Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Austrian MP Ewald Stadler Slams Turkish Ambassador

It looks like some European politicians are waking up.

6 comments:

betwixt said...

Wow, that was intense...and so on point.

Religious tolerance is a two-way street. Political correctness changed it into a one-way street in no time.

The Fat Man said...

Gave me chills, anger, contempt, disdain, disgust, sounds so much better in Austrian then it does in English :)

Traeh said...

Powerful speech. Stadler compressed quite a bit into a small space. Did you see how outraged he got when the Turkish ambassadors started complaining?

Stadler was merely channeling a genuine righteous fury that large numbers in Europe must be feeling. It's cathartic to finally experience someone representing that outrage in the political field.

Traeh said...

In core Islamic texts, Muhammad makes sacred a shame/honor culture of hypocrisy, in which the appearance of virtue is more important than virtue itself

For example in Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 95:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying. " All the sins of my followers will be forgiven except those of the Mujahirin (those who commit a sin openly or disclose their sins to the people). An example of such disclosure is that a person commits a sin at night and though Allah screens it from the public, then he [the sinner] comes in the morning, and says, 'O so-and-so, I did such-and-such (evil) deed yesterday,' though he spent his night screened by his Lord (none knowing about his sin) and in the morning he removes Allah's screen from himself."


As a commenter at another website put it, "With regard to 'sins' in the Islamic world, it seems to me that a sin is only a sin when someone finds out about it. This meshes seamlessly with the honour/shame dynamic."

"...a culture of hypocrisy in which the appearance of virtue is far more important than virtue itself."- Robert Spencer, 01/17/2011.

Just think for a moment how evil the above canonical hadith is: Muhammad says Allah will forgive all the sins of Muslims, if Muslims conceal their sins from each other. That has to be one of the most diabolical social admonitions of all time.

Sophie said...

Traeh, a German woman who lived in a poor part of Egypt for many years observed how local tradition dictated that if a sin wasn't exposed publically then it must mean Allah had forgiven it. The logic was that if Allah had kept it covered in this life then he would continue to keep it covered in the next life! That's the kind of thinking you can fall into when there is an honour/shame culture and God just forgives sin randomly and has a completely arbitrary will.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

I love this,

This is what we need I the West, political leaders, who refrain from the trap of political correction.

I guess centuries of secularism and liberalism has reduced our Western courage into virtually nothing.

That's the way to go, speak truth and expose evil and falsehood.