Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Osama Abdallah Declares: "I'll Be Enjoying My Virgins While You Christians Rot in Hell!"

The man who sees sex behind every verse in the Bible, the man who condemns Latinas for being too easy, the man who says he would skin a woman alive for sexual immorality--Yes, Osama Abdallah--boasts about the virgins he'll be having an orgy with in Paradise. Well, if sex is such an essential part of Islamic paradise, and if heaven is nothing more than an eternal orgy, why would Osama condemn people for getting a taste of heaven right here on earth? Here he goes:

And VJ, I'll take all of the virgins, dude. I'll enjoy 100% of the bliss of Heaven from all dimensions and all directions and all benefits, while you ROT IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.

I am not ashamed of my beautiful Islam. On the contrary, I am very proud of It, and I thank Allah Almighty days and nights endlessly that He Created me a Muslim, from Muslim upbringing and parents and family and background, and not created me from infidels' background. I know that I would've eventually became a Muslim by Allah Almighty's Will, but still, being a Muslim 100% all of my life is a MEDAL OF HONOR FOR ME, AND IS VERY VERY PRECIOUS AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

So rot in Hell buddy. Keep mocking the Truth and follow the blind. You are another blind one. So I'll let the blind lead the blind.

37 comments:

Osama Abdallah said...

David Wood,

You're too funny. By the way, I removed that post from the previous thread because I felt that I was a bit harsh on VJ, while he didn't seem to fully deserve it.
It was removed before you created this thread. I just want to make this clear for the record.

As to the bible and the porn in it, there is ample of that, including INCESTUOUS FANTASIES (brothers and sisters fantasizing about sex with each others), and the bible sings praises about it: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Osama Abdallah said...

All,

Please visit: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6590312557191237519&postID=5973313006687776435
to see my proofs about Heaven in the bible being physical. I've demonstrated that:

1- Adam and Eve, peace be upon them, were created with physical bodies and forms, and had the private parts of reproduction. And have they not been kicked out of Heaven, then all of humanity today would've been created in Heaven and currently enjoying the Bliss of Heaven and Benefits from all dimensions, all directions and all benefits.

2- In the bible and other old scriptures, ENOCH, EZRA AND SEVERAL OTHERS were taken up to Heaven and remained there IN THEIR PHYSICAL BODIES. This is another proof that Heaven in the bible is physical, and our physical bodies that we know them today exist, or similar ones to them, exist in Heaven.

Therefore, there is no question that sex exists in the bible's Heaven.

Please visit http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
for more details, ample verses, and proofs.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Fernando said...

Osama... your attempt to say teh Song of Songs portrait incestuous relationships has been debucled soooo many times in this blog... boring...

Ilena said...

osama seems to be just too obsessed with sex. and he sees sex on the each second page of the bible. it aint so hard to figure out why the bible is his favourite piece of literature ;)


p.s. i know he was honest when he said this thing abt 72 virgins. still i aint sure if mo was precise enuff to let muslims know if 72 virgin boys or girls r awaiting them in paradise (bordello). i just dont want that osama gets very disappointed in the end.

Tania said...

"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks".-Luke 6:45

You know.. I was a bit weary clicking onto this gross man's site, but I was curious to see what verses this man perverted. And despite what my better judgement was telling me, I clicked on it. And guess what? A blank white page popped up, which is a bit of a relief to me. I was expecting to find a virus (as others warned), or a long post of his nasty beliefs. But no, just a blank page.

Phew!

ubiquitouserendipity said...

dear brothers david and nabeel:

i have a request of you two, which i believe is well-founded. my request is that you discontinue the policy of allowing for others to use active links to sites, (in osama's case read: virus laden), to engage in argumentation. if what one has to say is substantial in its objections, and proofs available, then i believe that the person should be required to present their argumentation on this blog,,, which i have always assumed is the reason for this public, interactive blog.

if osama is SO capable of refuting the arguments presented by you and nabeel, and the many well qualified bloggers who contribute their insights here, then let him put his money where his mouth is and get busy with the business of actually refuting Christianity and presenting mohammed-worship as the true religion of G_d right here, right now.

in osama's particular case, i personally think that you are doing a disservice to lurkers and others who may happen upon this blog and then get redirected to osama's viral-laden garbage dump of a site.

osama has a history of internet terrorism, going back to at least 2001. he is obviously a spiritually sick person, and presents no evidence of human decency. with his background in computer science, and his obvious hatred of, and ignorance of "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance," there is nothing under the sun to prevent him from attempting to lure others to his site for the express purpose of furthering his mission of internet jihad.

pajamas media has a stated policy of restricting posters who violate their guidelines:

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please consider a change in policy brothers, for the sake of innocents who may be lured to such devilish sites. may G_d continue to bless and keep you both, and may your work continue to glorify the One True and Living G_d, Hashem Adonai.

dear osama abdullah: (please know that in spite of your hatefullness and un-G_dliness, no one who is a Christian would wish you to hell) may the G_d of love and light, by the power of His Holy Spirit, draw you to His Son, the Creator and sustainer of life, Jesus Christ. Peace, in His love, papajoe

KeithTruth said...

I already refuted Osama's arguments about Biblical heaven here:

http://keithtruth.blogspot.com/2009/06/osama-abdullah-epitome-of-muslim.html

Please don't use those arguments anymore osama. Secondly, if you really want to see how disgusting jannah is compared to the beautiful Biblical Heaven see this article:

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/thompson/paradise.html

VJ said...

@osama
I removed that post from the previous thread because I felt that I was a bit harsh on VJ, while he didn't seem to fully deserve it

Re post it osama, i will be happy for it.Your words are really going to make me famous on this blog...:)
lol

Matthew 5:11-12
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven,

VJ said...

@osama

i guess your only here to spam the blog with your website links.

please start your own blog..then let me spam them with AI,aomin and AnsweringMuslim,jihad watch links.
let see how you respond then...

peace
VJ

leviMichael said...

i wonder how mrs abdallah feels...

Nakdimon said...

Osama: 2- In the bible and other old scriptures, ENOCH, EZRA AND SEVERAL OTHERS were taken up to Heaven and remained there IN THEIR PHYSICAL BODIES

Osama, which of our sources say that Ezra was taken up into heaven physically?

mkvine said...

leviMichael, I didn't know Osama was married? lol

Osama Abdallah said...

David Wood,

Did you not say in your debate with Jalal Abualrub that if there is sex in Heaven then that would be cool and that you would have no problem with it?
You yourself said that you don't reject Islam because of the 72 virgins or 9/11 or anything of this sort. Why are you being a hypocrite now?

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Osama Abdallah said...

"@osama
I removed that post from the previous thread because I felt that I was a bit harsh on VJ, while he didn't seem to fully deserve it

Re post it osama, i will be happy for it.Your words are really going to make me famous on this blog...:)
lol

Matthew 5:11-12
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven,"

VJ,

The Matthew verses that you quoted are about the Jews and their rejection of Christ.
We do not reject Christ. On the contrary, it is us who accept him for what he really is and it is you who reject him for what he really is:

"Why do you call me GOOD? Jesus answered. No one is GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE!" (Mark 10:17-22)

Jesus rejected your blasphemy about making him the Creator of the Universe. Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm for thorough refutations to the man-made trinity lie and blasphemy.

Also visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm to see ample proofs about Jesus was CREATED FROM THE WORD, and he is not the actually 100% of the WORD of GOD Almighty.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

OumAmir said...

I'm starting to here the words of the great theologian Barney Fife everytime I see Osama's name.

"He's a nu-ut!"

Seriously, oy.

David Wood said...

Osama said: "You yourself said that you don't reject Islam because of the 72 virgins or 9/11 or anything of this sort. Why are you being a hypocrite now?"

When did I say I now reject Islam because of virgins or 9/11? You might want to be a bit more careful when you call people hypocrites.

I don't know if there's going to be sex in heaven or not (though I doubt there will be). Whatever the case may be, it's disgusting to proclaim a heaven where eternal erections and sex with perpetual virgins is the main draw. It says something about the founder of your religion.

Let me explain more clearly. Suppose someone says he believes in a heaven that is one giant Chinese buffet. That is, he believes he will spend eternity eating General Tso's chicken and beef fried rice. Wouldn't you suspect that such a person has an unhealthy interest in Chinese food?

Or suppose a man proclaims a heaven that is filled with alcohol and drugs. He says, "Oh man! I can't wait to get to heaven! God's going to give us all the marijuana and cocaine we want! It's going to be one non-stop party. We'll stay high forever!" Wouldn't you think such a person had an unhealthy interest in drugs and alcohol?

Muhammad proclaimed a heaven that is an everlasting orgy. I think it's obvious that the founder of your religion had an unhealthy interest in sex, and his life certainly proves this. You yourself have expressed your perverse desire to have dozens of sex slaves in paradise.

Now compare this with the Christian view. We emphasize God Himself as the reason we want to be in paradise. It's clear, then, that Christians are people who have a tremendous desire to be with God.

Which religion do you think comes from God? Isn't it obvious?

Osama Abdallah said...

"Osama said: "You yourself said that you don't reject Islam because of the 72 virgins or 9/11 or anything of this sort. Why are you being a hypocrite now?"
When did I say I now reject Islam because of virgins or 9/11? You might want to be a bit more careful when you call people hypocrites."

Read my post again David. I said that you said that you DO NOT reject Islam because of the 72 virgins or 9/11 or anything of this sort.

"I don't know if there's going to be sex in heaven or not (though I doubt there will be). Whatever the case may be, it's disgusting to proclaim a heaven where eternal erections and sex with perpetual virgins is the main draw. It says something about the founder of your religion."

So your opinion is now supposed to be the measuring stick for what is True and what is false David? IS NOT THE OLD TESTAMENT FILLED WITH "DISGUSTING" THINGS SUCH AS SMASHING SUCKLING INFANTS AGAINST ROCKS? And who told you that Islam elaborates on the sex in Heaven. There are only 3 Noble Verses out of the entire Glorious Quran that is made up of 6236 Noble Verses that speak about maidens in Heaven, and even those 3 Noble Verses do not directly speak about sex. Your entire logic is absurd and opinionated much like your false man-made religion. It too is made up of opinions, conclusions and man-made laws.

"Let me explain more clearly. Suppose someone says he believes in a heaven that is one giant Chinese buffet. That is, he believes he will spend eternity eating General Tso's chicken and beef fried rice. Wouldn't you suspect that such a person has an unhealthy interest in Chinese food?"

AGAIN, THERE ARE ONLY 3 NOBLE VERSES THAT SPEAK ABOUT maidens in Heaven, and they themselves don't even speak directly about sex.

"Or suppose a man proclaims a heaven that is filled with alcohol and drugs. He says, "Oh man! I can't wait to get to heaven! God's going to give us all the marijuana and cocaine we want! It's going to be one non-stop party. We'll stay high forever!" Wouldn't you think such a person had an unhealthy interest in drugs and alcohol?

Muhammad proclaimed a heaven that is an everlasting orgy. I think it's obvious that the founder of your religion had an unhealthy interest in sex, and his life certainly proves this. You yourself have expressed your perverse desire to have dozens of sex slaves in paradise.

Now compare this with the Christian view. We emphasize God Himself as the reason we want to be in paradise. It's clear, then, that Christians are people who have a tremendous desire to be with God.

Which religion do you think comes from God? Isn't it obvious?"

Again, Islam does not brag nor elaborate about sex in Heaven. The Glorious Quran doesn't even talk about sex in Heaven. The Hadiths talked about it and briefly. IT WAS NEVER THE MAIN POINT AND PLEASURE IN ISLAM. Your lying media makes a big deal out of it because they are liars and desperate. But in Islam it is a very minor thing.

Also David, why should there be shamed, and why should you be "disgusted" by Allah Almighty enabling sex in Heaven? Did He, the Almighty, not create the ganitals, semens, sperms, eggs, overies and wombs? Why should Heaven be free from things that Allah Almighty Created for our reproduction? In Heaven, we will reproduce. That is why we also have MALES AND FEMALS in Heaven.

The bottom line here David is that you are opinionated. You are used to this and it is ok with you, because you follow the false religion of CONJECTURE, as Allah Almighty called christianity in Noble Verse 4:157.

I am glad though that you have assured us that you do not reject Islam due to the 72 virgins or 9/11. I am glad that you misread my post and reassured us that you would have no problem with a physical Paradise that has legal sex in it. This should silence your buddies here and their nonsense.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Osama Abdallah said...

Also David Wood, in Islam, we are taught that the MOST PLEASURE IN PARADISE is:

1- Bowing down to Allah Almighty in Prostration directly to Him.

2- Having our houses be near Allah Almighty and His Presence.

Read Pharoah's wife's story in the Glorious Quran and her prayer and what Allah Almighty Said about to learn some real Truth here.

It is not the vaginas that we are most concerned with. Like I mentioned in the previous post, the Glorious Quran didn't even directly speak about sex in Heaven with the maidens, directly.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Fernando said...

Osama sid: «in Islam, we are taught that the MOST PLEASURE IN PARADISE is: 1- Bowing down to Allah Almighty in Prostration directly to Him. 2- Having our houses be near Allah Almighty and His Presence»...

#1: how can a malle muslim be in prostration in islams' eaven iff he has an eternal arousal? only iff he's prostrating withe is bottom down...

#2: starnge religion this one where one wants to bee near his horse in heaben... really strange...

Sepher Shalom said...

I think it´s pretty obvious that Osama has done a mental "duck-and-cover" on this blog.

There are clear signs of his complete frustration in his lack of ability to mount a meaningful response.

Poor poor soul. I pray for his Salvation, and that he will come to know the true living Yeshua.

rodem said...

First off, he says he will be enjoying his virgins - is allah a pimp? Secondly, only a handful of muslim women will be there... Thus, would that make Mohammad's paradice a brothel? Is this what allah is offering these men??? heaven or eternal hell? Meanwhile, it seems, the rest of us will be going where all the good people and majority of muslim women will be - I like to call it - "Home" ...

The Fat Man said...

What i find intersting about the Muslim idea of paradise, is the fact that of all the things they could imagine doing in the presence of the allmighty GOD. Their only concern, is will they have a working penis.

I dont know what heaven is going to be like, but I can assure you that standing in the presence, of the allmighty God will be enough for me. I'm not even going to think of my penis, and trust me thats acutaly saying a lot.

The following is a fictious conversation between me, and a muslim in front of the allmighty God.

Muslim "Hey fatman come over here, check this out we got virgins.

ME "thats nice but look at HIM look at his radiance look at his glory."

Muslim "Oh come on fatman how long you going to marvel at the majesty and power of the all mighty GOD, come and try a virgin just one"

Me "No thanks I am in AWE at just being in the presence of the ALL MIGHTY GOD"

Muslim "Come on man how long you going to be in awe of his splendor check out these virgins they are the 'Easist to BANG'"

Me "I said no thanks I would rather be in his presence worhiping him in his power, glory and radiance then be with 72 virgins"

Muslim "Ok well when you get bored of worshiping him in his presence in his glory in his power, and in his radiance. Then you know where to find me. Oh come on man just take a break from all that woshiping and come and get you a virgin"

The conversation pretty much goes down hill from there.

The Fat Man said...

A few months ago I saw a news story on one of the brave mujhadeen from Candada. The one who is on trial for murder of a US serviceman. He was 15 when he commited the murder.

Anyway they were interviewing his motehr and sister, and they were talking about the Virgins in allahs paradise. what will they look like? Will they really be virgins forever etc...

Well the mother and sister use to tell them to "Shut up already enough about the virgins"

I wonder what this says to the Muslima's that there husnands want their virgins so much that thier will to go and die to get them.

kirklangsea said...

I have a question, maybe someone can answer it. I didn't have time to go through all the posts, but the topic interested me.

I have heard so much condemnation of how westerners dress and experienced it in other countries. Which I agree with, perhaps not to the same extent. But I do find it hard to focus and not think perverse thoughts when women dress so loosely these days. I understand the disdain.

When I was in UAE, I was very aware of the cultural modesty. It was actually quite refreshing to know when I walked around I was not gonna see scantily clad women.

Likewise, my girlfriend, as modest as she dresses, bless her, while in Egypt she felt very scandelous for showing even her hair. That is the culture, their belief, their choice and I respect that. It respects me and my mind. My GF, by the way, agreed that it was not wrong, just different.

What I find interesting though is the contrast in how Good Muslims are to live in this life compared to how they are going to enjoy eternity. The righteousness of modesty and holy living, being faithful to your wife, not being a drunk... But your heaven is the ultimate rebellion of this holiness. It is a sin on earth, yet in the holiest of places, heaven, where God dwells, sexual ecstasy, alcoholic ecstasy is what will be lived out. Why then is it wrong here in this life?

It seems to me that the pleasures offered in the afterlife only satisfy a debase and impure earthly mind. Here our root fleshly mentality is to seek glandular ecstasy... And I assume we both would agree that we are not to follow those impulses.

That is where the teaching of our flesh and spirit wage war against each other. This is from Jesus. From His teaching we gather that our flesh will never be satisfied and the goal of eternity is not to satisfy our fleshly desires of sexual escapades, but rather to glorify God.

Not that sex is wrong, for indeed God made us very peculiarly, genitalia and all... But sex is not a needed thing. Sex is not love, though God said it should be saved for the marriage bed, where there is total trust, exclusivity, intimacy, and Love. Love that cares for the other. Love that sacrifices for the other.

That is why I don't see multiple sexual relations as coming from a holy God for eternity... It is trying to place debase sexual fantasy into a pure setting, and it's just not pure in it's substance.

I would like to have some thoughts and hear what those Muslims and Non-Muslims reading would have to say.

Yahya Snow said...

kirklangsea...

I was wondering where you were going with that :)

I found your post interesting to read. I am a Muslim and have wrote an article defending the Muslim version of Paradise. Do read it and perhaps it will add something to your understanding. Thanks.


http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2009/10/sex-in-muslim-paradise.html

May Allah help us all to have a nice day. ameen

In Hoc Signo Vinces said...

Osama after reading some of your comments I have to wonder what your “upright parents” did to raise such a vile misogynist cretin who admits to wanting to beat women and demonizes all Latin American women as whores.

Im sure telling people they will rot in hell for eternity will get you many followers. Are you stealing your tactics from fundamentalist street preachers or something? lol
It just goes to show how Islam has given you a loving and caring nature for us kafir swine.

But I can tell you, you wont be getting any virgins, The truth is that Jannah your heaven does not exist and you are not going there. Your entire heaven was plagiarized by Mohammad from a cycle of hymns called “hymns on paradise”, by a 4th century saint St Ephrem the Syrian. 300 years before your prophet Mohammad, St Ephrem described heaven as a garden filled with trees with fruit ranged for the hand to pick, under which the faithful recline, there are shades, fountains and springs, rivers of wine, milk , honey and cream, there is a celestial wine and it literally says those who have not drunk wine on earth will drink it in heaven and those who remained a virgin on earth will be welcomed in the bosoms of women. These hymns event talk about the exalted status of martyrs. Sound familiar? It is clear Mohammad appropriated his Jannah from St Ephrem.


And in case you think im lying here’s proof

Hymn II
"8. Who is capable of gazing upon the Gardens splendor, seeing how glorious it is in all its design, how harmonious in its proportions, how spacious for those who dwell there, how radiant with its abodes? Its fountains delight with their fragrance"


Hymn VI
"11. The diligent carry their own fruits and now run forward to meet Paradise as it exults with every sort of fruit. They enter that Garden with glorious deeds and it sees that the fruits of the just surpass in their excellence the fruits of its own trees, and that the adornment of the victorious outrival its own. 12. Happy indeed is the person accounted worthy to behold in Paradise the glorious fruits of the trees."


Hymn VII
"3. Bear up, O life of mourning, so that you may attain to Paradise; its dew will wash off your squalor, while what it exudes will render you fragrant; its support will afford rest after your toil, its crown will give you comfort, it will proffer you fruits in your hunger, fruits that purify those who partake of them; in your thirst it will provide for you a celestial draught, one that makes wise those who drink it.

In Hoc Signo Vinces said...

"18. The man who abstained, with understanding, from wine, will the vines of paradise rush out to meet, all the more joyfully as each one stretches out and proffers him its clusters; or if any has lived a life of virginity, him too they welcome into their bosom, for the solitary such as has never lain in any bosom nor upon any bosom nor upon any marriage bed. 19. Those who have been crowned for our Lord's sake with the martyr's death by the sword shine out in glory there with their crowns
because their bodies despised the persecutors fire. Like stars they do blossom in Paradise."

"26. And if none who is defiled enter that place allow me to live by its enclosure residing in the shade."


Hymn IV

"3. Should you wish to climb up a tree, with its lower branches it will provide steps before your feet, eager to make you recline in its bosom above, on the couch of its upper branches. So arranged is the surface of these branches, bent low and cupped, while yet dense with flowers that they serve as a protective womb for whoever rests there 4. Who has ever beheld such a banquet in the very bosom of a tree, with fruit of every savor ranged for the hand to pluck.


Each type of fruit in due sequence approaches, each awaiting its turn: fruit to eat, and fruit to quench the thirst; to rinse the hands there is dew, and leaves to dry them with after- a treasure store which lacks nothing, whose Lord is rich in all things 5. Around the tree the air is limpid as the saints recline; below them are blossoms, above them are fruit; fruits serve as their sky, flowers as their earth. Who has ever heard of or seen a cloud of fruits providing shade for the head, or a garment of flowers spread out beneath the feet? 6. Such is the flowing brook of delights that, as one tree takes leave of you, the next one beckons to you; all of them rejoice that you should partake of the fruit of one and suck the juice of another, wash and cleanse yourself in the dew of yet a third; anoint yourself with the resin of one and breath another's fragrance, listen to the song of still another. Blessed is he who gave joy to Adam!

Who has ever reclined and enjoyed himself without anyone slaving away? Who has eaten to satisfaction without any food, or who has drunk and become merry without any drink?..Who has ever experienced delight in this way, eating without employing his hands, drinking without using his mouth? As both a cupbearer and baker do these breezes act.

Hymn X

"6. There the abundant flow of their produce is ceaseless for each bears its own fruit, its neighbor, flowers. There the spring of delights open up and flow with wine, milk, honey and cream.




Hymn XI
" 1. The air of Paradise is a fountain of delight from which Adam sucked when he was young; its very breath, like a mother's breast, gave him nourishment in his childhood... 2. No harmful frost, no scorching heat is to be found in that

In Hoc Signo Vinces said...

11 What need was there from that land a river should flow forth and divide itself except that the blessings of Paradise should be mingled by the means of water as it issues forth to irrigate the world, making clean its fountains.

12. Thus but us with another spring, full of perfumes which issue from Eden and penetrates into the atmosphere as a beneficial breeze by which our souls are stirred; our inhalation is healed by this healing breath from Paradise;


Hymn XV

"All this and similar things that I have read in the scriptures, have helped depict in my mind that Garden of Life; blessed is the person who is worthy to attain its enjoyment. May the Merciful One bring me to its fruits,


so please explain n to me how a description of heaven exactly like your Koran was written by St Ephrem the Syrian? Are these hymns a previous revelation? Was he a prophet of Allah ? was he guided by Allah ? well if he was guided by Allah he wasn’t guided very well because he was an orthodox Trinitarian who wrote heavily against unorthodox heresies. And if his hymns are previous revelation please show me 1 place where st ephrem is named in the Koran as a prophet and please explain to me why even st ephrem doesn’t believe heaven is actually like this his hymns weren’t meant to be taken seriously . he even says this is own interpretation based upon reading about the garden of Eden in genesis and never hints to divine revelation


It is clear that your jannah was appropriated by Mohammad from a the fanciful poetry of a Syrian saint and it does not exist.

If you want to learn about more spurious Christian fairytales in the Koran go to

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3718&sid=d8839cc61334196add6188abc4adba68

Fernando said...

Only a drunker woulde defend a paradise who's gibing free boose... to sad to see people still trying to defend, eben with false argumentations thate are too afraide to present here publiquely for a franquely debate, the indefensable... butt at least the Holy Spirit was nott attacked this time...

In Hoc Signo Vinces said...

Hi fernanado I read that osama abdullah made his hateful about Latin women solely because he assumed you were Latin because of your name. Whilst the Spanish did rule the Philippines and you might have some Latin blood way back such assumptions followed by generalizations against all Latin women reveal his depraved and arrogant nature.

As I have already proven the Muslim heaven is appropriated from some 4th century Christian hymns and does not exist. Mr abddullah will be enjoying no virgins or alcohol there

Lothair Of Lorraine said...

Allah's whorehouse seems like a bigger blast than that summer I spent in Mexico! Muhammad/Allah were a couple of perverts. I think there is less deviance and purience in the backstreets of Tijuana.

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Oh...about the 'expression' part...i got the words mixed up...here is the correction I think:

"The psalms is expressed as a word of God through David, the word manifest in flesh."

INSTEAD OF

"David is a word of God, and David is EXPRESSED as a word of God through the Psalms."

Oh, what the heck, just look at my reasoning throughout and you will get the picture yourselves.

I will treat Muslims and Christians with respect on this forum. Please respect me too.

Osama Abdullah...I respect your works, I am a huge fan of your site, please don't have an immature approach though...i know some Christians on this site have acted immature too by looking at their comments.

I was shocked that the people writing comments were not 13 years old...because their words are so immature.

I am 17, I want to give people respect so their hearts feel good. You are all religious in this site, which makes me even happier to act respectful because you all are spiritual people whatever religion you are from.

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Paul Guralivu said...

To t_a_s:

Mr. T_a_s your losing trying to divert from what the Quran is actually saying and what Islam is teaching.

In Surah 4:171 Muhammad is calling Jesus "Kalimatuhu"(Word of Allah). We also know that Kalimatuhu is uncreated therefore eternal=>Jesus is eternal.

More to the matter, let's analize the text from Surah 4:171:

‘Alqaa’ means “to throw, cast, fling, offer, commit, or convey”. This meaning of the physical throwing or casting of an object is strongly reflected in the story of
Moses when he threw a rod “Then (Moses) threw[alqa] his rod[‘asa], and behold! it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)! [Faalqa AAasahu fa-itha hiya thuAAbanun mubeenun]” Surah 7:107 “(God) said, `Throw[alqi] it, O Moses!’ [Qala alqiha ya moosa] He threw[alqa] it, and behold! It was a snake, active in motion. [Faalqaha fa-itha hiya hayyatun tasAAa].” Surah 20:20,21 “So (Moses) threw[alqa] his rod [‘asa], and behold, it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)! [Faalqa AAasahu fa-itha hiya thuAAbanun mubeenun] “ Surah 26:32 “Moses said to them:`Throw[alqoo] ye - that which ye are about to throw!’ [Qala lahum moosa alqoo ma antum mulqoona] Then Moses threw[alqa] his rod[asa], when, behold, it straightway swallows up all the falsehoods which they fake! [Faalqa moosa AAasahu fa-itha hiya talqafu ma ya/fikoona] “ Surah 26:44.45

Before one can throw an object, that object must have existed in the first place. Hence, His Word[Kalimatuhu] and also called Spirit[Ruhu min hu] must also be in existence before Jesus was conceived in Mary’s womb. Jesus as Kalimat and Ruh existed with God before he was born !

Surah 4:171
Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqaha ila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo biAllahi warusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahoo khayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidun subhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee al-ardi wakafa biAllahi wakeelan.

This is my argument against Muslim argument that Jesus was created when God said "Be!".

Please refute it.

Paul.

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