Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Did Christmas Come From Paganism?




I know we are past the holiday season, but here is the next video in the series on Christmas. In this video I answer the question of whether Christmas came from paganism or non-Christian sources.

24 comments:

Elena Everett said...

If the so-called Christian Christmas is not of a pagan origin, then why the so-called Christians do the exact opposite of what the Word of God told us not to do? Jeremiah 10:1-5 (all verses presented from Authorized KJV) "1.Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2.Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3.For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5.They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."


If "Thus said the LORD" not to bring trees and not to decorate them, then why would the so-called Christians do it despite this command, and the most horrible thing is that they do it to commemorate the birth of the LORD JESUS? If you noticed in verse 3 the LORD said that cutting the tree from the wood is a vain custom so considering that all that God lables as "in vain" means not from Him, but from paganism, Christmas is a pagan holiday.

Nowhere in the Bible we see celebrating of birthdays as a divinely endorsed command, otherwise we would have known the birth dates of major patriarchs, and of the LORD JESUS Himself. Have you ever noticed that the LORD did not provide the birth dates and hid them from us, while giving specific dates, such as the start and the end of flood in Noah's time to know the duration of Biblical month, the date the decree to rebuild Jerusalem came forth to calculate the start and the end of Daniel's 2300 day's prophecy, and so on?


About to finish my argument: if the so-called Christian church tried to figure out the birth date of the LORD JESUS then they did a very poor job: the LORD JESUS warned His followers in Matthew 24:20 “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day”. HE knew the harsh weather conditions during the winter season in His country so did those shepherds who spend the night in the field with their flocks to see the star appearing to them. This means that they could not spend the night in the open during the winter season. Therefore, HE was born in flesh long before that.

Lastly: if the birth of Christ is to be celebrated in the way that we bring the green tree and place gifts to each other under it, then why would the so-called wise men who followed that star did not cut the green tree, did not decorate it, and did not give gifts to each other and their loved ones, but gave them directly to the LORD JESUS? Why do you celebrate the birth of God who in reality is everlasting and has no birth date like us humans? (Psalm 93:2 "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting" and Micah 5:2 "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting).

Can anyone answer my questions or tell me where I am wrong?

Tony Costa said...

All your questions will be answered in the videos that will follow in this series.

Amin said...

Was Jesus born on 25th December / Christmas Day?

Is Christianity a pagan religion?

Elena Everett said...
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Elena Everett said...

Amin,

I have to greatly disappoint you because your book contradicts not only the Bible, which it claims to confirm, but also contradicts itself, presents insane statements, and your 'prophet' made insane claims as well as did insane things (I want to keep this post short, but I will provide you with the proof of what I had just stated per your request). So this book cannot be taken seriously. First link you posted: according to the Bible, Mary gave birth inside the barn and wrapped and put the baby in a manger (Luke 2:7). Do palm trees grow in the barns? Do streams flow through the barns? To me it is one of those countless insane Qur'an verses. In addition, it was the night time when shepherds saw the star in the sky. You won't see them in the day light. So Mary, being in labor, wondered out there in the open in the middle of the night being exposed to danger just to get to the palm tree? Seriously? I have more to comment on that passage, but I will stop here, you already have an idea what I mean.

As to pagan Christianity, Paul in his letter to Timothy (2Timothy 3:1-5) stated (and this is what we have right now, the prophecy turned to be so accurate): "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." People turned away from the true God and adopted pagan holidays along with the non-Biblical doctrines, such as immortality of soul, everlasting punishment in hell, going to heaven/hell right after the death, Trinity, secret rapture, just to name a few... And unfortunately, the folks who host this web-site and their followers are among them. Am I a Muslim if I state that I am but do contrary to the teachings of Islam? So is with these people. They profess to be Christians but do not follow the teachings. I won't comment on the info in the second link, but I will rather give praise to the LORD JESUS and His HEAVENLY FATHER and the LORD HOLY SPIRIT for finding one more piece of info that proves that Islam is a creation of Catholicism: the very first verse on that page says that Jesus directed God's word to Mary. Please read at least one of the first four books of the New Testament to see that He was directing the word to everyone whom He could meet and provided extensive training of His disciples. Catholicism is the only religion that uplifts Mary and so they did not fail to embed it in your teachings.

My concern for you and all Muslims around the world is that your prophet did not prophesied about the beast, the mark of the beast, the image of the beast, the 666, which is the number of his name, about details on the last days, and so on. The Bible encourages everyone to test all the spirits to see if they are of God (1John 4:1). And how do you know what is of God or not if you do not test it first? I implore you to read these articles to know who is the beast:

http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm

http://www.remnantofgod.org/littlehorn.htm

http://www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm

http://remnantofgod.org/books/docs/How-the-Vatican-Created-Islam.pdf#search=%22how vatican created islam%22

I hope and will pray that your eyes will be opened. You also need to read the Quran and Hadith. I decided to follow the Biblical advise and to test these two, and they both failed big time. And so I highly encourage you to take a critical approach to your teachings.

Sincerely,

Elena.

Amin said...

How the Qur’an corrects Catholicism?

Does the number 666 have a meaning in Islam?

How do you know the Qur'an is the word of God?

Is the doctrine of the trinity correct?

Elena Everett said...

Amin,

It is so sad that you did not even take a look at these articles, you just posted your links, but did not bother yourself to at least find something that you could refute from what I have offered to you so I believe you are affraid of looking into them, you are affraid of the light. Too sad that you don't want to come out of the darkness. I have done my job now and I still hope and will pray that one day you will remember this posting and read the articles. I gave you the light, and it is up to you what to do with it. That's the beauty of our LORD JESUS, who created free-will people.

Amin said...

Response to Islam haters and their spreading of falsehood

Amin said...

Is Islam a new religion? Does Muhammad differ from other Prophets?

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

+Amin do you even care to look at the refutation of the arguments that you present or do you not care to respond and just post your links for entertainment purposes because those arguments have been refuted more than sufficient times.

Amin said...

Does the Qur’an confirm the Bible?
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/did-god-preserve-bible-did-god-want.html

Is there any contradiction in the Qur'an? (0) (Index)
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/03/refutation-of-so-called-internal.html

Is self-mutilation allowed in Islam, as it is in Christianity (Mark 9:43-47 and Matthew 5:29-30)?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/09/is-self-mutilation-allowed-in-islam-as.html

Is there “honor killing” in the Qur’an, as there is in the Bible (Leviticus 20:9-11 and 21:9, Exodus 21:17, Deuteronomy 13:6-9)?
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/04/is-there-honor-killing-in-quran-as.html

Does women have the obligation or can be forced to have relations with her husband’s brother, as in Judaism and Christianity (Genesis 38:8)?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/09/does-women-have-obligation-or-can-be.html

Is stoning supported in the Bible?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/10/is-stoning-supported-in-bible.html

Exposing those who misquote and mistranslate verses of the Qur’an / Some frequently misquoted verses of the Qur’an
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/11/exposing-those-who-misquote-and.html

Do Christians teach concepts that are not from the Bible?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/why-do-christians-teach-concepts-that.html

Is it “satanic” to deny the crucifixion (according to the Bible)?
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/11/is-it-satanic-to-deny-crucifixion.html

Will Christians enter Paradise or go to Hell?
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/03/will-christians-enter-paradise-or-go-to.html

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

+Amin Sir, I can quite easily post links to numerous articles refuting your claims as well. Do you even try to look at articles refuting your own or do you just post links on other's articles presenting worn out arguments refuted 1000+ times. And seriously? Mark 9:43-47 implies self mutilation in the literal sense? It is used to describe the intensity of punishment in the lake of fire as in its better to not have these organs as the area on which you will be hurt is less as the fire wont touch it. After reading your articles, I can sincerely have a nice giggle. That's all. Would love to see some more.

Amin said...
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fsxflyer789 Productions said...

Is self-mutilation allowed in Islam, as it is in Christianity (Mark 9:43-47 and Matthew 5:29-30)? - I was talking about this title which is what made me giggle.

I recently checked out your website since you've been posting here a lot and you post Qur'an verses and use your interpretation on them which is what I can do pretty well too.
24:2 The adulteress/fornicatress and the adulterer/fornicator, flog each of them with hundred lashes. And (let) not withhold you pity for them concerning the religion of Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
So a hundred lashes wouldn't really kill a person? I hope you've been to biology class to know that sever blood loss can cause death an we actually need it to live? A slit wrist if left bleeding for 20-30 minutes is enough to nearly kill a person let alone 100 lashes.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
The Jews came to Allah's Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Apostle said to them, "What do you find in the Torah (Old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?" They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them." Abdullah bin Salam said, "You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm." They brought and opened the Torah and one of them placed his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift your hand." When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, "Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. ('Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 829)
Narrated Ash-Sha'bi:
from 'Ali when the latter stoned a lady to death on a Friday. 'Ali said, "I have stoned her according to the tradition of Allah's Apostle." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 803)

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

Do Christians teach concepts that are not from the Bible?

WIth this entire article, you're pre-supposing what your Qur'an says is right instead of actually picking up a bible and reading it.

(Catholics took Mary as god. Jesus never did it. Jesus only worshiped God)(Allah knows best) (note jesus also accepted worship) - Oh for God's sakes. I think you are quite new to this and have no idea of what even goes on since you keep putting forth the same worn out arguments put forth by Muslim apologists in general. There is a reason I said I have already read your articles because in my expereince most articles on Muslim sites are copy paste arguments. I'd like you to cite one historical source in which Catholics every worshipped Mary as God and put her in the Trinity.

I really don't understand the logic behind this article. You post Qur'anic verses and claim that the Bible never teaches this. HAve you ever read the Bible in its entirety or no?

(Christians innovated that they would be saved by the grace, regardless their deeds, while according to James 2:14-26 “faith without works is dead”, according to Matthew 5:17, Jesus confirmed the Law, etc.)(Allah knows best) - That is Protestant theology which has been refuted by Catholics many times.

(Jesus did not abrogate the Law, but confirmed it (Matthew 5:17))(Allah knows best)-
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Do you have any ideas of what this even means or did you just try to pull a fast one by implying your own context on it? it is saying that he has come to fulfill the law as in the prophecies and the purpose of it. I think you haven't actually read the entire Old Testament to clearly see what it's purpose is.)

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

(Verse 3:49 says about Jesus “I cure”, “I design”, “I breath”, “I give life”. So, Jesus performed Signs, as “a sign from your Lord” and “by the permission of God”. So, if God had not given it to Jesus, then there would be no Sign at all, and if God was not to give permission, then there would be no Sign at all, then the performer (Jesus) is “irrelevant”, because Jesus can not be given a sign on his own. Other messengers came with Signs. Because a human performed it, it does not make him a deity)(Allah knows best) - No one claims that Jesus is God because of his miracles. This is clear straw man.


(The miraculous birth of Jesus does not make him a deity. Adam was created likewise)(Allah knows best) - AFAIK no one claims Jesus deity because he was born miraculously. Quick backtracking to biology class, The blood of the child comes from the father so who's blood did Jesus have?

3:7 He is the One Who revealed to you the Book, in it are Verses which are absolutely clear - they are the foundation of ... "We believe in it. All is from our Lord." And not will take heed except men of understanding. - This isn't even talking about the Bible but the Qur'an so I have no idea why you would apply to the Bible.

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

(Many Christians follow parables or allegories, instead of the clear verses in the Bible (e.g. do not eat pig). Matthew 13:13 and Luke 8:10 confirm that the purpose of the parables is that they may not understand)(Allah knows best).

I would like you cite one new testament verse in which Jesus says do not eat the meat of the swine or pig.

Therefore speak I to them in parables, because they seeing, see not — In pursuance of this general rule, I do not give more knowledge to this people, because they use not that which they have already: having all the means of seeing, hearing, and understanding, they use none of them; they do not effectually see, or hear, or understand any thing. For instance, seeing my miracles, which are incontestable proofs of my divine mission, they are not convinced thereby that I am their long-expected Messiah: and hearing my discourses, they are not instructed by what they hear in the design of my coming, and the nature of my kingdom. Neither do they understand — My doctrine. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias — Which indeed was principally intended of the men of this generation. Isaiah 6:9-10. Which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand — Or rather, as the words are more properly rendered, ye will hear, but in nowise understand;
This claim is quite ironic since it is meant for you. The purpose is not that Christians wouldn't understand. The purpose of it is that Christians who follow Jesus and are in the light clearly understand what the Parables mean but ignorant people like you who try to twist and turn verses to their own benefit. You specifically see what you want to see in there.

Please review all your arguments which is why I said you don't even try to look at stuff trying to refute, you just post and go away.

Amin said...

Is stoning supported in the Qur'an?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/is-stoning-supported-in-quran.html

Was the Old Testament for the Jews and the New Testament for the Christians? Or both of them were for the Jews?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/10/was-old-testament-for-jews-and-new.html

Did the Qur'an get the trinity wrong or do the Christians invent lies about the Qur'an?
http://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2016/07/did-quran-get-trinity-wrong-or-do.html

Can you eat non-halal meat?
https://aqtthq.blogspot.com.es/2017/05/can-you-eat-non-halal-meat.html

khurshid alam said...

I really don't wish to waste my time trying to refute your straw man evidence anymore. I don't think you understand apologetics by the way you respond and posting evidence from Wikipedia out of all places in some articles. Good luck for the future.

Skibnik said...

Christmas trees are a pagan symbol just like the Easter bunny is a pagan symbol of fertility the early Christian church would Co-op pagan holidays and "Christianize" them. As well as when the Nicene Creed was brokered by Constantine a pagan to solidify his rule and at that time a lot of pagan rites traditions were adopted. Such as praying to Mary and saints etc. So an argument can be made that the Catholic Church not Christianity itself has Pagan roots.

fsxflyer789 Productions said...

It has already been sufficiently discussed and proven that 25th december is not a pagan holiday but it was the romans who adopted it is a pagan holiday to contend with the growth of Christianity. It is a jewish belief that a prophet died on the same date that they were conceived. The early Christians were jewish and brought along this tradition with them. Jesus was crucified on the 25h of march and a conception to birth takes 9 months. Add 9 months to march 25th, we get December 25th. Pagan emperor constitued this holday as the birth of the "sun" in 271 AD to contend with Christianity. Easter bunny AFAIK does not have any religious significance. Praying to Mary and Saints is not a pagan practice at all since greeks and romans didn't believe in Mary or saints. It has evidence in early / late 2nd century. i can provide further biblical evidence to support my statement if you are interested :)

Amin said...

To whom should you invoke?


foofy said...

Is the New Testament for Gentiles?
Well, we know that the New Testament is about the Mosiach/Messiah/Masih/Christ, right? So...

Is the Messiah for Gentiles?
You should ask the Prophet Isaiah.

“And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭11:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The New Testament applies this to Jesus.

“That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets. A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory. And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:17-21‬ ‭KJV

Even in Old Testament times, Israel was intended by God to be a light to the nations around them. In the New Testament, Jesus Christ says this about the role of the Messiah.

“Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:45-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Your comment of January 21 attempts to state otherwise, strangely.

Amin said...

Was Jesus sent to the gentiles?

For Whom is Islam/the Qur'an? To whom was Muhammad sent?