DETROIT — Three suburban Detroit Muslim worship centres plan to hold a total of six services to mourn the loss of one of Shiite Islam's highest authorities.
Services will be held nightly from Tuesday through Sunday for the Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah. The 75-year-old cleric died Sunday in Lebanon after a long illness and was buried Tuesday.
The Detroit-area services will rotate among the Islamic Institute of Knowledge in Dearborn, Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights and Islamic Center of America in Dearborn.
Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi of the Islamic House of Wisdom says it's important to include several mosques because Fadlallah preached unity among people.
The Detroit area has a large population of Arabs and Muslims. Many trace their roots to Lebanon. Source.
I have an idea. Since there are so many radical Muslims in Dearborn, and since so many of them want to see the U.S. destroyed, perhaps we should let them pull the strings of the Dearborn Police Department. That way, Christians are sure to get fair treatment.
WOW! When was the last time that we Christians mourned the death of our Christian terrorists???
O! Wait! we never had a Christian terrorist. O! what a pity! If you are a follower of Christ you can't be a terrorist, but if your a follower of Satan than why not? After all what did Jesus say Satan is: Father of lies, Murderer, wicked, evil, and doomed!
And islam fits perfectly into each one of those words. You know i'm reminded of a verse in the Bible where Jesus says, there will come a time when anyone who kills you will think he's offering God a service, John 16:2. Whoa!is that islam or what! and Jesus said this 700 yrs before mohammed came!
Well, that man is burning in hell, with his satan god, whom he thought was the true god. pity! just pity! Now that he is dead i can only pray for those who are alive.
"I have an idea. Since there are so many radical Muslims in Dearborn, and since so many of them want to see the U.S. destroyed, perhaps we should let them pull the strings of the Dearborn Police Department. That way, Christians are sure to get fair treatment."
Who says they aren't already?
"The Detroit area has a large population of Arabs and Muslims. Many trace their roots to Lebanon."
Muslims in Lebanon persecuted Christians there and drove many of them out of their own country. I wonder how many Muslims currently living in Dearborn took part in or supported those actions? I wonder how many of them would like to repeat that pattern in the state of Michigan, right here in the U.S.A.? I also wonder how many active members of Hizbullah are quietly matriculating in the Dearborn community.
There is French-language Muslim website,probably the most popular(I haven't found any other to compare with it in French)called oumma.com.
On JULY 5 they had article about the death of SAYED FADLALLAH:
They practice deception in the article.It says:
"Cependant, même si Cheikh Fadlallah est considéré comme étant le chef spirituel du Hezbollah, il a condamné le terrorisme, en particulier les attentats du 11 septembre 2001 et la décapitation de Nick Berg. Alors que le Hezbollah entame ses premiers attentats-suicides en 1983, Fadlallah s’est également opposé, levant des objections juridiques et affirmant que l’islam interdit à ses membres de se suicider."
First of all,in the whole article they say NOTHING that he denied the HOLOCAUST.Then:
"All the same,even though Sheikh Fadlallah was considered the spiritual chief of HIZBULLAH,he CODEMNED TERRORISM,particularly the September 11,2001 attacks and the beheading of NICK BERG.
(NOTE:I can neither affirm or deny the 9/11 and Nick Berg detail but he CERTAINLY praised and approved the killing of Israeli citizens.)
"Thus when HIZBULLAH began its first suicide attacks in 1983,Fadlallah was EQUALLY OPPOSED,raising judicial objections and saying Islam forbids its members to commit suicide."
THAT is NOT what reliable sources tell us.So goes the world.
My apologies to Mr. David Wood and his team for the harsh comments that I said about him. Deep inside myself, I believe he is a sincere man. Sure we strongly disagree on our creeds, but he nonetheless, remains a sincere man. David Wood is a man that I respect.
As to brother Fadlallah, he was a freedom fighter and not a terrorist. The Western colonizers call their oppositions as terrorists. Nelson Mendalla, a Christian, was imprisoned for 27 years by George Bush senior, who then was the CIA Director.
Mandella is a communist
As to brother Fadlallah, he was a freedom fighter and not a terrorist.
freedom does not exist as a concept under sharia
I am surprised Osama thinks highly of a Hamas supporter.We have a different point of view from MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF,the SON of one of the 7 FOUNDERS of Hamas.
He saved hundreds of lives by giving info on Hamas terrorist activities to Israeli intelligence for 10 years.He wrote a book called SON OF HAMAS.
Recently the US GOVERNMENT was trying to deport him,to deny him political asylum.But then,very quickly the judge in 15 minutes granted it to him.But the danger was real.His BLOG,and he writes well,a real writer,is:
HERE SOME OF HIS ARTICLES:
A)"Will Palestinian Statehood bring Peace?"(APRIL article)
B)"Shin Bet handler Confirms Son of Hamas Account"(it is the second article for the month of MAY)
C)"Hamas Scores Deadly Public Relations Victory"(JUNE article):
About the "Peace Flotilla"Incident:
D)"Political Asylum Granted!"(JULY article)
DAVID,NEGEEN,NABEEL and PAUL,I pray and I am certain that justice will prevail in the ridiculous trial(yeah,right,disrupting the peace).
It shows Haddad is desperate.Talk about corruption.
Osama Abdullah said...
"Nelson Mendalla, a Christian, was imprisoned for 27 years by George Bush senior, who then was the CIA Director."
How the... What the... where do you get...
It was bound to happen. Only a matter of time. I have said it many times Islam is like Crack, it rots your brain.
Osama put down the quran pipe.
I am surprised Osama thinks highly of a Hamas supporter.
Small correction, the man we are talking about was the spiritual leader of HEZBULLAH. Hamas is another organization.
I know it's hard to keep track of all the terrorist I mean charitable or political organizations that muslims support.
But Hamas was funded and helped along by the Israeli government as a counter weight against Hezbullah.
The Israeli's really shot themselves in the foot on that one.
Just like the Jews during early Islam, who helped Islam along as a counter weight against the Christians, in the hope that the Muslims would be like Cyrus the great and return them to Israel.
You see Islam or at least early Islam was fostered and helped along by Zionist JEWS.
Osma the Great Abdullah
Nelson Mendella was convicted in SOUTH AFRICA which is not the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA in 1962 on charges of sabatage.
George Bush Sr served as head of the CIA from 1976 - 1979 for only 357 days.
I guess papa Bush did a lot in those 357 days. He got a hold of the CIA time machine, went back in time, arrested Nelson Mendella and convinced the South African Government of the time to charge him with Sabotage. Then used the time machine again to put Saddam Hussein in power... Oh I could go on and on with this one. But I will leave it at that.
OSAMA FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING DECENT PUT DOWN THE QURAN PIPE. DONT YOU SEE WHAT IT IS DOING TO YOU.
Osama your really taking all the fun out of making fun out of you
Wait a minute Fat Man...can you please explain something to me?
I completely agree with this statement: Just like the Jews during early Islam, who helped Islam along as a counter weight against the Christians
But I dont quite understand this statement: You see Islam or at least early Islam was fostered and helped along by Zionist JEWS.
There were Zionist Jews in the 7th century? What do you mean by 'early Islam'?
Odo thank you for you question. This is Islam and Judiasm's dirty little secret.
I have been reading a lot of history on early interaction between Nascent Islam and Christians.
From the Christian perspective they viewed the rise of Islam as Gods wrath on Heritics.
The Jews viewed Islam like the Persians and Cyrus the Great who returned the exiles back to Israel.
In every account I have read where Christians where interacting with a Islamic Governor or other representative there was always a "Learned Jew" who was a aid to the Governor.
So I have a theory that the Jews of the time, helped Islam becasue they saw it as a possible advantage to them to kick out the Roman Christians and return them to Israel.
Also I have always wondered where the Anti Semitic in the west came from. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
It seems that there was a reason for "Western Christian" anti semitic hatred of Jews in Europe.
Remember it was the Temple Jews who persecuted the early Christians, after that it was the Jews who blamed the Christians for anything that happened in Rome.
This is not a excuse for anti semitic I am just saying that the hatred did not happen in a vacuum.
More on Mosad Hasan Yousef:
Yousef gets political asylum, court ruled.
Yousef's book, 'Son of Hamas'
And Fat Man,
Odd... The one I came across was that the early Vatican brought up Islam so that they can be used to kick the Jews out of Jerusalem and then the Vatican can have the Holy land... only to have the Islam refuse to comply.
Thanks Fat Man.
I agree with everything you said, except this part: and return them to Israel.
There was no reason for a return; even though Palestine was administered by the Byzantines, the population was mostly Jewish. There is no element of exodus, return, central to Zionism.
So I have a theory that the Jews of the time, helped Islam becasue they saw it as a possible advantage to them to kick out the Roman Christians
I just want to give a historical example: After the Muslims took Persia at the battle of Qadisyyah and Syria at the battle of yarmuk, the Jews saw these victories as some sort of a 'sign' that the Messiah was about to appear and welcomed opposing forces into the Byzantine operated, but majorly Jewish Jerusalem (Moshe Gil, A History of Palestine, p.61-64). In 638, after a long siege, the patriarch Sophronius had to sadly surrender Jerusalem. I also think the Jewish population just thought it would be better under Muslim rule, which is ironic because when Umar stepped into Jerusalem he banned the Jews from entering it for a few years and let the Christians stay (as long as they paid their jizya of course).
There has always been a call to return. There were three revolts, the first in 66 AD led to a massive dispersion of the Jewish inhabitants. The Romans as Romans did depopulated the region through the use of Slavery and forced exile.
Then after the Third Revolt the position of the Jews remaning was sealed. They were forbiden by law from practicing any Jewish right. Torah and Jewish law were prohibited, Hadrian had the Torah Scroll burned on the ruins of the temple Mount. He also erected two statues, one of Jupiter and one of Himself in the temple sactuary.
It was also at this time that the province was renamed to Syria Philistine, there by doing what Iran and Hamas wish to do. Wipe Israel off the map.
After the first revolt and the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, Judaism foccus of worship had changed from the Temple to the Synogouges. So at the end of the third revolt those that remained were scattered to the four winds.
The Arab Jewish writings of the time of Mohamed and Nascent Islam, give the view that Mohamed was to be used to return the Jews to there own state and homeland.
Like your other nonsense you spout your belief is not backed up by anything historical.
Fat Man said...
"Like your other nonsense you spout your belief is not backed up by anything historical."
I was just stating what I came across. Wasn't even trying to start a debate. Need not be so condescending. *roll eyes*
Really makes me wonder about your relationship with God.
Thanks Fat Man. I have to read up on the Jewish revolts, especially the third one, and about the depopulation. I do know that after the Temples destruction by the Romans in 70AD a lot of Jews left Roman provinces but there was no mass expulsion as there had been in 587BC, and that it was mostly the Jewish aristocracy that suffered the effects. I dont know too much about the second major Jewish/Roman war or the Hadrianic persecutions (except that Hadrian persecuted the Christians and Jews) so im going to read up on those when I get a chance, and thanks for filling me in.
Also, something that makes complete sense is the spiritual return to rabbinic Judaism led by ben Zakkai after the temples destruction. A return to the Torah and the legal regulation laid out in it IS something central to Zionism. So I guess one can call those Jews Zionists, but im not sure how similar that would be to the state oriented Zionist movement which arose in the latter part of the 19th century. But then again, im not too sure what happened between the years 70-500, so I can't really comment on how the Jewish population regarded Jerusalem in that time period. my main focus of study in the past has been on western Europe between the years 500-1500 AD. If I have more questions I’ll ask. Thanks again.
Thank you for the correction,I don't know how I made such a mistake.Besides Hezbullah is Shiah,Hamas is Sunni.
As for Zack's comment about the Vatican,it was not meant to be antagonistic,it was just something he came upon,which he didn't say was true or false.
ABOUT CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
In the Muslim writings,and in that of the LEFTTISTS,they say those Christians who believe Israel shoul NOT give up the occupied territories are EVIL,they are going to be RESPONSIBLE for an ARMAGEDON,for a new HOLoCAUST of the Jews.
Nonsense,the ISRAELI governments are happy the Christian Zionists support them but they do NOT obey them like servants.
The ISRAELI LEADERS are SECULAR,pragmatic.
1.Under Barak they offered East Jerusalem and a total of 95% of the occupied area to Arafat,who refused.
2.In 2006 they left GAZA.
In other words they do NOT believe in keeping the occupied area because of the GENESIS promise.They act independently,they are not going to obey the ideology of the Christian Zionists.So the LEFTIST,Muslim ideas are CONTRARY to reality.
"As for Zack's comment about the Vatican,it was not meant to be antagonistic,it was just something he came upon,which he didn't say was true or false."
Thank you for understanding, minoria; unlike a particular someone who can't wait to jump on any chance to attack someone... be it friends or foes.
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