Bad news for the druid and wiccan priest in London when Sharia Law prevails...not to forget Harry Potter fans club also will be banned
AHHH Saudi Arabia, come for the Hajj, stay for the flogging and behaeadings.Truly a Islamic Paradise
Dear Mr. Osama,Thank you so much for bringing yet another phase of murder in Islam to our attention. You can deny as much as you want but the truth of the matter is that Islam and murder are so intertwined that it is impossible to separate them. It seems like answer to every matter in Islam is murder. You want to spread Islam, use the sword (murder). Anyone who is not Moslem, fight them (murder). Your women do anything out of line, murder them (honor killing). Anyone who leaves Islam, murder them. USA or any other non Moslem country does anyting, murder the Christians in Moslem countries. Murder and Islam are so intertwined that some times you don’t even need a reason to murder innocent people. Right now, how many copt Christians are being murdered and for what reason? Other than Islam, in no other religion you will find so much blood shed, even to this day. No founder of any other religion started with blood shed. You can look around the world and see how many innocent people die at the hands of Moslems every day. Just two days ago, a bomb blast in Afghanistan killed some over 50 people. The irony of it is that all of people died were Moslems. You see, murder is such a heinous act that it does not care who is in its path. Moslems when involved in this sin are so engulfed by Satan that they don’t even care if they are killing their own brothers and sisters. You can’t get out of this depraved and sinful state unless you leave Islam and follow the true light of the world Jesus Christ.My prayer is that God would open your eyes and give you eternal peace thru His Son Jesus Christ and use you to bring honor and glory to His name. With God, all things are possible.
"Your women do anything out of line, murder them (honor killing). Anyone who leaves Islam, murder them."RESPONSE:In regards to murdering women, that's not Islam! This is culture unjustly injected into or forced upon Islam by some of its followers. The Holy Quran is clear about flogging BOTH the man and the woman, and not just the woman, who commit adultery. Hate Islam all your want, for I don't give a toilet about what your position is, but you have to be honest; something is quite rare with many of the new borns.Hmmm let's see who I should side with: Islam that stands for what is Right and condemns what is wrong? Or the world of Whoredoms and Pagans that are joining forces to fight Islam (as Islam predicts)? I simply choose Islam. I rest my case and I am 100% satisfied with Islam and the Truth of Islam, and the Integrity and Honesty and Beauty and Chastity of Islam. I leave the hypocrisy and whoredom to the new borns.As to apostates, not all of them are to be killed, neither did the Glorious Quran even order the killing of apostates.Osama Abdallahwww.answering-christianity.com
Any servant of the Lord Jesus Christ should abhor sorcery. It is a crime against the honor and rights of the One True God, YHWH (see: Lev. 19:31, 20:27, Gal. 5:19-21). This is a serious sin, so serious that it was punishable by death under the Old Covenant. However, as servants of Christ under the New Covenant our obligation is to spread word of the moral reality of the sin through preaching The Gospel which supernaturally changes the hearts of men and women. We aren't charged with establishing and enforcing a theocracy here on earth, rather we are charged with preaching The Gospel which establishes a "theocracy of the heart" by which the believer is empowered by the Holy Spirit to love the Lord as their King and establish His laws over their life.Thank God our method comes from a miracle that works on the flesh of the heart from within, not a coercive force that works on the flesh of the neck from a sword. If only Saudi Arabia was more open to the Gospel, so the people there trapped under the stronghold of sorcery could be openly called from every rooftop to repent and believe. God have mercy on the people living under the wicked leaders in that land who are so haughty and twisted that they claim the right to try to silence the Gospel of the Lord, the source of all Truth and Light :(
@Osama - I feel so sorry for you and your blindness. I suggest you read this book http://www.amazon.com/Gods-War-Terror-Islam-Prophecy/dp/0977102181/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323904378&sr=8-1 - btw Christian prophecy has been accurate for thousands of years so you should listen instead of believing in the lone testimony on one man whose friends thought he was mad.
Here is another story from the Islamic Paradise for Osama Abdullah and KIM.Jailed Rape Victim FreedThe woman, identified only as Gulnaz for her own protection, had been sentenced to prison for 12 years after she reported that her cousin's husband had raped her two years ago. Wednesday, she was free at a women's shelter in Kabul, with her daughter.
Dear Osama,This is a common response when a Muslim is cornered. Either he will get violent or get abusive. Since you cannot get violent since America has not yet (God willing never will) been Islamicized... like your earlier teachers such as Ahmed Deedat, etc, you resort to snide comments such as "I leave the hypocrisy and whoredom to the new borns." whereas creating whores in the name of "Muta" was legalised by Devil's child Muhammad (rih) himself.In anycase, your reaction "In regards to murdering women, that's not Islam! This is culture unjustly injected into or forced upon Islam by some of its followers." is common among all Muslims who chose to reinterpret Islam in the "Taqiyya" as taught by Muhammad(rih) when in minority. David and others have provided tonnes of references from Islamic literature on the "killing and whorehouse" tactics of Muhammad (rih)If you really believe what you say. I challenge you to rise up and publicly proclaim that the barbaric activities as followed by Muslim countries is not Islam such as well illustrated in: 1. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/14/world/asia/afghanistan-rape-victim/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 is not Islamic.2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4043321.stm3. http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/01/17/97613.htmlHow is it that so called Islam proponents like yourself challenge Christians to debates (different thing that you conveniently miss the plane) but never dare to challenge the authorities of these countries who say and believe that they are following Muhammad's teachings to the dot???Before you put the same thing on me, there is a wealth of open discussions and debates wherein well known apologist such as James White, etc frequently challenge other denominations such as the Roman Catholics on the legitimacy of their beliefs with reference to the Bible.Would love to see you challenge a Maulana from Saudi, etc for a debate and would love to see the fireworks when you back your car out of your garage.In ChristNarenPs: Incase you are scrathing your head trying to figure out what is meant by (rih) I suffixed to Muhammad, it refers to his present state which is "Rotting In Hell". Now your pbuh to Muhammad makes more sense...
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@Osama Abdallah----------------------------------------------------------------------"In regards to murdering women, that's not Islam!" OA.----------------------------------------------------------------------Well, nice respond. But that also make me wonder, are you muslim? are you representing Islam?Maybe Saudi Arabia is Islam, and you just "pretending". Well there's a conflict here, who will then we all suppose to believe, you or the Saudi govt?And "if" and "when" Saudi Arabia get itself in a war, can you claim "that's not Islam" again? or are you gonna claim "Islam have been attacked" all over again?Such a hypocrisy coming from you.Now can you do the reverse? Can you claim US went to Afganistan as "crusade"? Is the Christian bible imprinted within constitution of US? Can you claim US as a theocracy? as a Christian nation?
You ever notice how Muslims like Osama keep telling us how Islam is suppose to be practiced, but it has never occurred the way they say it is suppose to be. How all of these Muslim societies and even the sheiks and Imaams all get it wrong. But the western apologists keep repeating it over and over. They got it wrong, and I got it right, trust me. LOL! They never question why nobody can get it right, but they want us to believe it's the best way, without any evidence of course. And then we look to Mohameds sunna and it is a frightening scenario. I hate Islam with all of my being. And I feel sorry and pity for Muslims with an equal amount!
Dear Mr. Osama,Thank you for your response, however I do detect hostility. So let me address this first. If you stop and think about it with a cool mind and correct me if I am wrong, if USA was an Islamic state we would not be having this conversation to begin with. After I posted my comments, there would have been riots and Moslems would have been on a killing spree, you including to stop the fitna. Now regarding murder, I notice that you did not deny any of the examples I gave. However, you did pick one example and say that even though it happens, it is not Islam. I am glad that you did not deny any of it because all of what I described earlier is true. Now why is it that even if honor killing is not mentioned in the Quran but yet it is part of Islam. And you are right, it could be culture, but that is my point. Islam is not based on Quran only. It is a mixture of Quran, Hadith and seventh century Arabian culture. E.g., you will not find 5 times prayer in the Quran but you as a Moslem do it. So my point is that murder and Islam are so intertwind that you can not separate them. Murder murder murder murder in Islam. Why is it that there is no honor killings in other religions. Why is it that there are no suicide bombers in any other religion? Even if all the murder in Islam is not legitimate, just one verse of Quran trump all the illegitimate murder in Islam. Sura 9:29, “fight those who do not believe in Allah or his messenger.” That includes fighting all of the religions in this world. And you know what happens when you fight with a sword.Now regarding Whoredoms. I have asked numerous question regarding this but you have not yet answered one. Tell me, in paradise, will you be marrying 70 houris? So if they are not your wives, having sex with 70 houris is not whoredom then what is it. Having sex with what your right hand possess , Is that not whoredom? Having sex with your captive girls, Is that not whoredom? Muta (prostitution) which Mohammad legalized, Is that not whoredom? So I am not sure which whoredom Islam condemns, per you? The Bible says, John 12:40, "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart,lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them." And in, 2 Corinthians 4:4, “In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.” You are complaining about whoredom of the world and forgetting about the whoredom in Paradise with Allah being the author of it. You are forgetting about the whoredom found in the Quran but complaining about the West. So my earnest prayer for you is that God of the Bible would open your eyes and replace your heart of stone with the heart of flesh. With God every thing is possible.
ALLAHU AKKKBARonce again we see Islam in action. Islam and Osama are their own worst enemiesALLAHU AKBZR
D335, I am for executing the witch. The reason why Wahabism, a rather very strict sect of Islam, was born in Saudi Arabia was becasue its people were so much into witch blasphemies. They'd seek blessings from graves, believe in superstitions and pay lots of money to "remove" curses, and on and on... Islam came to fight all of this and end it. Those who insist on going against Islam and corrupting the purity of the Muslims' society's morality are declaring war on GOD Almighty.I do not agree with the Wahabies' sect, which is what Taliban was derived from, for I belong to the Mainstream Islam. Wahabies/Salafies are minority. There are three other Sunni sects that are much moderate and more to the center than them. I belong to those Muslims.Naren, I can easily tell that you're a born again bigot who hates Islam and Muslims. Your rants are completely refuted at: www.answering-christianity.com/muta.htm. The Bible followers are the last to speak when it comes to harletry. It is deeply rooted throughout the Bible. We even find legalized incenstuous fantacies and lust between siblings being permitted in your book. Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm.Once again, when I see Islam and the anti-Islam forces out there, I see Islam and Muslims are ******far closer to GOD Almighty than the born again hypocrites and their pagan allies. We command what is Right and condemn what is wrong and we strive on fighting for the Cause of GOD Almighty against all evil. When I see the whoredom born agains and their allies, I see a religion (christianity) that leans forward and bend backward for all new ideologies and systems that emerge. Christianity, among all of the false religions, is by far the most LUDICROUS one of all! This is no cheap remark from me. It is a fact!Osama Abdallahwww.answering-christianity.com
@D335Well said... that's exactly what I meant in my post earlier. We speak to Muslims that they say that we misrepresent Islam and that we cannot talk about Quran since we do not understand Arabic. Now, when countries such as Saudi who read/write/speak Arabic better than even the ancestors of Osama can even dream about and then implement Islam as per the true Sunnah of Muhammad... hypocrites such as Osama, etc claim that these countries are not following Islamic teachings... But, they never stand up and openly challenge the belief system in these countries. Most definitely, Osama et all, are practicing Taqiyya as true followers of Muhammad.The Qur'an:Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves." Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose. From the Hadith:Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.Good job Osama... Muhammad (rih)and Iblis who met Muhammad (rih) in the cave at Hira must be proud of you. In ChristNarenIf they really believe
"I am for executing the witch. "So in other words, the tu quo que example you gave of the US killing witches is moot, since you actually agree? In other words, you're a big hypocrite!"Those who insist on going against Islam and corrupting the purity of the Muslims' society's morality are declaring war on GOD Almighty."So indeed you believe in Mohammad's decree to subjugate and slay the unbeliever, since mearly disbelieving in Allah and his prophet is "declaring war"? Or are you saying this part is part of the Wahabists interpretative that you disagree with? If the former, then PEASE PLEASE get mental help now NOW. DO NOT WAIT. Please go to your closest mental hospital or police station before you actually follow this.If it is the later then you need to explain how the quoranic verses about slaying and subjegating the infidel are wahabiast inventions or being very very misinterpreted. Your references to Solomon and incest are pretty rediculous and "whoredom" of Christianity are not only rediclous, but hypocritical considering the example of Mohammad. Once again your using tu quo que to deflect against charges of Mohammad, since that's all you CAN do since mohammad's behavior is irrefutable. Chrisitanity is against having sex before marriage, prostitution and idolotry. That people don't OBEY Christianity does not mean it is "accepting" of bad morals. You're using a redicously flawed logic here. I believe it is modern rejection of JudeoChcristian worldview that is the cause of what you call "whoredom" (premartial pregneccies, abortioins etc.) of modern culture, despite, not because of Christianity.
By the way, I am currently working on a long research that will prove to everyone, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), that we are the real followers of Christ, even in the Bible. When Christ said that the day will come when people will think that killing you is a work of GOD Almighty, he actually referred to the Muslims. The Christians today are far from being weak! Not only that, but they are mostly the oppressors throughout the world and history! Colonizations, World Wars, Slavery, Conspiracies, Mass Murders of nations (ex: the Native Americans), are a few examples.Christ also throughout the Bible, and the Bible also used Muslims and Islam and Salamies (plural that is equivalent to Muslims). The True Believers in the Bible are called Muslims! This is an indesputable fact.As to Christ's tomb is empty and Muhammad is dust in his grave, peace be upon both of them, in Islam we're not into the business of comparing Prophets. Allah Almighty Made it abundantly clear in the Glorious Quran that all Prophets are equal and that He, the Almighty, does not discriminate among them. ****************************One important point about Christ and the Spirits and Angels, however, is that it is a dream for them to be in flesh and blood like us. The Ultimate Paradise is physical. This is why Man was created in the IMAGE OF GOD (in the Bible), and the Spirits and Angels were commanded to bow under Adam's feet (our feet), including Jesus Christ himself! The Believers are the Ultimate Winners of Paradise! Christ coming to earth in flesh and blood and then ascending to Heaven doesn't mean he is higher than any Prophet. The reason he is what he is is because he is the Messiah who will fight satan's forces. This is his assignment. Even in the Bible, Angels were tempted by the "daughters of men", impregnated them, and produced giants from those females. We also read about people ascending to Heaven in PHYSICAL FORMS (flesh and blood) in the Bible.To flesh and blood is the Ultimate in Paradise. The Spirits and Angels could only dream about being like us. They (including Christ) bowed under the Believers' feet because we are higher than them.*******CHRIST HAD TO BECOME A FLESH AND BLOOD HUMAN IN ORDER FOR HIM TO BECOME EQUAL OR BETTER THAN US! Before that he was only a Spirit; a spirit that bowed under the Believers' feet in humility! There is a Divine Reason why Allah Almighty made them all bow under the human-believers' feet. This has a GREAT DEAL of importance and deserves much pondering upon. Believers are not despicable as Christians claim. Both Heaven and Hell's Ultimate Bliss and Torments are physical.I know that in Christianity, man is nothing, and that we deserve nothing. This is not true for the Believers who will win Paradise. Again, mock Islam all you want, but to me it is crystal clear that Islam is the Ultimate Truth from GOD Almighty! You only follow man made conjectures, as Allah Almighty Said about you in the Glorious Quran.Osama Abdallahwww.answering-christianity.com
Osamakeep up the good work. Show what the Shariah is all about and maybe the world will see the true face of your evil and vile religion.
hey osama so about the slavery and colonization. Did you know that islam was ensalving blacks long before colonization began for africans? Did you know only 1 in 5 survived when the slaves were castrated?. so islam was practising it. you are performing another logical fallacy of tu qou que again and again.Did you know when a religion is manipulated for politcal purposes its no longer a religion but idealology? that is what was happening during time of colonization. those people aren;t christians
@ D335Alo Bro.. iye nih, btw w udah muak &capek klo Indonesia sering dipake sbg icon toleransi Islam, kita2 hrs nunjukin wajah islam sebenarnya terutama di yg di Indonesiasekalian juga bagi2 sekaligus nimba ilmu sama suhu2 disini...hehe GBU
Osama: "This is why Man was created in the IMAGE OF GOD (in the Bible), and the Spirits and Angels were commanded to bow under Adam's feet (our feet), including Jesus Christ himself!"Osama: "They (including Christ) bowed under the Believers' feet because we are higher than them."Wow. Osama just keeps inventing new ways to speak blasphemies against the Lord Jesus. Now he claims that he himself is "higher" than Jesus, and claims that (God forbid) Christ bowed down to mere creatures. Wow. Osama has clearly been heavily affected and demonized. This is truly sad.
@ Osama AbdallahI was expecting "و ادرك شهرزاد الصباح فسكتت عن الكلام المباح"as the ending for the stories "Story of a thousand nights and night" to your ending ...I have been in the East and West, I have been in North and South ...and I think you will surpass the writings of the Al-shaheed Kadafi of Lybia ...I can not wait to read your thesis! ...Thanks for the warning ...
dear Osama Abdallah.You are a dissident of the Saudi govt and belief system, yet Saudi has maintained hold over the land more than 100 years (I'm reffering specifically to Masjid al Haram and Masjid al Nabawi). They became a kingdom nation in 1932 and yet, every muslims must subject to the Hajj within their life time.You are I believe under 50 years old (I dunno exactly, since your pic has beard all over), living in the west, under western values, never been subject to oppressive Islamic law.So who I suppose to believe what Islam is best represented? Again not you.But let us be civilized to one another and maintain kindness without sacrificing the truth here.For I have a question my friend, related to your new quest. ----------------------------------------------------------------------Why do you believe in Muhammad and Islam? ----------------------------------------------------------------------Again I will not judge you on your statement of faith, as my curiosity will be enough.My own statement of faith that I believe in Christianity as the prophecy came thru in Jesus Christ, the living God. That opens up to a larger concept of God's mercy and God's justice and God's will. Another point that I love about Christianity. I'm indeed no longer believe in Christianity AS "a must" or "raised as". I have learn many, I have seen enough and I also live in a country with different religion as majority (same as you, OA).My faith in Jeus may have been shaken once but never stirred.D335
Good Grief, is Osama on about whoredom again ?It's like an obsessive compulsive disorder with him....
Oh No Osama is threatening us with one of his brilliant unsubstantiated and illogical presuppositions. We are all shaking in our boots.Just like when he was coming to debate Sam and David. The depth of his delusion and grandiose behavior has no end!
Osama: I notice you didn't even attempt to address my post above and their questions.
Dear Osama,Conveniently avoiding my base argument that if you think you are right in your convictions about Islam and that countries such as Saudi, etc are wrong, then you should be challenging them to a debate cause finally these countries and their Shariah based on the teachings of Muhammad form almost 90% of the Muslim population. So, what Muslims like you understand of Islam is irrelevant. What can be assumed is that you are complying to the Taqiyya and Kidman instructions of Muhammad (RIH).You pasted a link of your refutation to Muta... an article which has been thoroughly discredited by Sam Shamoun on his site.Again, before you get into abusing me or/and Bro.Sam, lets give you the benefit of doubt and if you are so much true in your convictions... please challenge Imams/Maulanas in Iran, etc who still believe in Muta.In ChristNaren
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.Now it's happened.Amazing that even one could be so assured that he possesses final truth!
@Narenthat is not a bad idea Naren.there should be an open debate between the dissident and the authoritative govt rep. who based on the faith.Unfortunately that is also hard to do, since the Saudis or the Shiah Iranian holds blasphemy law. Or the debate can be outside of both nations.----------------------------------------------------------------------@Osama AbdallahSo why not OA? that's a good idea. Prooving that Islam is a religion of peace to other religion in the same nation is what you were doing most of the time. We know you hold peace, so are other religion's claim.But can you debate the same faith to another Islamic nation pointing the deviation in Islamic behavior that you disagree with? i.e. the beheading of women in Saudi and the muta marriage in Iran.Changing their heart and soul can be something good.
@D335,Absolutely, we frequently have debates with Roman Catholics, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Jesus Seminar and other cults on the legitimacy of their beliefs with ref to the Holy Bible... why don't these characters such as Osama Abdallah, etc challenge the proponents of Islam in these countries such as Saudi, Egypt, etc... If OA and others do something like this, it will prove the depth of their convictions and possibly by a miracle Osama may be win and possibly begin the end of the barbaric activities in these Islam occupied countries.I think that Osama does not do any of this would be ofcourse a fatwa against OA will be issued by the "Religion of Peace". Also, the typical charges of OA to Christians that we do not understand Arabic will be null and void since these Maulanas and Imams know the language, context, etc of the Quran and Hadith better than Osama can even begin to dream about. In short, OA is conveniently engaging in Taqiyya and Kidman.In ChristNaren
Quote:By the way, I am currently working on a long research that will prove to everyone, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), that we are the real followers of Christ, even in the Bible. endBlasphemy."Christ" is the Son of God.A Son you claim God does not have.You have not followed Christ.You are what you worship, you are according to the model of perfection.Your model of perfection is not called "Christ".It is Mohammed. A false prophet.You follow the revelation of a thug, a mass murderer, a conqueror and a rapist.You will always model your personality and thinking on a thug, a mass murderer, a conqueror and a rapist.You will never do any better.Your works are not the fruit of intelligence, but of cunning.And cunning is not valued in the West-- it is looked upon with contempt.Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.These are the words of the true worshippers of Christ.Words you, as a Moslem, are forbidden to say!
*Opens mouth wide in shock*Osama said:"D335, I am for executing the witch...Islam came to fight all of this and end it. Those who insist on going against Islam and corrupting the purity of the Muslims' society's morality are declaring war on GOD Almighty."That is all.Derek Adamswww.AnsweringAbraham.com
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