Friday, September 12, 2014

Bill Maher vs. Charlie Rose on Islam, Christianity, and Violence

I don't agree with Bill Maher on many issues. I think he is often embarrassingly superficial in his discussion of religious topics (in his defense, he's a comedian by profession, not a scholar). But for some reason, he's one of the only mainstream liberals who notices the vast difference between Islam and other religions.


TPaul said...

Wow! The comedian obviously has more brains than the suck-up-to- Muslims, Rose. Hey Charlie boy ! Have you even read the Koran yet? How can you parrot corrupted politicians like Obama and Cameron about ISIS acts not being Islamic? Don't you think that before you do a show like this one, you should do some homework and actually read the damn book and then formulate an opinion? Instead of hiding behind those who have some very dangerous motives that include sacrificing of our freedoms to the barbaric islamists. It's not too late for America if people in the media are honest and courageous about revealing the ugly face of Islam.

Radical Moderate said...

LOL "Would you come and debate a moderate Muslim"...


Unknown said...

1) No Muslims can deny verses in Quran; they believe it is written by their Allah. Denying verses of Quran means denying Allah and his prophet Muhammad and punishable by death. ISIS, Paki, Nigerian, Somalia etc. all Muslims got authority to kill Christian by crucifixion and all other non-Muslims, like Hindu, Buddhists, Atheist etc., by their holy book Quran.

2) See Surah 9:29, Surat At-Tawbah, Sahih International

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”
Sura 5:33- “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment”.

All five billion non-Muslims people of the World should be in one voice to ban or modernized Quran and force Muslims to live with peace. Quran is power house of today’s conflicts: 1) fighting among Muslims in Middle East, 2) kidnaping 300 Muslims girls in Nigeria, 3) preventing women education by attempted murder of teenage Pakistani girl Malala, 4) Shia Sunni secretarial fight etc., etc. that cost thousands of lives every day around the world. UNO should call emergency Security Council meeting to stop spreading Qur’anic verse to kill thousands of non-Muslims and to implement Islamic ideology thru Sariah Law. Sariah Law is venom of Islam, empower Muslims to kill innocent people thru terrorist acts like September 11 in America.

May merciful God open up hearts of Muslims and all other people of the Earth to see light of Jesus Christ Who is Prince of Peace. Love your enemy is motto of Jesus Christ.

Unknown said...

David, I came across some of the marvelous videos that you have with Sam on YouTube. You guys have been presenting debates on ABN. I am hoping that these debates can be everywhere. On El Fady tv. This is the same idea that Fr. Zakaria Botros, and he is used by God to expose islam. Many muslims started to read and realize the light from the darkness. Now my only concern is your safety and those who are with you.
I will keep you in my prayer. May the Lord Jesus Christ send angels around you to protect you, and to protect Sam as well.

Dacritic said...

Charlie hasn't done his homework on the Quran before saying he doesn't believe it commands violence, so it makes it a little embarrassing for him to defend Islam this way. Have they got Wifi coverage in that room? Maher should've taken out his mobile and go online and show those violent verses to Rose, or... Simply come to Answering Muslims. Then again, Maher himself could maybe debate you, David, and hopefully open his heart to Christianity.

walter said...

Was Mohammad a "radical" Muslim?

Clearly ISIS behaves exactly as Mohammad did.

My understanding is: Muslim men are supposed to pattern their lives after the life of Mohammad. Mohammad would clearly approve of ISIS.

The Opinionist said...

I would describe my self as Darwinist. (Just to be clear from what angle I am coming).

The video clip brings up one point that has struck me for quite a while ago. People like Bill Maher, Geert Wilders and Pat Condell (essentially non believing cultural Christians like my self) Have far more in common with Christianity (and vice versa) then with Islam (and vice versa).

Add to this that Islam is a global thread on the same level as Communism and Fascism (They also have a lot in common) and the conclusion should be that
Agnosticism and Christianity should at least be allied when it comes to facing this evil.

As I said my strong belief in the evolution theory makes it impossible to be a Religious Christian, but I do enjoy the Theological teachings of David Wood. One thing is clear to me from this. If you compare the Koran with the Bible then the Koran is really a in-cohesive collection writings flawed by contradictions, where as the Bible is at least for a great part a cohesive Historical document.
A question I have is that if you believe in God and you believe God is in an eternal struggle between good and evil and evil is embodied by Satan, then surely Mohammed must be the devil him self much like Jesus is God. For me this is an "If - Then" scenario, but it is one that has my interest.

Unknown said...

Bill Maher you enjoyed saying Christians are stupid believing God Almighty, creator of earth and universe, giver of eternal life to those who believe Jesus as Savoir and Son of God. Please notice below in Psalm 49: 10-11, how King David wrote such thoughtful words on life about five thousands year ago when people did not have any knowledge about science and literature.
Psalm 49: 10-11
10 For all can see that the wise die,
that the foolish and the senseless also perish,
leaving their wealth to others.
11 Their tombs will remain their houses[b] forever,
their dwellings for endless generations,
though they had[c] named lands after themselves.

Was King David a stupid believer of God? Please read the Bible before you say anything about Christianity. It is said “Look before you leap”. FYI, slavery was way of life in early days as it is now employer and employee relationship for production. But you missed the point that God ordered both master and slave be respectful each other remembering God is Master of all. Is God not righteous as it is said in the Bible?

Science is not a separate power as Charlie Rose believes. It is a mechanism, God used in creation of Universe and life on earth. The book of Genesis in The Bible narrated creation in general term so that all walks of life could understand how we are here in present time. First principle of Science is that man cannot create or destroy anything. It indicates our knowledge is limited and we never can prove that there is no God. Believing no God is foolishness.

Farhan Qureshi said...

Islam is def a unique threat and it def is the worst religion that exists. Can an argument be made that there is a religion that is worse?