Friday, December 30, 2011

Does the Bible foretell the coming of Muhammad?

A debate between Mustafa Arja and Samuel Green. December 2011.


proof for god said...

xlnct vid. The Bible does foretell the coming of Mo in many places, including Matthew 24:24. Also see: Jude, 2Peter, etc. Although the passages aren't limited in scope to Mo, they do speak of his and Joe Smith's coming (as well as others).

AB said...

barenakedislam was taken down ..CAIR wins a wordpress finally bows down to islamic pressure... what a tragedy

Kelli said...

I really like the way Samuel Green debates. He treats his opponents as lost persons in need of the saving truth of God, not as enemies to be beaten down.

TAREK said...

As usual Dr. David and your whole team I must thank you for every little work you have done this year to make sure that you tell the naked truth, please keep it up in this coming year 2012. I also want you to know that I LOVE YOU ALL.

I watched the last debate of brother Samuel which was not that much good, but i must say this time that he did a good job; straight to the point with very good support of all the points, with reliable sources from both religion. As for the other debater he was very far from proving that his false prophet muhammad was foretold in the HOLY BIBLE.
To go back to what brother Sam Shamoun said and I quote " accusing the HOLY BIBLE of corruption is to accuse allah of the quran (the best of creators) sura 18 verse 27 and the other point is that history is against the claim of muslims" and I unquote.
If I were to choose a winner of this debate I will without any hesitation or bias pick brother Samuel.

Peter said...

Samuel Green does a good job here. And I agree with Kelli that he seems very nice and loving. I sense some humbleness too, which I think is a good thing, although some opponents will try to take advantage of that in a debate.


Search 4 Truth said...

Great job Samuel!

I think this was one of your best. And you clearly refuted him and contextualized! Awesome! God Bless bro!

concernedforusa said...

Mustafa's dishonesty and Scripture twisting is staggering and breath-taking!

That's all what Muslims can do: lie and twist the Scripture.

concernedforusa said...

To: Sam and David:

Mustafa did not quote John 14:16 to show that the Helper is Muhammad, because, according to John 14:26, the Helper is the Holy Spirit (in the same chapter 14).

Instead, he applied to John 16, where Jesus said that the Helper cannon come until He (Jesus) is on the earth (John 16:7).

We know that the Holy Spirit dwellt with the disciples and he will dwell in the disciples (John 14:17) which what exactly happened in Acts - The Holy Spirit poured into the disciples.

Is this the meaning of John 16:7 - that the Holy Spirit could not be poured into the disciples while Jesus was on the earth?

Sam or David, could you please make it clear for me?

Thank you.

concernedforusa said...

To: Sam or David:

Qur'an clearly says that Muhammad did not perform any miracles.

Hadith written 200 yrs after Qur'an was "revealed" try to embelish this fact with fables.

Qur'an takes precedence, becuase, according to Muhammad, Qur'an is the direct word of Allah. So, if Qur'an says that Muhammad did not perform any miracles, that means that he did not do any miracles, disregarding of what Hadith say, especially when we have conflicting stories in Hadith.

Nevertheless, if we take Hadith's story about splitting the Moon as authentic story happened in Mecca, then sources outside the Qur'an must have records about this phenomena which, according to Qur'an happened in 7th century.

There are no such records. This fable is just ridiculous.

Mustafa told that there was a record in Qur'an about a tree trunk which spoke to Muhammed.

Sam or David, could you please give a reference in Qur'an about this, if such verse in Qur'an exists?

GaBuRu said...

LOL watch this muslim-christian debate, see who is the most peaceful!

Koala Bear said...

This question has been beaten to death for years so how they can still deny the evidence is beyond me! Wake up muslims and see mohammed was a false prophet. All other prophets heard directly from God - but not him - his wife told him he was a prophet!

One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.

Hakim said...

I salute the Minyah Center in Sydney, Australia that hosted the event...they are Muslims from North Lebanon...I was there...that is a step dialogue

Hakim said...

I agree Kelli