is a brief excerpt from the opening paragraph of an online report which you can find in the first of the two following links:
Police accused of enforcing Islamic law at Dearborn Arab Festival: "Officers arrested four Christian missionaries and illegally confiscated their video cameras, which were recording the events surrounding their arrests."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=169577
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026594.php.

Commentary regarding the arrests of Acts 17 personnel at the Arab Festival.
I am a Christian American living in the Muslim community of Dearborn, MI. I go to the Arab festival almost every year to do evangelism and have a good time. This prayer alert and other reports egarding the arrests of Acts 17 staff present a misrepresentation of reality. The arrests are true, but like many things they require some perspective. Let me give you mine:

1. First, it seems to me that Americans who are not Christians practicing active public evangelism should not be concerned by this because it does not affect them. It should only concern Christians that practice evangelism and value the freedom to do so.
2. Having said that, these particular Christians from Acts 17 come from out-of-state and have a particular M.O. They have little regard for the Christians who live here year-round and who freely do evangelism in the Muslim community without any troubles of this nature whatsoever, such as myself.

Booko the Duku said...

Continued:

6. Therefore, it seems to me and others that Acts 17 wants to paint this distorted picture that Dearborn is under shariah law, when in fact, this is not the case. The tactics of Acts 17 have only served to attract this kind of negative attention to themselves so they can say, "See, shariah law is in force in America!" Thus, they have exacerbated the situation and have made things more difficult for other Christians doing authorized evangelism at the festival. Shariah law may well be taking root in some places in the West and America (and perhaps it is in Dearborn's future), but for the present time this is an unfair representation being propagated by those who would use evangelism as a weapon. In any case, I suspect that public evangelism will be outlawed by American secularists first.

Let us not be alarmed by these alarmist reports that bend the truth beyond recognition. S.R.C.


"If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all."
Romans 12:18

Booko the Duku said...

Continued:

The troubles that these Acts 17 people have recently experienced at the Dearborn Arab festival are due to the city's reaction to the video Acts 17 posted on Youtube last year at this time, and the rather antagonistic way they conducted themselves while filming. That video, which was seen by millions of viewers, painted the city and the Muslim community in a very negative and UNTRUE light by distorting the facts and ignoring the activities of other Christians who freely do evangelism at the very same festival without trouble from the authorities, and also at many other places throughout the year. I am one of those other Christians. I have never had a problem like that. Ever.

Thus, these Acts 17 people make it seem like they are being harassed and controlled by the police simply because "they are Christians" doing evangelism at a largely Muslim-attended festival in a part of the city where "shariah law" (Muslim law) is in force. This is simply not the case. If shariah laws were in place then no other Christians would be allowed to distribute evangelistic literature either. But there were and have been allowed for 14 years. Other Christian groups from the local community and from out-of-state were simultaneously distributing Christian literature from authorized booths in the Artisan tent, of which David Wood from Acts 17 made no mention whatsoever.

A Christian person or group may wish to challenge attempts by authorities to curtail or prohibit open-air evangelism and literature distribution where they feel it is constitutionally protected. It may be true that the activities of Acts 17 protected as such. But in my opinion, the fact that the authorities have taken steps to control evangelism is not due to shariah law per se, but owing to the nature of those in authority to want to contain or eliminate evangelism of any nature. I believe that other Christian groups experience similar controls by the authorities at other festivals and public places throughout the nation where there is barely any Muslim presence at all. Jews for Jesus, for example, regularly experiences this kind of thing from the police wherever they do evangelism wherever they do it, because, in general, Americans don't like to be evangelized. So we American Christians who are intent on doing more "vigourous" forms of "public-square" evangelism should expect to encounter this kind of reaction anywhere and be willing to be arrested for the sake of the gospel. But we must not do evangelism in hopes of being arrested.

Booko the Duku said...

I also wonder if David Wood ever plans to mention that a local Christian evangelist has two sons who work are officers with the Dearborn police department(yes, Sharia law, please)

Or the fact that dozens of other people were handing out gospel tracts and openly evangelizing at the festival without incident.

I doubt it, then he couldn't use this to raise his profile and money for Acts 17.

The truth sure can be annoying sometimes, it seems.

characterbuilder said...

Van Grungy said, "characterbuilder is a nihilist. One who has no clue about islam or our Christian history of resisting its relentless onslaught."

Van Grungy,

Instead of attacking me personally... why don't you try answering the comments on my blogs.

Doug

LouisJ-B said...

"Dr." James White and his position off "all who do not agree withe me ain't Christian"... and thates something I feel sorrow when I read his words)...

If reading *Dr.* White causes you sorrow, you might want to try listening to the reasons he gives for his beliefs & apologetics.It might cheer you up.;-)

David Wood said...

Fernando said: "I thought you were more like 'Dr.' James White and his position off 'all who do not agree withe me ain't Christian.'"

Fernando, I don't think this is an accurate representation of James White. True, James wouldn't regard, say, Mormons as Christians (and neither would I), but he doesn't regard everyone who disagrees with him as non-Christian. For instance, even though James disagrees with Arminians, he considers them brothers in Christ. In other words, there's a big difference between "Person X is wrong on issue Y" and "Person X is not a Christian."

Justin said...

what you need to do if you haven't all ready is file a freedom of information act request for the security footage and you cameras and all that footage that will either force them to give you the footage or make them look really bad when they refuse

Precisely said...

I would prefer not to be slaughtered by Muslims. However, more importantly, I wish to stand before the Lord Jesus as uncompromising concerning the truth. Haddad and Pilate are cut from the same cloth. I appreciate Nonie Darwish, and I see Sharia as a curse. Why should I respect Haddad as he carries out the Devil's work?

The Berean Search said...

"I also wonder if David Wood ever plans to mention that a local Christian evangelist has two sons who work are officers with the Dearborn police department(yes, Sharia law, please)"

Booku,

It doesn't matter if every single officer in Dearborn is the son of a Christian evangelist. That would not prevent the police chief from giving orders that line up with Sharia, and wouldn't prevent officers from acting as a quasi "Sharia task force".

"Or the fact that dozens of other people were handing out gospel tracts and openly evangelizing at the festival without incident."

Again, this is irrelevant. Four Christians arrested, and four citizens having their Constitutional right violated is four to many. These are really empty and illogical assertions you are making.

"I doubt it, then he couldn't use this to raise his profile and money for Acts 17."

Can you please direct us to your proof that these are the motives of Acts17? I hope you are relying on something better than your mind reading skills for this claim....

Fisher said...

I hope the video footage that was confiscated gets released soon. That would hopefully show how all the accusations being hurled against you four are patently false, and how all of this is just a concerted attempt to keep the Gospel out of Dearborn.

Also, hearing how Negeen was treated by the police officers is simply disgusting. You do NOT force an 18 year old girl to strip in front of several adult male police officers and make crass remarks about her looks. Those thugs need to be punished for what they did.

Fernando said...

Hi David... well... we desagree thate we desagree in this point about "Dr." Oackley because I, more and more, feel he does not behave in the way you portraite him... butt the problem can be in my eyes and hears... blessings and keep the heart open to show the World whate is the Christian faithe due too God's unlimited love...

hawkins said...

I have watched all the videos and read all the articles on this story. I have also read the Dearborn Police Chief's statement. Now I ask What Did You Expect? Did you notice you were in the police chief HADDAD's area. Did you really think he was going to be neutral? You were not in the wrong you accepted a phamplet not pass any out. It's a no win situation unless the court stands firm to the law and the constitution.

mattsmoski said...

I have respect for you and for what you are doing. Standing up for Liberty and Freedom which was paid for by the lives of the Revolution. Shameful what the police did. What will this country be like if we don't stand up now. Don't forget to pray for these Muslims and Police. Leave no room for satan to grap hold.

Lucy C said...

Thank you for your courage to stand against this tyrannical religion and the fact that the chief of police is following Sharia Law in our country, should be terrifying every single feminist, gay, and every single non-muslim in the country!