People who visit this blog funded our trip to Phoenix for debates, training, speaking, outreach, etc. While we were still able to give some presentations, the highlight of the week was supposed to be the debates, and many people who contributed to the trip were looking forward to seeing Islam exposed (with the help of Osama Abdallah).
Alas, in a tragic display of cowardice and contempt for non-Muslims, Osama didn't show up for the debates (though he had repeatedly assured all of us that he would be there). I've been patient with Muslims like Osama over the years, but this time, a Muslim has finally managed to annoy me. Play time is officially over.
Since I hate to see everyone disappointed at a missed opportunity, I have promised Osama that I will be posting a devastating (and irrefutable) critique of his prophet on Friday.
For a new twist, I'd like everyone to visit this blog on Friday, and to share the video through FaceBook, other blogs and websites, Twitter, PalTalk, comments sections, emails, etc., rapid-fire style. Let's see how Osama feels after causing an internet blitz against his prophet.
Good for yu David.
Expose Moahmmed for what he truely was. The PERFECT MUSLIM. The PERFECT EXAMPLE. Child Molester amd pediile, rapist, liar deceiver, war lord and briggamd. The list goes on. And dont forget folks Mohammed is the PERFECT Example. Face it Osama the greatest arument against Islam is MOHAMMED HIMSELF!
Camel Urine Anyone
we will simply refute it the next day. bring it on.
Excellent, Kim! After your comment on my last post, I assumed you'd given up trying to defend Islam.
BTW, when you say "refute," do you mean "say something in response," or "show an argument to be logically or factually flawed"? I find that Muslims often say they've "refuted" an argument whenever they've managed to piece together a series of words that bear some indiscernible connection to the original argument.
I'm in...can't wait for this video :)
Looking forward to it David. With your permission, I'll mirror the post on YouTube and see if I can get others to mirror, as well. Can you say "viral"?
KAFIR AND PROUD!!
Now go ahead and tell us you werent saying that Southwest airline isnt the one you used to use that suggested being there 30 minutes before flight. And I have flown enough to know to be there at lest 60 minutes prior to flight. I would say that would be common sense by now.
More deception, deflection and disrespect!
Southwest Airlines Check-in
Passengers can check in online, at check-in desks, at the departure gate or at self-service kiosks. Check-in times vary by airport, but Southwest suggests arriving between 60 and 90 minutes before your flight is due to depart.
@ Kim when exactly and what topic did you ever refute.
You think that posting any rhetoric constitutes a rebuttal. Even if it refutes one of your previous statement or doctrine. You really cant be this delusional.
I'm down!! I'm not sure if I'm more excited about the video or the "refutation attempts" shortly after..its always so painful to watch/read. You ever just feel embarrassed for someone?
LOL. Kim tells 1MM not to debate us, and then she says she'll refute us the next day.
Kim, I'm **still** waiting for your "refutation" and explanation regarding the mother of the book. Have you given up?
What makes you think you will be able to refute anything David presents when you haven't been able to refute anything thus far?
So far, all you've basically managed to do is post website links and say that we're refuted.
Please do let me know if you're going to explain the Umm al kitab and the other points made regarding Allah the man god.
Search4Truth: You found the same nugget I did lol. Isn't it amazing?
I wonder if Kim thinks that her brother ought to compensate the people who spent money on the debate tickets.
Brother David, I am curious to know the number of Muslims who bought tickets to the debate. Do you have any stats for us?
God bless you David!!! Boy I can not wait for this video. I wish it was Friday right now. Can't remember the last time I got this excited. Brother David, please expose their false religion to the fullest and I pray to our Lord Jesus, The King of kings, that Muslims actually watch your video and try to search for the truth rather than watch it with a mindset on presenting thru illogical explanations claiming their so called refutes...
Why do we have to wait until Friday to view the video :( Is it Kim's birthday or something ? Or Osama's ?
Happy Birthday Kim/Osama !!
I shall raise a glass to you - enjoy your gift.
Why must we wait until Friday to view the video :( Is it Osama's birthday or something ? Or Kim's ?
Many Happy Returns on your birthday Osama and/or Kim !!
I shall raise a glass to you - enjoy David's gift. :)
I'll simply make my own video response to it and spread that.
Hi Kim... didn't you say thate you're not going to be in this blog? so: are you a man off word or a rat?
Davis Wood said: "BTW, when you say "refute," do you mean "say something in response," or "show an argument to be logically or factually flawed"? I find that Muslims often say they've "refuted" an argument whenever they've managed to piece together a series of words that bear some indiscernible connection to the original argument."
Bravo! Very correct observation! Usually when a topic of debate come up the non-Muslim side belabors a point painstakingly by referring to references in Islamic scripture, carefully constructing a logical argument, and leading it to its conclusion and then he says to the Muslim: "OK! Now its you turn. What do you have to say in response to all of that?"
But the Muslim just comes out and says: "AH!!! Weak!!! Non of that convinces me! So you obviously failed!! End of discussion" And then declares victory!!!
I mean we don't care if you got convinced or not! All we want to know is why weren't you convinced. What was your reasoning? But it seems that you have non since you never ever present any. If you refuse to accept our well grounded arguments against your religion without having any counter arguments against them then all you are doing is parading your bullheadedness, prejudice and stubborn fanaticism! That's NOT a "refutation" and not "a victory" in a debate!!
Oh! And there is another reaction also to our arguments. The Muslim again does absolutely nothing to present any counter argument. All he does is move the goalpost. Instead of answering or accepting our arguments he will bring up some unrelated topic or ask an irrelevant question or demand something irrelevant to be shown in the Quran or in the Bible in EXACT wording that he demands and pretends that failure to satisfy this demand somehow refute the previous argument that we already made even though he didn't answer it and the verses that he is demanding have nothing to do with it! Then of course he again declares victory.
In both cases the non-Mulims has done ALL of the intellectual heavy lifting and work and the lazy Muslim is just sitting there as if he is some king or Judge and decrees his opinions as if they were facts and just dismisses argument with a slight of hand without having to do any of the hard work of actually refuting our them!
I must say there is hardly a more Intellectually lazy people than Muslims.
I don't know how to use paltalk. I tried downloading it, but I never could use it, and it would pop up on my computer at the most annoying times, so I erased it.
In any case, show Mohammad for the liar and false teacher that he was. He made his abode in hell, and according to scripture, it is where he is still burning.
7 And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment.
8 In the same way, these people—who claim authority from their dreams—live immoral lives, defy authority, and scoff at supernatural beings. 9 But even Michael, one of the mightiest of the angels, did not dare accuse the devil of blasphemy, but simply said, “The Lord rebuke you!” (This took place when Michael was arguing with the devil about Moses’ body.) 10 But these people scoff at things they do not understand. Like unthinking animals, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction. 11 What sorrow awaits them! For they follow in the footsteps of Cain, who killed his brother. Like Balaam, they deceive people for money. And like Korah, they perish in their rebellion.
But be gentle and patient to Osama. He is a human being.
Kim, Sweetheart, you keep saying that you can refute us, but you have only replied to me one time, and that was to ask me where I got the idea that our God was a Consuming Fire. Then when I showed you, you never replied again to my arguement that a Consuming Fire would never have made Mohammad feel cold.
I really believe that it was probably a demon that Mohammad felt and obeyed--or maybe it was just his imagination.
1moremuslim doesn't reply to us either. Nor does the other Muslim whose names begins with an M. I really do care about you.
Search 4 Truth and David Wood,
Search 4 Truth - You are getting more and more obnoxious. Everyone in the country, who flies in its airports, knows that you can board domestic flights 1/2 hour before departure. You can even come at last minute and still depart for as long as they didn't give your ticket to a "stand by" passenger. What you posted was their recomendation/suggestion to the passengers. Either you're ignorant or you're flat out liar. Either way, you're wrong.
Enough about this silly point.
David Wood, you too are getting more and more obnoxious! If I wanted to miss the debate, I could've simply came here and said oh well, Sam Shamoun violated our agreement by speaking to me, and hence, I have the right to cancel. But I am not into this. I wanted to come and couldn't due to bad luck with the airline. For GOD's sake, quit crying like a little girl! Enough crying already!!!!! Geeeezzz!" You sound more and more obnixous the more you open your mouth! Do you really think you're that big of a deal, Shogun, and I am that much of a "coward" as you called me?!
I tell you what David, I can debate you via ABN on TV or on skype. Wanna do that, buddy? Let's see whose Faith will stand. If you reject this challegne, then you're the coward here, not me.
I will translate it into spanish and post it on youtube... god bless you all
David .I think you guys should stop wasting time with these Osama's and debate good opponents like Bassam Zawadi ,Sami Zaatari.As you can see Bassam has become a hero to Kim.Debating him will be good
Look forward to the video.
(and also the 'refutations'.)
You must really think we are stupid. I mean its one thing to lie, but at the very least have some respect for those that you are lying to.
"Search 4 Truth - You are getting more and more obnoxious. Everyone in the country, who flies in its airports, knows that you can board domestic flights 1/2 hour before departure. You can even come at last minute and still depart for as long as they didn't give your ticket to a "stand by" passenger."
Well evidently South West Airlines doesn't know that becasue from their website.
To use Online CheckIn and print your Boarding Pass, you must:
Be age verified if traveling on Senior, Child, or Infant* rates.
Check in beginning 24 hours prior to your scheduled departure.
Check in at least one hour prior to your scheduled departure.
Have a ticketless reservation.
Be checking in for flights that have not already departed.
Have purchased an eligible fare type (Customers holding reservations for group or military fares, and those requiring an additional seat must proceed to the airport for checkin).
Refute? Refute what? David will simply go tho your own sources such as sira and the haddiths. The greastes argument against Mohammed is Mohammed himself
Tell me Kin would you trust Mohammed with your nine year old daughter?
Here is another one...
Southwest recommends you arrive at the airport 1-2 hours before your flight.
And here is the link to Airport Check in times
Can you show me what air port from that list allows you to arrive a half hour before flight time?
I have also called South West airlines and was informed that you will NOT BE LET ON THE PLANE IF YOU SHOW UP A HALF HOUR BEFORE FLIGHT TIME>
All that I can tell you is that if Southwest has in the past allowed you to show up less than 1/2 hour before departure, it has been a form of discrimination, because they never allowed me.
I am so excited to watch your video. David please allow her to post it here.
You may enjoy a live debate with a Christian woman. Perhaps David can arrange something.
You state, “Do you really think you're that big of a deal, Shogun, and I am that much of a "coward" as you called me?!” I don’t believe any of God’s children including David Wood would claim to be a big deal. However, our God is a big deal. He is the consuming fire. You know how big of a deal He is, Romans 14:11 “For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” Philippians 2:10, “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Our God is the creator and ruler of the universe. Everybody, whether they love God, resist Him, or ignore Him, will ultimately come face to face with His majesty, and will recognize Him for who He is. This is how big of deal he is.
I can’t recall the last time when a moslem gave a logical exegesis of any of the stuff that has been asked of them. You will be talking about apples and they will bring examples of oranges. No matter how much you prove to them that Sky is blue, if it doesn’t fit their theology, they will keep saying, no the sky is green.
I pray that God may have mercy on Osama and Kim and other Moslems who read these posts. And that He may take away the veil of darkness from their eyes and that He brings them into His fold and use them for His glory.
All glory and honor and praise be to our Lord, our savior and redeemer Jesus Christ.
BTW I can sense the trumpets of war here.Sounds like the end of islam has just started to begin.God bless you David!!!I am feeling really thrilled about this battle of titans!
Come on Osama Abdullah, give credit where credit is due. He did show up to the debate waiting for your arival, so David is definitely not a coward. After missing two of his debates I think he has the right to choose whether to debate you again or not. But i also believe that your not a coward but was faced with an unfortunate circumstance of missing the flight. Best of luck to you brother and inshaallah you will have many more opportunities to defend the true religion Islam.
Kim ia always right, 1mm is always right and Osama is ALWAYS right....
But now the problem is: Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Hence you are refuted...no wait...I gotta catch my flight...
Going back to last year, Osama has backed out of the last FIVE debates Sam and I have scheduled with him. Yet I'm a "coward" if I don't start scheduling another.
Welcome to the Muslim mind.
Isnt it true that Bassam Zawadi is also runing away from Sam?
Osama said: "The EXTREMELY HATEFUL bigots and their bigotry on this board are really sick! So now, for me as a Muslim, an accident or bad luck would never and must never be accepted by anyone to would have happened just for the simple bigot fact that I am a Muslim?.... Is it really too hard, for you bigots, to understand even this much?.... What difference will it make anyway, to you and your bigots on this board... So why not take the other to-hell-with-you-bigots approach.."
WOW! You are now insulting others! You are proving to be a lot more obnoxious than I thought you were!
Remember, Osama, it is your own fault! Don't blame others. You are to blame yourself. As I said before, any normal person in your place with any bit of courtesy would be embarrassed, feel terribly sorry and apologize. Yes, things happen. But when things happen good mannered people feel embarassed and give a geniune apology immediately. You didn't apologize when you first wrote and when people started questioning, you gave, what seems to be, a halfhearted apology. Then again you quickly got back to throwing more insults and lame excuses. No wonder people don't trust you. You are showing a complete lack of decency, manners, courtesy and good culture! You should be ashamed of yourself!
And, Osama, stop that name calling! Everyone knows that you don't have any substance so you just keep calling others "bigots".
By the way, bigot is defined as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance". No one fits that definition better than your own prophet! Do you want some examples? I bet you would know enough, but people here will be glad to help you with it. And by that same definition most Muslims are bigots - you guys hate Jews, hate the west and intolerant to minorities and other religions. It will be silly of you to ask for examples if you follow this blog or read a newspaper! So my advise to you is to better stop name-calling for he who digs a pit will fall into it himself!
Yes you are right NO MATTER what you say to a muslim they 2 step all around it, they are wishy washy. The other day I was talking with a muslim and he told me that God does not have to be born into his creation he kept saying he don't have to, and we went back and forth so I said God doesn't have to let you breath another second so I gave him that God doesn't have to, then I said but could God if he wanted to and he started to say no and I said are you telling God what he can and cannot do, he said no he is God he can do what he wants and I said exactly, and he did. THANK YOU JESUS
I can't wait David and Sam!!! You guys are Great!!! I Thank You for helping to educate me on Islam and all it's confusing ways!!!
David Wood said: “...Osama has backed out of the last FIVE debates Sam and I have scheduled with him.”
Oh Wow! And this man has the temerity to come here and spew out profanity?—Didn’t his Muslim mother teach him basic propriety and decorum?
Bartimaeous said: “Tell me [Kim] would you trust Mohammed with your nine year old daughter?”
This indeed is a profound indictment against Mohammad. He would not be a reliable baby-sitter, yet Muslims trust him with their eternal salvation. Islam doesn’t pass the laugh test.
Mr Osama, Watching this up coming video and you can debate David on the topic of Muhammad.
You told me in another post that you contacted sam shamoun and that he told you bassam is running away from sam. Then why are you asking if bassam is running away. I do not get it.
Yes, Hemel, it is true that Zawadi is running away from me, much like Osama just did by not showing up to the debates since he knew what was going to happen to him and his prophet.
"Going back to last year, Osama has backed out of the last FIVE debates Sam and I have scheduled with him. Yet I'm a "coward" if I don't start scheduling another.
Welcome to the Muslim mind."
David, maybe you should state that those five debates were only for two weekends; this past weekend that I missed, and the one that you were boycotted on.
Radical Moderate: You obviously have no clue what domestic flying in the USA is like. You provided two links: One is a suggestion, which doesn't count, and the other states:
"Check-in 60 minutes-24 hours before your flight is scheduled to depart." (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Southwest_Airlines/checkin.php)
60 minutes to 24 hours check-in? I say, why don't you be the jackass of all of America, and bring your body 24 hours before your flight, right at the gate, the next time you want to fly from one US-State to another. Ok buddy?
I think that it is a really good idea to launch a verbal blitz against the so-called prophet.
You have my support.
Both David Wood and a lot of other people seem to be very frustrated with Mr. Abdallah's failure to attend the recent debate.
I think that it is an extremely good idea to direct this frustration towards Islam instead of directing it towards Mr. Abdallah, who is just a man like everybody else. Turn the frustration into something positive. Mr. Abdallah knows very well that he made a mistake, so there's no point in yelling at him.
I don't agree with fighting people. I believe in figting lies and wrongs. Therefore when muslims fail to debate, or when muslims do wrong in any way I think that it is great idea to simply tell the truth about the so-called prophet and about Islam.
We muslims believe God can do anything that does not violate his attributes. By entering into his creation, by eating, sleeping, and limiting himself, we believe that he would have violated many of his attributes such as being the most glorious, exalted, the most great and many more. Therefore, I believe he would never do something to lower his attributes. Remember, this is my opinion and therefore, can be flawed.
Osama are you in a mental institution.
Obviously you can't!!!
BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY WOULDNT ALLOW IT! LOL! Where is your brain? If everyone knows you can do it than why Coulter you do it? This is preposterous! Bad luck? How is not getting there in time bad luck?
IT'S CALLED IRRESPONSIBILITY AND NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE. SELFLESSNESS AND DECEIT!
EVERYONE KNOWS YOU SHOULD BE THERE AN HOUR BEFORE BOARDING! You are quite the imbecile! I bet if you took a survey everyone would say you should be there an hour before boarding, especially since your Ummah continues to try and take down planes and innocent civilians!
If the airline recommends and hour to 90 minutes and you say no, 30 minutes are enough and expect special treatment than you are out of your MIND! Keep digging that hole Osama. You are a laughing stock!
Sam can you find the hadith where Allah enters his creation to collect prayers? And thanks for telling us what God can and cannot do, and what he will and will not do! Samater seems to know Allahs will. These people are amazing hypocrites!
Osama if it's a dead topic like what you posted in the 'osama ends his career' blog, then why are you continuing the conversation on this blog post.
Second, Radical Moderate, I think, is an American. I've heard him debate. He could be canadian but i don't think it matters much.
He's flown a few times on airplanes. The only one who doesn't seem to know what it's like to fly domestically is you.
Are you serious? Bring it on you say. I have yet to see you refute even one thing so far.
You continue your embarrasment when you wrote...
"Radical Moderate: You obviously have no clue what domestic flying in the USA is like. You provided two links: One is a suggestion, which doesn't count, and the other states:
"Check-in 60 minutes-24 hours before your flight is scheduled to depart." (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Southwest_Airlines/checkin.php)
60 minutes to 24 hours check-in? I say, why don't you be the jackass of all of America, and bring your body 24 hours before your flight, right at the gate, the next time you want to fly from one US-State to another. Ok buddy?"
First I posted THREE LINKS the first was to SOUTHWESTS SITE which states...
To use Online CheckIn and print your Boarding Pass, you must:
Check in beginning 24 hours prior to your scheduled departure.
So Check in BEGINS 24 hours prior to flight. In other words if I book a flight say a month from now I can not check in a week before my flight. It must be with in 24 hours of my flight.
Second it states...
"Check in at least one hour prior to your scheduled departure."
So the Check in proccess begins 24 hours before your flight, and ends ONE HOUR BEFORE YOUR FLIGHT.
The next link verify's this, and the final link is a link to SOUTH WEST AIRLINES LISTING OF AIRPORTS.
SHOW ME ONE JUST ONE AIRPORT THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN CHECK IN A HALF AND HOUR BEFORE YOUR FLIGHT?
YOu said you lost your hotel reservation. So what hotel where you going to stay at? What times and dates?
Do you know what Hotel or Motel Osama was going to stay at?
I wonder if he even had a hotel room reserved?
Samatar,I was not asking anyone that Bassam is running away from bro Sam.I already knew that.I was just trying to bring up the issue that just like Osama ,Bassam Zawadi who is heavily adored by Kim here,is also running away from bro Sam.Maybe my writing style was not accurate as my languaage is not English.
"He could be canadian but i don't think it matters much. "
Did you just call me a Canadian? Dems Fightin words. :)
Yes I am American born and raised.
I was flown on a private plane for a job interview a few months ago. Even though it was a private plane and a PRIVATE AIR PORT I still had to get there ONE HOUR before my flight.
Kim said: "we will simply refute it the next day. bring it on"
Kim, you are never short of empty bravado! Just tell me of ONE argument that you refuted in this blog. Just one.
You haven't answered many questions that I posted to you over the last few months - in spite of re-posting them several times. When you answered a couple of them, all you did was copy-paste an unrelated mumbo-jumbo and call that a refutation! I also haven't seen you refute even one argument of others. One just needs to go back and see - you lost every single time you attempted to refute someone. But you still come back to another post and claim victory! Incredible!
Search for truth: I believe the hadith you're looking for is this:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 93, Number 586:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Every night when it is the last third of the night, our Lord, the Superior, the Blessed, descends to the nearest heaven and says: Is there anyone to invoke Me that I may respond to his invocation? Is there anyone to ask Me so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone asking My forgiveness so that I may forgive him?. " (See Hadith No. 246,Vol. 2)
Search 4 truth: Note the problem this hadith leaves Muslims with:
Every last third part of the night, Allah Descends.
It is ALWAYS going to be "the last third part of the night" SOMEWHERE on the earth because the earth is round and rotates on its axis.
Thus, either Allah is constantly descending, or Mohammad thought the earth is flat.
Muslims will obviously want to deny that the hadith teaches a flat earth, so now they have to explain how Allah can be in a state of constant descending. Perhaps He's doing a funky kind of Mexican wave as He orbits the earth.
And yes, this hadith shows undoubtedly that Allah indeed does enter His creation, namely the nearest heaven. Since Allah is capable of such, there should be no reason for Muslims to reject the notion of the incarnation of Christ.
You blessed me with your post. It does me much good to read you - or anyone else - declaring (out here in the public space) the Lordship and Glory of the One Living God in Jesus Christ.
YES! EVERY knee will bow... EVERY tongue will confess (we're gonna be SHOUTIN') "JESUS CHRIST IS LORD AND GOD!!!"
HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! Even so, Lord Jesus... come quickly.
KAFIR AND GRATEFUL TO JESUS CHRIST!!
you said, 'Did you just call me a Canadian? Dems Fightin words. :)
Yes I am American born and raised.'
LOL!! :) I figured you were but you can never be sure sometimes.
Did you ever watch 'the kids in the hall'? It was canadian. They had Scott Thompson dress up like Queen Elizabeth and had him say in a sketch 'With us you are simply Americans."
Search 4 the truth
If you read my post you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion, I never claimed to know the will of Allah (swt). In fact, i even said that my idea may be flawed, but that it was the way I see it. Please don't misquote me.
Samatar Mohamed said...
"We muslims believe God can do anything that does not violate his attributes."
OK; so, how does Allah violate his attributes by entering into creation? If you believe the same about Allah as the Qu'ran says about Jesus, then you would think that entering creation means that Allah gives up his attributes and becomes part of creation. Christians don't think like that since the Bible states that Jesus took on flesh--not became flesh. That means that Jesus existed outside of creation and before it but entered it.
"By entering into his creation, by eating, sleeping, and limiting himself, we believe that he would have violated many of his attributes such as being the most glorious, exalted, the most great and many more."
But, Christians don't believe it that way. The Bible says that Jesus put aside His glory in taking on flesh and was restored to His glory after His ascension to Heaven. That is far different than what the Qu'ran teaches you. The Christian view is that God didn't cease to exist but took on a form (flesh) within His creation while still existing Holy and separate from it. The point is that God didn't compromise anything by taking on flesh. Muslims act as if the flesh dies, somehow God dies. To a Christian, that sounds so silly.
Even the Qu'ran depicts Allah as speaking through a burning bush. If you have problems with God taking on flesh, then you should have equal problems with 27:7-9:
[Mention] when Moses said to his family, "Indeed, I have perceived a fire. I will bring you from there information or will bring you a burning torch that you may warm yourselves."
But when he came to it, he was called, "Blessed is whoever is at the fire and whoever is around it. And exalted is Allah , Lord of the worlds.
O Moses, indeed it is I - Allah , the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
And [he was told], "Throw down your staff." But when he saw it writhing as if it were a snake, he turned in flight and did not return. [ Allah said], "O Moses, fear not. Indeed, in My presence the messengers do not fear.
"Therefore, I believe he would never do something to lower his attributes. Remember, this is my opinion and therefore, can be flawed."
God doesn't lower His attributes. In Christianity, God's attributes are all encompassing and are eternal--i.e., at no time are any of them suspended or nonoperational. They are always displayed in everything that God does. There is no way to separate them. Anytime God does anything, His entire being is being exercised.
I will definitely tweet and post it everywhere, you should call it Expose Muhammad Day
Thanks for clearing things up. But you did draw a wrong parallel when you said "Even the Qu'ran depicts Allah as speaking through a burning bush." Yes, but God wasn't in the burning bush according to muslim belief. God was still in his throne over heaven.
And about this expose the Muhammad (pbuh) day David wood. I hope you bring up some of these points in the next debate against hopefully sami zaatari or bassam zawadi. You will probably bring up the same points you have brung up for years, unless you have been hiding some of your findings. You can plot and plan all you want David, But Allah (swt) is the best of planners.
Samater Mohammad: You mentioned that Allah was not in the burning bush but still on his throne. What makes you come to that conclusion?
Do you believe He was performing a ventriloquism of sorts?
Why would he do such a thing?
Are you also conceding that Allah is not omnipresent?
Samatar Mohamed said...
Thanks for clearing things up. But you did draw a wrong parallel when you said "Even the Qu'ran depicts Allah as speaking through a burning bush." Yes, but God wasn't in the burning bush according to muslim belief. God was still in his throne over heaven."
Perhaps you think that it is the wrong parallel because of your beliefs. The fact is that Allah entered into his creation in order to communicate with Musa. From the passage (27:7-10), it clearly states that Allah was within the fire, or at least at the fire and Musa was around it.
Blessed is whoever is at the fire and whoever is around it. And exalted is Allah , Lord of the worlds.
Allah's presence is confirmed in ayat 10 with this reply: [ Allah said], "O Moses, fear not. Indeed, in My presence the messengers do not fear.
So we can see that Allah was present at or in the fire and Mohammad was present outside of it; therefore, Allah entered creation in some medium that only the creation normally exists in. Do you agree?
Since you agree with me in theory concerning God, while entering creation, is still outside of it, you should be able to understand what God in flesh is: Jesus. Instead of having a bush as the medium of communication, we have the flesh which was essential for our redemption from our sins upon repentance and acceptance of Jesus as our sin bearer/savior.
In regards to Jesus eating, sleeping, weeping, etc, what should you expect in the flesh? Would you expect the representation to not exhibit qualities either exactly or similar to flesh? Would you have him not go to the bathroom to relieve himself? Would you not have him to eat and drink like humans normally function? I ask this question because it should be a no-brainer that we expect similar behavior for Jesus since He took on the flesh; for if He didn't, he truly wouldn't be flesh. For Him to not eat, drink, and talk, for example, we should be shocked that He wouldn't. Don't you see my point in a logical fashion?
Thank you for your reply, Samatar Mohamed.
Personally I thought that the most effective video illustration of Muhammad's true character I ever saw was a video on youtube which is no longer available. It was posted on this site, too, and was called something like 'Egotist prophet?'. It was a cartoon of Muhammad with an Allah handpuppet and it simply quoted all the verses of the Qur'an which give special privileges to Muhammad and justifications for the more selfish of his actions.
I don't think any video, however effective, will decimate anyone's fath in Muhammad, though. One of the most glaring and obvious errors in the Qur'an is the verse which confuses Mary mother of Jesus with Miriam. Yet Muslims write this off as unimportant.
Guys.. I have been reading Kim's responses lately and to be honest, I think Kim is NOT a muslim at all!! I think he/she is an atheist and just enjoys to pretend to be a happy free Muhammad following muslim.
@Osama one more thing.
Whats funny Osama all you had to say was "Hey sorry I got to the air port late it was my fault and I missed my plane". That was it.
Instead you gave some exagerated nonsensical reason that other air lines let you show up a half hour before my flight". When a simple google search and a phone call is enough to prove that to be false.
Not only that for the last ten years it has been "SHOW UP A HOUR" before your flight. NOT A HALF HOUR.
Your like a guy I work with. He is supposed to start at 8 am. He usualy gets there around 8:30 and when he shows up on rare occasions at say 8:15 he honestly thinks he is early.
Your like the guy that calls into work sick and gives some long exagerated explination on why he is sick. When if someone was sick he would jsut say "I"m sick not coming in". YOu can always tell when some one is making things up because they always give to much information. The reason is becasue they have thought about there lie over and over again.
Obvioulsy you did not put to much thought into yours.
Samatar so what is the point of posting speculation and conjecture? This is exactly what Muslims do. Spew propaganda like Islam is peace and Islam promotes women's rights. When it is exactly the opposite.
Well the problem with Muslims revising and molding Islam into what they wish it were instead of what it truly is, is one of the greatest problems I and many have.
Most Muslims believe that Islam has similar values and attributes of the one true Biblical God. Islams Allah is exactly the opposite of Yahweh. Your God permits and condones the actions and attitudes that Yahwah considers vile and appalling. Your false prophet committed terrible atrocities in the name of God. And if you were in an Islamic backward, draconian intolerant society you might be flogged or executed for misrepresenting the attributes of your evil Allah. You should be grateful you live in a free society were you are free to spew your ignorance. Many are being persecuted for just saying the wrong thing or being accused of saying the wrong thing just because they crossed someone. Oh how evil and divisive Islam is. I can tell you that you are wrong for assuming you know what God's will is and Islams Allah is not God.
"IT'S CALLED IRRESPONSIBILITY AND NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE. SELFLESSNESS AND DECEIT!"
It's called you need to shut up and end this dead point. I already said many times before that I didn't miss the flight intentionally. It's because you're a bigot, full of hate towards Muslims, that you're refusing to accept his fact. It's your problem and not mine. United Airlines caught me off guard because they mix many of their domestic flights with international ones, which is why they denied me the electronic printing of my ticket, because I came a little less than 1/2 hour before departure. Other domestic airlines wouldn't. I fly all the time from VA to Chicago IL via SouthWest and other domestic airlines. 1/2 hour works well in non-holiday seasons.
Also Mr. bigot, have the debate been done in a much closer state, then I would've had the options to make it Saturday night! I checked and I was dead in my tracks because I wanted to fly from VA to AZ. Bad geography and distance.
And to Search 4 Truth and the other bigots in here, once you print your electronic ticket (1/2 hour before departure), the airline has no way of telling where your whereabouts are. Hopefully this will make it through your sealed brains (from all the hate towards Muslims): It's not like I wanted to print my ticket 10 minutes prior to flying. Printing the ticket 1/2 before flight is plenty enough. Once you print your ticket, you need no more checking except passing through security. Once you pass security, just walk to the airplane and fly.
Now I hope you all fly the hell away from this dead point and move on with your lives. I would've made it to the debate, even when I missed the flight, have the location been much closer.
"Guys.. I have been reading Kim's responses lately and to be honest, I think Kim is NOT a muslim at all!! I think he/she is an atheist and just enjoys to pretend to be a happy free Muhammad following muslim."
That could be the case. Regardless, anyone who sees these blog entries will hopefully get the point about Islam if they are willing to examine objectively. I normally would have dismissed Kim a long time ago by not responding to him/her at all; but, the encounter helps to sharpen my apologetics and critical thinking skills. At least one person will find this blog and be helped by these exchanges.
You cannot catch muslims on any of their arguments. They are very strong in their faith especially when they come oiled with deception. No matter from where you want to catch them your hands will slip. They are well lubricated with deceiving statements like allah teaches them.
@ Royal. Yeah thats the one. Thanks. I couldnt find it!
"United Airlines caught me off guard"
So now it's the airlines fault. When they post on their website to be there an hour to 90 minutes before departure1
And it's not about bigotry, it's about integrity. I would say the same thing to anyone of any race or religion who doesnt have integrity. Like yourself. You are warped! And your responses are evidence of that! i dont hate Muslims, I pity them, they are victims of a lie and deceit from Satan himself. I hate hate, so I hate Islam. Muslims need prayer and education. Keep talking, your digging that hole even deeper!
One more point bigot. You keep barking that airports require at least 1 HOUR of presence/check-in before flight. I had George Siege speak with the United Airlines staff himself on my cell phone, and they told him the minimum time was 1/2 hour. So why not call George and ask him?
So why not just shut the hell up and end this dead point? You're trying to prove me a liar, while you know well I am telling the Truth, only and only because you're a hateful bigot towards Muslims! So I say, just shut up and end this stupid discussion about this stupid debate and this whole stupid nonesense. I missed it and it wasn't intentional. Don't believe me? Go to hell. It's your hate and bigotry that's making you not believe me, or causing you to lie about me. It's your problem, not mine.
"You're trying to prove me a liar,"
No sir I'm not trying to prove you a liar, just a MUSLIM and your doing a good job all by yourself.
You also wrote...
"while you know well I am telling the Truth,"
I have no doubt that you showed up a half hour before your flight. I am saying that the reason you did is becasue you are either LAZY, disorganized, incompetent and or you didnt want to go to the debate in the first place and decided to show up late and use this as a excuse.
You also wrote...
"You keep barking that airports require at least 1 HOUR of presence/check-in before flight. I had George Siege speak with the United Airlines staff himself on my cell phone, and they told him the minimum time was 1/2 hour."
So let me get this straight. You say you showed up a half hour before your flight something you have done numerous times before with South West airlines.
United will not let you get on the plane becasue you showed up a half hour late.
A policy you said you did not know they had.
So tell me Osama, if Uniteds policy was to let you board the plane a half hour before flight time as you now say. Then why did they prevent you from boarding the plane?
I guess their bigoted too.
BTW, definition of a bigot...
"a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion."
I guess Allah is a bigot then since he says "Who ever has a relgion other then Islam it will never be accepted"
Also you believe what the quran teaches that you are Better then the Kuffar only becasue you are a Muslim and that I am the worst of creatures becasue I am not a Muslim.
So quit projecting yours and ALlahs bigotry on me.
@Osama tell you what you can settle this whole thing. Just tell me the name of the hotel or motel you were going to stay at.
I will call them and see if you were infact booked for a room during the times you say you where and when and if you canceled your reservations.
Search 4 Truth: Did you catch my follow-up point regarding the hadith about Allah's descending which is that it implies either a flat earth or that Allah is doing a Mexican wave?
Royal. Oh Yeah I did. It's awesome, logical,linear, and accurate. Do you think you will get a logical, linear, accurate response from a Muslim?
Absolutely not! Even one that claims to be a Doctor couldn't explain this one.
LOL, like Dr. White says - we're still waiting for that consistent Muslim...
It is also interesting to note in this Hadith that Allah is asking if there is anyone to invoke Him in prayer.
I'm wondering.... who is He talking to?
Why is He asking these questions?
Why does He come to the nearest heaven to ask these questions?
Since Muslims accuse Jesus of not being omniscient simply for asking a question (who touched me?) would it not follow that Allah is not all-knowing, and that He needs to descend in order to see things, such as invocation by prayer?
Osama: "I wanted to come and couldn't due to bad luck with the airline."
I was under the impression that Muslims believe in Qadr, but here is a Muslim who believes that his travel plans were thwarted by luck.
Radical Moderate: "Do you know what Hotel or Motel Osama was going to stay at? I wonder if he even had a hotel room reserved?"
I'm beginning to wonder if he even purchased an airline ticket.
I wont call your alibi, I called United airlines and spoke to them. I told them I had just a carry on and asked when I should be there prior to the flight, even with an easy check in. And they said to be there 60 minutes prior to the flight! And then I asked is there any way I could come any earlier than 60 minutes, and she responded that you must be their that early for security purposes. And yes I said it was a domestic flight, carry on, and an easy check in that can be performed 34 hours before and be done on line1
EasyCheck-in Online call united.com customer support at 1-800-589-5582
Any more lies Osama?
Are you here to just spew nonesense and quote agents who have nothing to do with local airports, or are you here to the real facts? Even in your conversation, the agent never said to you that you'll be denied entrance if you come less than an hour, did she? And why don't you speak with George Siege, who spoke with the agent, and she told him that the minimum time is 1/2 hour? And why don't you call United Airlines at Dulles Airport, in Virginia, and talk to them yourself?
You continue to call me a liar out of your bigotry and hate towards Muslims. You're an empty and desperate bigot who has nothing but desperate hate and absurdity. You quote recommendations from airlines and you use them as "evidence" to support your empty and false accusations. I say, why don't you speak with your brother George Siege regarding this? Plus, I am sure there are many christians on this board who checked in less than 1 hour before their flights, in the past, ESPECIALLY when they had no check-in luggage (only carry-ons). Perhaps David Wood and Sam Shamoun did, which would really be a big hilarious blow for you. You are far too silly and ignorant about airports. And the agents that you spoke with are nothing but human-robots reading off of computer screens. LOL.
If there is truly one thing good that came out of this experience, for me, it was the exposition of the hate and bigotry that many of the christians on this board have towards Muslims. You truly and genuinely hate us. This is an indisputable fact. So I am really glad that this point was at least exposed clearly to me and to everyone.
So again dumb bigot, why not speak with George Seige about what the United Airlines agent at Dulles Airport told him, and why not ask your brothers David and Sam and also George about if they checked in ***at least*** one hour before departure, not just arriving at the airport. I am talking printing their tickets after they stood in line at least 1 hour before flight, not just arriving at the airport 1 hour before flight. Deal?
Let's see what a total ass they'll make out of you here.
Osama: "David, maybe you should state that those five debates were only for two weekends; this past weekend that I missed, and the one that you were boycotted on."
Moot point. The only thing that really matters is that you were scheduled to speak at FIVE debates which you never showed up for.
Osama: "60 minutes to 24 hours check-in? I say, why don't you be the jackass of all of America, and bring your body 24 hours before your flight, right at the gate, the next time you want to fly from one US-State to another. Ok buddy?"
If anyone should be called a "jack ass" it should be you for showing up at the airport "a little less than 1/2 hour before departure" to print a ticket when the minimum check-in time requirement for United Airline customers not checking bags on flights within the U.S. is 30 minutes.
Osama: "Everyone in the country, who flies in its airports, knows that you can board domestic flights 1/2 hour before departure."
According to the online information provided by United Airlines, check in for a domestic flight must be completed at least 30 minutes before the scheduled time of departure, but the boarding time for a domestic flight begins 15 minutes prior to the scheduled time of departure.
Osama: "Printing the ticket 1/2 before flight is plenty enough. Once you print your ticket, you need no more checking except passing through security. Once you pass security, just walk to the airplane and fly."
So you already knew all of this and STILL missed your flight! You could have checked in from home anywhere between 24 hours to 30 minutes before your scheduled flight and would have had your boarding pass waiting for you when you arrived, yet you arrived at the airport LESS than 30 minutes before your scheduled flight to print your ticket.
If this doesn't qualify you to be labeled a "jack ass", I don't know what does.
Hi Kim... I know you are a goode man, with honeste and intelligent intentions... so, please:
can you give us a list -- and not a redirection to other Internet site -- off the contents presented in teh qur'an thate previous religous books did not present? I'm sure you'll make an honest efford to do so...
Please give your warmest and dearest congratulations to my website for now accquiring www.christianity.us.com. May it further the propagation of Islam and further destroy the falsehood of the man-made trinity. Ameen.
David Wood, it looks like you're a "1/2 hour" late from posting your promised video ;). Hahahahaha. Did you miss your flight? :\), or did you like me "run away" and became a "coward" as you and your buddies here called me? Hehehehehe.
You're probably saying in your minds: "We hate you Osama!!!!! :)" Hehehehehe, I say I love you too!!!!!! :)
I know that you're son is ill, and perhaps this is why you got delayed from posting your video. I hope whole heartedly he gets well, brother. I honestly and sincerely don't carry hate towards other, including the Jews. I just hope that we can all be peaceful with each others.
I belong to the following Muslims:
[060:008] Allah does not forbid you to be just and righteous towards those who did not go into battle against you, and did not expel you from your homes. Deal with them justly. Allah loves those who are just.
An infidel/disbeliever who is not hostile to me is a fellow human being who deserves all the peace and JUSTICE from me.
I checked out your newly aquired website, and all I can say is that I hope, hope, hope that Muslims use your material for argueing with Christians on Soda Head, Yahoo Answers, and etc.
As I have stated before, I do not hate Muslims. I pity them. Because they are victims of the lies and propaganda of people like yourself who are willfully ignorant. And your Prophet and Satanic Allah commands you to hate and subjugate or kill all of us1 So you can stop spewing your prison psychology! we are not falling for it.
Now he minimizes the people who work for the airlines by saying they are robots. It seems it's everyone's fault but Osamas!
I love Muslims, I hate evil, so I must hate Islam. It's as simple as that!
I judge people by the content of their character. of which you lack. So I do not like you, but i DO NOT HATE YOU, You are dishonest in your website and you cannot even be responsible for missing a half a dozen debates. It's everyone elses fault. Maybe Satan (Allah) didnt want you to go to the debate because he knew Dr. David and Sam would expose him again!
And that is an interesting point. I thought everything was from Allah, so your Allah didnt want you to go. LOL! Satan was hiding!
Where did David give a specific time/ You said he is late. It is still Friday. See this is why people dislike you. You are dishonest and have no integrity! It's apparent in everything you do.
I am not sure what your comment really means, lol, but thank you! Right now, if you google "Christianity" in google, then you'll see my www.QuranSearch.com on the 5th page. I am the only Muslim website that ever came close to the 1st page. My site sometimes ranks in the 4th page, and rarely the 3rd page. HOpefully insha'Allah, with this new website, I'll help the site to push to page #1. There are far more Christians visiting my site than Muslims, I believe. Insha'Allah, I will work hard to spread Islam to mankind.
By the way, I am also the owner of www.foxnoise.org :). I am after the racist and bigot FOX News channel, the channel of the confederate Red Necks, the Don Imus', the Rush Limbas (the 800 pound gorilla), the Sean Hannities, and on and on and on from hateful and racist bigots. I am going to create a special page for that racist channel on my site and have the visitors be routed to it. The page will be full of great links that expose the racism of that racist news channel.
We're moving to NYC soon, insha'Allah, and you'll find me at that racist news channel's door step on weekends, insha'Allah with a big sign of my site: www.foxnoise.org.
Islam is not a race. Its an evil, backward, intolerant, fascist, bigoted ideology that commands it's followers to subjugate or kill all non Muslims!
More ignorance from Osama!
You continue to dig that pit even bigger.
"Are you here to just spew nonesense and quote agents who have nothing to do with local airports,"
I gave you a link to Southwest Airlines site that has all the LOCAL airports it services. CAN YOU SHOW ME ONE OF THOSE FROM THAT LIST THAT LETS YOU CHECK IN A HALF HOUR BEFORE YOUR FLIGHT????
You continue on with....
"You continue to call me a liar out of your bigotry and hate towards Muslims. You're an empty and desperate bigot who has nothing but desperate hate and absurdity."
Speaking just for me I'M NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR, JUST A MUSLIM. Second the only one who is spewing hatred is you demonstrating the bigotry of ISLAM. Third the only one who is being absurd is you. Expecting us to believe when all the facts and evidence and well just common sense says you are wrong. Oh thats right your a Muslim so things like facts, evidence and common sense mean nothing to you as long as you have "TONS OF PICTURES OF DRIED FIG TREE BRANCHES and TONS OF PICTURES FROM NASSA". Hey what ever happend to the 90 foot ADAM LOL.
You then continue with...
" You quote recommendations from airlines and you use them as "evidence" to support your empty and false accusations."
So the AIRLINE RECOMENDS that you show up a hour and at some airports, 90 min to 2 hours before your flight. You read that and say HMMMM I CAN SHOW UP A HALF HOUR BEFORE. LOL
I guess when your buying milk or eggs for your family you look at the expiration date and say "Oh those are only recomendations" lol.
Osama the best part is that you first said that United Airlines had a policy that you were not aware of that would not allow you to bord your flight if you showed up a half hour before the flight. You then say that George Sage will confirm that United Airlines policy is to allow you to board your flight if you show up a half hour before your flight.
SO tell us again why did they bar you from bording your flight?
Just the 5th page? Do you realize people will go to to maybe the first three pages on a google search and why would they want to go to a site that is islamic when they're looking for 'CHRISTIANITY'.
You may own and maintain websites, but you do not have lock, stock and barrel on google. Google measures website clicks, counts and links to other websites. Data is reshuffled constantly based on these and algorythims to pull results.
You may be fifth now, but that will probably change to something less than that because it's not relevant to googles search.
Osama, you don't know what I mean?
Let me explain. If and when Muslims attempt to use the arguements you supply for them, it will be easy to blow these arguements out of the water.
That doesn't mean that I disrespect or don't care for you. It is only that your arguements are very easy to deflect.
Which is why Muslim arguements are so short lived. They start with some arguement which they feel is irrefutable, such as "Where does Jesus state that He is God?" That is such an easy answer. Then they go to the Old Testament and find a passage which they state is a prophesy of Mecca. By making them read the rest of the chapter in context, they have been forced to admit that the passage was far from discussing Mohammad, or Mecca. And that the passage was in fact a Messianic prophesy of Jesus.
--That time was classic.
After a few go-arounds, they either block me, which I consider a victory, or won't reply anymore--even though they were the first to begin a dialogue, and seemed interested to begin with.
When I reviewed your arguements, I found nothing whatsoever that wouldn't be easy to turn around and use against them. As I stated, I truely hope that they turn to you for advice on arguing with me.
What I hope, is that your website gives them just enough confidence to engage me. Then when they do, I take the opportunity to demonstrate from scripture, or historical records that their arguement is false. Whether or not they ever reply to me, they have the knowledge, that their arguements against Christianity and for Islam are false and not sound logic.
Of course, if you argue with a Muslim you are a bigot and racist.
Oh great Osama. So now you are after FOX News as well. Wow thats a lot of hatred for FOX News there. Hey actually, i have a suggestion for you Osama. If you are so curious and keen to spread the word of Islam and you really wana show how peaceful the religion of Islam is, then how about you do all of us a HUGE favor my friend...how about you spread the so called "peaceful" religion in places like Pakistan where every day, some MUSLIM BLOWS HIMSELF IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. I guarantee you Osama, if you preach the selective "peaceful" verses from your Quran, those Jihadists will preach the Jihad verses FROM THE SAME QURAN THAT YOU READ, TO YOU! So basically, Mohammad left ALL of you Muslims with a GREAT DILEMMA. You can believe or not believe what you want from the Quran. In either cases, you will be contradicting yourselves. How about Egypt where there are similar things happening. Muslims are killing Christians, burning their homes and towns, raping Christian girls and looting them. I used to live in Saudi Arabia and brother tell you what....am i glad to get out of that HELL HOLE!! You turn on their news channel, all you will hear is that today, the king visited blah blah, you'll hear about the weather, the camel race and soccer. You will NEVER hear anything about any incidents that may have occured such as how a Christian woman was rapped by the police there when she got arrested for driving a car to the pharmacy to get meds for her husband. Spain, where MUSLIMS are killing dogs. Same kinda things are happening in ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES where MUSLIMS are persecuting Christians like MAD DOGS!!! Burning churches, raping girls and women, burning houses and towns, suicide bombing, looting and so much more. Osama, you my friend are fighting a losing battle. You say that you just want Christians and Muslims to live in peace? Well so do we. The problem is, seeing whats going on in almost ALL the Muslim countries and after seeing what they are doing to Christians, I strongly believe that Christians and Muslims can not live in peace only because of your peoples behaviors. Go spread your word out to your MUSLIM brethren in the above mentioned countries. They truely need you there.
Osama said: "May it further the propagation of Islam and further destroy the falsehood of the man-made trinity. Ameen."
Osama, I told you years ago how incredibly disorganized your website is. While you have spent time getting new links to your site, you have done nothing to improve anything around there; it still reflects your chaotic mind. So why don't you be a peach and send me what you consider to be your best article attacking the Trinity. If Sam has not already pulverized the article, then I will be happy to respond and send your arguments back to the pit from which they sprang. Thanks.
Hi Osama the Great Abdallah...
whats up with the site you acquired? still full off lies as all your other sites? to me is strange how someone wantes to destroy whatever withe lies; false argumentations; stupidity (I'm not calling you stupide... I know you have some psychological problems -- thats allright, dont be afraid of thate... I personallie know someone who also habe those -- just sayieng thate in your sites there are enought stupiditie to cover mount Everest); ignorance...
how can you build something withe such tools?
@Osama demonstrating that you are a Muslim when you wrote...
"I am going to create a special page for that racist channel on my site and have the visitors be routed to it. The page will be full of great links that expose the racism of that racist news channel. "
Thats right dishonesty trickery and deciet all the qualites that make a good Muslim
I saw this any thought of you.
Muslim women are moral, right?
Where is the video? Sorry I am new to this. Will it be on this site or elsewhere? So looking forward to it.
I agree if the answering Christianity website is the best the Muslims have to offer, then we have absolutely nothing to worry about!
God bless you David, Sam and everybody else involved in this site.
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