Saturday, January 10, 2015

Sunan Abu Dawud 4361 (Muhammad on Killing Critics of Islam)

Here's Sunan Abu Dawud 4361 (4348 in some editions), in English and Arabic, along with the rating (sahih). In this hadith, a man kills the mother of his children for speaking against Muhammad. Muhammad, in response, says that no one is to punish the man.

So when Muhammad's own companions killed critics of Islam, and Muhammad approved, why do politicians, the media, and Muslim groups keep insisting that killing critics has nothing to do with Islam?

20 comments:

Nojmul Huda said...

When would civilized people come to sense to say enough is enough, Quran is axis of all evils and let us ban Quran publication? No book can encourage killing other to protect its evil ideology. More than Five Billions people are non-Muslims. Muslims’ petro-dollars cannot buy freedom from freedom loving people of the world. Why should we fear Muslim countries to say the truth?

Thanks David revealing truth about Muhammad and his character to protect his fascist ideology in sixth century. He is the culprit of all present day’s killings by millions around the world in broad day light. Where should we hide our head with this shameless teaching of Quran?? It is better to die rather than to bow down to Muhammad’s fascist rule of sixth century.

Wish success Million March for FREEDOM in Paris.

bob morane said...

i'm writing this everywhere since wednesday.
None muslims answered ^^

bob morane said...

Don't forget this one :
L'imam At-Tirmidhî (2351,4/557) a dit : Le prophète a dit :" Malheur à celui qui invente une histoire pour faire rire les gens. Malheur à lui! Malheur à lui !" hadith hasan

translation : Woe to the one who says something which is false in order to make people laugh! Woe to him, woe to him!
i don't find it in sunnah.com

bob morane said...

i found it in sunnah abu dawud:
http://sunnah.com/abudawud/43/218

ediagbonya aiyudubie said...

Our leaders even knowing this fact will still continue their politically correct syndrome
May the lord jesus christ open their mind to see

Targaryen37 said...

Hi David. You should also take a look at the book, the sword against the one who insults the messenger, by Cheikh al Islam, ibn Taymmyah, that is precisely about this issue. In it he writes, "ANd there are a lot [of sayings] on the fact of killing the one who insults, before any agreement given by the imam, and this is [generally] a right reserved to the imam (the ruler), nontheless, the imam must be gracious towards the one who applied a compulsory sentence without his beforehand agreement"

Abigail Gladwell said...

Ah Osama Abdallah is silent... Would love to see his thoughts on this as to me it seems he's in a corner...

dj said...

I just read this in my local paper, and I had to repost it here:

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/jan/11/letter-islam-faith-condemns-terrorism/

Maybe David will rebut?

Dacritic said...

dj, I feel this website is rebuttal enough. Perhaps by asking David to rebut papers who publish these politically correct lies is a little too much, because there are so many of these papers everywhere around the world! What I do is just write to the editors of these publications, referring them to answeringmuslims or answering-islam, or any other website that exposes Islam for it really is. Normally these editors will not reply, but I don't care.

m s said...

I suspect the guy killed his wife for some other reason but knowing the narcissistic personality of Mohammed, he made the excuse that his wife "disparaged" Mohammed.

Brandon Katz said...

Just out of curiosity, how would you respond to the claim that this hadith can also be translated to say that it was not right to kill her for what she did?

David Wood said...

Who makes that claim, Brandon?

Brandon Katz said...

A Muslim friend who commented after I shared this hadith on my Facebook page

David Wood said...

There are a few things to bring up. (1) You can ask him why the Arabic translators at Darussalam publishers botched the translation. (2) You can ask him why Muslim scholars quote this passage to show that those who mock Muhammad should be killed. For instance, the scholars at Islam QA quote this passage to show that critics are to be killed: http://islamqa.info/en/22809. (3) You can quote the very next hadith, in which another woman is killed for mocking Muhammad. (4) You can share the Ibn Ishaq passages and ask him if those are all mistranslated too.

Brandon Katz said...

Thanks! I shared this with my friend, including several articles from answering-islam to supplement point #4. I'll be interested to hear what he has to say.

God bless

Laura said...

Hi, it's the first time I post a comment here.

I wonder about the second next hadith, which says: "I said: (I had said:) Permit me that I cut off his neck. He said: Would you do it if I ordered you? I said: Yes. He said: No, I swear by Allah, this is not allowed for any man after Muhammad."
So it seems that only Muhammad had the right to kill anyone insulting him, doesn't it? Or are there other hadiths that say otherwise?

(By the way I'm not a muslim and I usually agree with what you and Robert Spencer say about islam. I'm just trying to be fair.)

David Wood said...

Laura, there have been some Muslim scholars who viewed that hadith in that manner, but that's not what it means.

Someone insulted Abu Bakr, and a Muslim wanted to kill the man for insulting Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr said that killing someone for an insult doesn't apply to anyone after Muhammad. In other words, the death penalty doesn't apply for insulting someone who comes after Muhammad (e.g., the rightly-guided caliphs).

Laura said...

On second thought, you're right, it doesn't say specifically that the guy insulted Muhammad. I was misled by the title of the chapter.
Darn. I like to play devil's advocate, and I'm really hoping to vindicate islam from an unfair accusation someday, but it's so hard...

Tom said...

@Laura

:)
you have taken on an impossible task!

Ricky Kid said...

@ David Wood
The page: http://islamqa.info/en/22809, is no longer available, but I managed to save screenshots on my smartphone before it was made offline. LOL.