Friday, December 30, 2011

Bare Naked Islam Blog Removed by Wordpress

Wordpress has begun removing blogs critical of Islam. I'm assuming the blog will return on a new server.

We can only hope that Blogger doesn't follow the same politically correct path.

23 comments:

aaron said...

guy should have had a filter on posts to take care of this issue.

Anyone could easily have planted in it or the fool was not christian in the first place.

Joe Bradley said...

More on this story.

http://patdollard.com/2011/12/wordpress-takes-down-%E2%80%9Cbare-naked-islam%E2%80%9D-blog-after-threats-from-cair/

Koala Bear said...

This kind of thing proves islam is of the DEVIL.

CL Edwards said...

Wow and I was planning on moving over to Wordpress..me thinks not any more. Honestly this is just the warm up pretty soon we will have our own blaspheme laws.

Samatar Mohamed said...

@KoalaBear

"This kind of thing proves islam is of the DEVIL."

Oh really.

Deleting said...

CL said, "... pretty soon we will have our own blaspheme laws."

We already do. A social law call political correctness.
It's right up there with pacification.

Orange Mask said...

I am so angry at this. BNI was one of the sites I checked daily when I was questioning Islam. Now it's gone. I hope they decide to do self hosting. That's the problem with services like WP, Blogger and Tumblr. The content is yours, but it's on THEIR site. At a moments notice, all someone has to say is "This offends CAIR" and poof! You're gone. It's like what Youtube did to some of David's videos all over again.

Peter said...

Am I correct that the site was removed because of readers's comments and not because of the articles?

If that's the case I think that CAIR should have contacted the site admin and asked him to remove the threatening comments. It is not right to remove an entire site just because some jerk writes a threatening comment.

I mean if I was a jerk without a sense of moral I could just go to any site that I dislike and write nasty comments to have the site removed. That's not the way to deal with issues of disagreement.

Peace.

Baron Eddie said...

I wonder who owns wordpress now?

Foolster41 said...

Cair claims the articles and comments were inciting violence against muslims. Were they? I doubt it, andif it isn'ty does CAIR seriously hold blogs responsible for the comments postesd on the blags? Even if they have a disclaimer (which most blogs do)? I hope barenakedIslam sues CAIR and wordpress and asks these important questions in court.

I was considering starting a blog with wordpress, but now I'll probibly just stick with blogger.

Mike A Robinson said...

Muslims and politically correct progressives are both afraid of the truth and the exposure of their errors.

Foolster41 said...

Clearification: That is to say. I don't believe the articles themselves were inciting violence. Having a blogger responsible for the comments section sets a very dangerous and slippery slope for freedom of speech.

Koala Bear said...

@Samatar mohammed - prove he isn't! You already follow the anti-Christ religion thus do not worship the same God as Christians.

How would any God you would want to follow allow these?

Jihad – unholy war to conquer all kafir nations and force them to submit to Islam – there are 164 Quranic teachings of Jihad. (Quran 29.6, 29.53, 22.52); Pre-Pubescent Child Rape (65:4); Rape (4.3); Gang Rape (24:13); Sex Slavery (4:24); Torture (22.19-22); Whipping Adulators (24.2); Amputation and Crucifixion (5:33); Beheading (8:12, 47:4); Wife Beating (4:34); Inferiority of Women (2.228, 4.11, 4.176); Women are Sex Objects (2.223); Mass murder (2:191, 9:5,); Human sacrifice – Killing kafirs (47.4); Terrorizing kafirs (8.60, 3.151); Immoral Paradise guaranteeing accession to Paradise for Muslim men who kill kafirs or who die in the process of trying to kill kafirs (9.111); Massacre (8.67, 7.4); Genocide (8.17); Theft and Robbery (Entire Chapter 8 called Booty); Believe that all other religions must submit to Islam (2.103, 2.286, 3.19, 48.16); Believes in your children are your enemies (9.23, 64.15); Revenge (5.45); Hate (5.60, 2.61); Slavery (2.178); Extortion (9:29); Lying (3:28, 5:51)

Only something evil would allow that in my opinion.

Koala Bear said...

@samatar mohmmed -

Mohammed wasn't even a prophet!

One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.

Joe Bradley said...

To answer some of the questions raised here, godaddy.com is the registrar for wordpress.com and their records indicate the following:

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From the articles I have read, the objections came from the "comments" section and NOT from the blog articles themselves.

It would seem that the crux of any legal argument would be two fold. First, was CAIR accurate in their depiction of the commentary. I have to say that I wouldn't trust CAIR's judgements or assertions under any circumstances.

Secondly, the question arises whether or not Wordpress did any sort of an investigation to make a determination as to whether or not the subject commentary did, in fact, violate the Wordpress Terms Of Service (TOS). The possibility does exist that Wordpress was merely pandering to CAIR when they booted BNI.

Thirdly, there is the question of who actually published this commentary. If comment moderation was enabled, such as with the Answering Muslims blog, it could be effectively argued that the blogger (BNI) was the publisher, however, if comment moderation was not enabled, allowing commentary to be published without the blogger's knowledge, then it may well be the responsibility of Wordpress (in this instance). Their natural defense against this assertion would be that the blogger (BNI) had a choice of whether to enable or disable comment moderation, however, Wordpress can easily enforce comment moderation by eliminating the choice in the setup dashboard, thereby enforcing comment moderation, so this defense would ring hollow.

It would be nice to see the Thomas Moore Law Center get involved in this one . . . anyone have their card? ;-}

Samatar Mohamed said...

@Koala Bear

We are already discussing islam and rape in the other column so feel free to join. And when you look at the authentic narrations of the prophet (pbuh), he never murdured anyone without a valid reason. To murder usually has a negative connotation, but you know as well as I do that murder as long as it is justified is actually ok. Take a look at 1 samuel 15 verse 3. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." The murder included innocent women and children, and even the animals. With regards to Muhammad (pbuh) being a pervert, you should actually look into the life of the prophet (pbuh). He was first married at the age of 25 with a women named Khadija who was 15 years older then him. He stayed married with her, and her only for about twenty five years untill she passed away. The prophet (pbuh) was then 50. Now lets look at this logically, we all know that the sexual peak of a man is from his teenage years onwards, but we also know that mens sexual drive tends to decrease, not increase. If Muhammad (pbuh) was a pervert, then he surely would not have married a 40 year old women, and stayed with her for 25 years. Try to be consistent. And your point claiming that you can dismiss Muhammad (pbuh) as a prophet because prophets do not do things such as rape, adultery, murder, idolatry, etc.... Take a look at Genesis 9, verse 20 to 29, and you will see that Noah (pbuh) used to get drunk. In 1 Kings 11, verse 9 to 13, Solomon (pbuh) actually turns to idolatry and turns to other Gods beside the one true God. And in 2 samuel 11, the entire chapter, you get to read how the Prophet David (pbuh) commited adultery by sleeping with a women named bathsheba who was already married to a man named Uriah. And he goes further in verse 14, "In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. 15 In it he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.” David (pbuh) just commited murder and adultery. So your presupposition that prophets do not act in that way contradicts what happened in the Bible.

Tatersalad said...

Mosques being built in the Detroit area while the community is "asleep". Before everyone knows it, you will be speaking their language and enjoying their sharia laws.



http://biid.lsa.umich.edu/detroit-area-mosques/

Long live BareNakedIslam

Tatersalad said...

Mr. Joe Bradley.........Thomas Moore Law Center in Ann Arbor, Michigan has Pastor Terry Jones as one of their clients and would probably be glad to take this one on,

http://www.thomasmore.org/default-sb_thomasmore.html?693487861

gregjaye said...

I just visited that wordpress blog and it is functioning ...

1389 said...

BNI is temporarily up, but must leave by January 6.

Status updates will be posted [HERE].

str8wire said...

@ Samatar

You pick some stories from the bible to gloss over the deeds of your 'profet'. I also read that God is very angry about those deeds done by children of God like David and Salomon. I never read that your 'profet' was punished/warned for all his misdoings by his 'god'.
And this 'perfect' example for humanity we should follow?

julietsm said...

I know Bonni quite well and spoke to her recently. While she is feeling pretty depressed that CAIR defeated her, or rather WordPress caved - she nevertheless plans to come back on another server. Too bad that more people do not make financial donations to her site, if she had her own domain I don't think it would have been so easy to have her blog deleted.
She will definitely be back. That's what she told me, and I have no reason to doubt her. She has been at this for years, every day making multiple posts. This is something she NEEDS to do. I think she would really suffer if she didn't have somewhere to direct all of her energy and loathing of a form of fascism that shelters under the guise of religion that has set out to destroy our country.
Btw, CL Edwards, recently Hijab Hillary made a speech at the UN, in which she said that in America we have learned to be mature about others insulting our religons. She said that 'freedom of speech' is a 'God-given right'. Now I agree with that, but since she has been working overtime trying to find a way to bring the blasphemy laws to the U.S. I must assume that she has given up. Why else would she make a speech that is so obviously not part of her agenda? Oh well, now that the usurper is a legal assassin and can kill without question, I guess those pesky blashemy laws are not really needed. The usurper can simply whack anyone who criticises his beloved islam and his beloved self.

flyingmythbuster said...

@Samatar Mohamed: "...narrations of the prophet (pbuh), he never murdured anyone without a valid reason." Really, is there ever a good reason? Our law states that one cannot take another life except in self defense. So muhammed committed murder at least 1000 years after the events in the bible. What is described in the bible is description not justification as is expressed in the koran. So what justification can he have for quatering a woman (halved really)? Do you think he would tolerate Nathan's criticism as expressed in the David episode you describe? No he didn't; he had that woman killed. Mo also f#%ked women that were not his wife(ves). This is called adultery, even if they were slaves and as such it is really rape because slaves have no right of refusal. Jesus warned us of just such men and called them false prophets as proven by the sectarian violence, far beyond anything in other religions, almost from the very start of Islam both in and out of the religion to the present day.