Sunday, October 19, 2014

Jihadists Accused of Genocide in Congo

If terrorism and violent jihad are not part of Islam, why do so many Muslim groups, from so many different parts of the world, conclude that Islam commands Muslims to terrorize their enemies and to wage violent jihad? How can such diverse groups, from such diverse backgrounds, misinterpret Islam in exactly the same way?
International Business Times—Just days after 27 people were killed in Congo by suspected Ugandan rebels, 22 people, including at least eight children, were killed in a fresh attack in the conflict-ridden eastern region of the country on Saturday, according to a report by Agence France-Presse, or AFP. Militants belonging to the Islamist group Allied Democratic Forces - National Army for the Liberation of Uganda, or ADF-NALU, are suspected to be behind the attacks.

The latest attack reportedly occurred about 30 miles from the town of Beni, located in the rebel stronghold of North Kivu in the country’s northeast. Ten women, eight children and four men were killed when rebels raided the village of Byalos, according to media reports.

“This is a genocide, the way in which the ADF kills these people,” Omar Kavota, a spokesperson for the Civil Society of North Kivu said, according to a Reuters report.

The attack comes just two days after 27 people, including many children, were killed in the same area during raids by rebel militia. (Continue Reading.)
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37 comments:

Davy Jones said...
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Nojmul Huda said...

Saudi petro-dollar so called “black gold” which Mother Nature has given them freely and freely Saudi distribute this wealth around the world to spread the kingdom of DEVIL's message terrorism to submit to devil god Allah, in contrast to spreading Good News salvation from God thru believing Jesus Christ for mankind’s sins against Holy God thru killing, temptation, violent, sex etc.

Muslims be aware to accept true religion of True God of mercy and kind before your time up in this world. After your death there would be no chance to turn around. Make hay while the sun shines.

All Muslims thugs around the world including America, Europe are motivated by attractive internet website for terrorism and incentive with real money for fighting for evil god Allah for submission to him. Influence of Saudi petro-dollar in World Economy force our President a Harvard graduate to acknowledge Islam is religion of Peace and our free press media to close their eyes from criticizing beheading publicly like ISIS in Saudi Arabia. What hypocrisy is!

Islam is Religion of Politics for power, money and sex.

Osama Abdallah said...

David Wood,

I challenge you to have a debate with me on the following topic:


ISIS Islam vs Islam

You can play the ISIS Islam role, since it is impossible to bring an ISIS member to the US to debate. He would get arrested. So, you can take their position, and I'll debate you and prove that ISIS Islam is false.

Are you up to the challenge? Have George set it up if you agree. I would require though at least one month notice due to my busy schedule. Other than that, name your time and weekend and I will be insha'Allah ready for you.

I look forward to your response.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Osama Abdallah said...

I forgot about the TV channel that you work for. You can have them also setup a Skype debate if its more convenient. I can meet you either on Skype or in person in a debate. I'll let you choose it.

I think this is a very important and relevant debate, and its time we settle this ISIS thing in a debate.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

David Wood said...

Osama,

Excellent idea! My favorite way to move discussions forward is through public debate, where people can hear points on both sides and make a better informed decision.

Where are you living nowadays? If there's a church or hall available in your area, maybe we can do it near you. If not, we can arrange it via Skype.

Osama Abdallah said...

Thanks for the prompt reply David. I am currently in Illinois. So if you could come to the Chicago land area, then I will easily insha'Allah be able to meet you.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

All right. I'll check on Facebook to see if anyone in the Chicago area has a church that would be willing to host the debate.

I'll be in California next month as well, where there are plenty of churches interested in debate.

David Ford said...

[Osama Abdallah]"if you could come to the Chicago land area, then I will easily insha'Allah be able to meet you."

The New Testament said it first:

"For you ought to say, 'If Mar-Ya [Master YHWH] wills, we will both live, and do this or that.'" -- James 4:15.

I looked at the Khabouris Codex to see that the "Mar-Ya" is there.
http://www.dukhrana.com/khabouris/

David Wood said...

Osama,

A Pastor in Chicago said we can have the debate at his church. He said the church seats 135 comfortably (180 with overflow) and that it's all set up for recording and live-streaming. Here's the church's site: http://mpichurch.org.

You said you'd need about a month to prepare. What do you think of November 22 or 23?

Michael C said...

"The Quran directly commands us to commit terrorism, so why are we afraid of it?"
Ragab Hilal Hamida, Egyptian MP, in the Egyptian Parliament, January 2006.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/nonie_darwish_an_arab_for_isra.html

David Wood said...

Osama,

There's also a church in Detroit that is interested in having a debate. That's not too far from you.

Christlike said...

Looking forward to this debate, i shall be keenly waiting, is there anyway i can contribute in terms of financial assistance Prof David Wood?

David Wood said...

"is there anyway i can contribute in terms of financial assistance Prof David Wood?"

I should be able to find someone to stay with in the area, so the only major cost would be the plane ticket.

Nojmul Huda said...

@Osama,
You have guts to throw challenge against Quran and its devilish teaching to kill Christians, Jews, Hindu, Buddhists, etc. about 5 billion non-Muslims people of the World, until they convert to Islam or pay taxes for their security of life and property where Muslims are majority, and if minority stay quiet and say Islam is a religion of peace as David described in his video as type.

I wonder how would you defeat Quran’s teaching prescribed in Suras 9:5, 9:29, 9:23, 9:11, 3:32, etc. in support of killing non-Muslims and raping non-Muslims women until they pay taxes for security of their life and property or convert to Islam as ISIS an Islamic organization are practicing in Iraq and Syria and disqualify them as non-Muslims.

Please be informed that David would use those verses from Quran to justify his claim that Islam’s god Allah and his prophet Muhammad as described in Quran are false, an imaginary god of Muhammad and Muhammad’s creative heaven, rewarding heavenly sex with angel dying for cause of Muhammad’s imaginary god in suicide bombing or fighting as ISIS is doing.

We like to hear from you substantive arguments with no spin please. Please note that the Bible and the Quran is assumed to be source of knowledge about True God and His Kingdom. But unlike Jewish Bible, Quran teaches opposite to Bible. Quran teaches Muslims’ Allah is merciful to Muslims but cruel to Christians and Jews, and thus he is not just, righteous and merciful to all his creation. One of the two books is wrong, is this Quran??

FYI, No Religion is Pure Science that can be repeated in laboratory. In Science believe has no place. So you cannot say Quran is scientific book. If it is true tell your Allah to drop another book in Public Square to squeeze public thrust for finding True God in real life.

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Thanks for the information. Please confirm with the Church in Chicago. Frankly, Detroit is at least 5 hours away, and it would be too tiring and unnecessary especially if you could just as well fly to Chicago as you could to Detroit.

As to the date on Saturday Nov 22 and Sunday Nov 23, yes, it is confirmed. Please do make it official from your end, and I will also make it official from mine.

Thanks,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

Also, what are the other topics you guys would like to debate on Nov 22nd and 23rd? I am sure George wants three other topics :). So please put the list together and let me know. To make things much easier and to help things move faster, here are the topics that I would like to debate:

(Feel free to change the wording of the titles as long as they don't modify the main points)

1- Is ISIS Islam true Islam?

2- Was Prophet Muhammad a true Prophet?

3- Was Jesus the Creator of the Universe?

4- What does Islam say about the Bible?

Feel free to add any suggestions. Also, feel free to offer any debater or debaters. I accept all debaters. No exceptions.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Hi Osama,

George isn't involved in these debates (though he's free to help spread the word if he wants).

All of the topics you selected are excellent.

The pastor just confirmed that we can use the church in the evenings on the 22nd and 23rd. That's time for two debates. You and I can debate ISIS and one of the other topics.

What do you think about flying to Detroit for the other two (sometime after the Chicago debates)? The church that agreed to host is C.L. Edwards' church. That way, C.L. can do one of the debates there and I can do the other.

That will be four crucial topics in two major cities.

Osama Abdallah said...

"Feel free to add any suggestions. Also, feel free to offer any debater or debaters. I accept all debaters. No exceptions."

I would like to qualify that:

I mean debaters from the opponents' side. I would like to debate all four debates on my own. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I really would like to have these four exclusive to me.

Thank you,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Sure, we can fly to Detroit. Please arrange it as best fits for you and your team. Just please make sure that I debate these debates. I know there are great Muslims debaters out there, and I would be honored to team up with them, but maybe some other time insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Sounds good. I'll tell CL to check with his church on dates.

smalltallest88 said...

Good to see @Osama challenging Dr. David Wood to a debate.
Concerning the jihadist issue, what happened in Congo is not new to people who know about "Abuja declaration 1989" where an islamic organisation held a conference to islamize the africa countries.
This is a link of what was dicussed in that conference
kingdomnewsng.com/news/103-beware-abuja-declaration-has-been-edited

This is other link I'll be providing was edited after the truth of that conference came to the notice of the Nigerian people. The content of that conference was edited this year.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuja_Declaration_(1989)

As it's now the Islamic organisation has taken away every content from that link just to show that what was there before was nothing but the truth.


@Osama, how do you defend this organisation (IAO)?

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Can you please confirm the dates and times of each debate, and the address of the Church, and whom I will be debating, and what topics?

So far all we have is an agreement from a Church and an agreement on the dates of Nov 22 and 23. I need the details on the times for the debates, and with whom. You also mentioned Michigan. Please provide the information to there as well.

Thank you,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Any update?

Thanks,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Hi Osama,

The location in Chicago didn't work out for next month. But a church in Detroit says we can have two debates there on Saturday, November 22. Does that date work for you? If so, you could do one debate with in the afternoon, and one in the evening (with me and CL Edwards as your opponents).

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Sounds good. Please confirm the times and date and the two debates that we'll debate. I'll let you choose the debates from the list and determine the times.

Thank you,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

I have a request. Please push the date to one month after the confirmation date. We've wasted too much time on going back and forth. Please lock the confirmation from the Church. The one in Chicago looked promising and then things changed.

So please make sure that the weekend is pushed beyond Nov 22. I am honestly super busy here and I have not yet started preparing for the debates. Knowing myself, I know I won't start until the debates are all locked and advertised on your website. So please lock that in place, and then set the weekend date for it.

Thank you,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

I know I won't get motivated to put the debate material together until the whole thing is official and locked down. So far we have non of that. And time is moving. So to be fair for all of us debaters, please have the whole thing locked down, and choose the weekend that is one month from the date your lock it all down. It has to be on a weekend.

I hope this is acceptable. There is so much material that I have to go through to prepare for the two debates.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Osama,

If you're backing out of the debates I just spent a week setting up, there's no way I'm setting up more. This has been a huge waste of time. Don't ask me again.

Osama Abdallah said...

Backing out?? Do we even have a date confirmed for November 22? I just don't want to only have 2 weeks left to prepare.

Please confirm the address for Nov 22. I don't like to go into circles. We were initially told that we could have it in Chicago, but then things got changed and moved to Detroit. Like I asked, do we have a place confirmed for Nov 22 in Detroit? If so, please provide it. But if you could move the date further than Nov 22, then I would appreciate it and most prefer it. But otherwise, Nov 22 is set. But again, please lock the address and make it official.

I appreciate all of your efforts.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

I need to clarify my previous statement:

"Please push the date to one month after the confirmation date...."

I meant it to mean:

Please push the date to one month after the new confirmation date that you would receive from the new Church in Detroit. Since we couldn't meet in Chicago, and we still don't have a confirmed address in Detroit, I only asked that we move the date to one month after we lock down everything. But if this seems to be a trouble, then by all means NOV 22 IS FINE FOR ME. And once again, I appreciate all of your efforts David.

So yes, please don't think that I am changing my mind. On the contrary, I am very looking forward to the two debates. Can I ask to debate the following two on Nov 22?

1- Is ISIS Islam the Truth Islam?

2- Was Muhammad a True Prophet?

Thanks David!

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Osama,

Setting up debates takes time. Here's how the process of setting up debates goes for me: I first have to find a clear spot on my schedule. Then I have to check with you and see if the same date works for you. If it does, then I have to check with your other opponent (C.L. Edwards) and see if the same date works for him. If it does, I then have to find a church that's willing to host both debates with the given topics. When I find a church, the pastor wants to talk to me. If he likes the idea after talking to me, he then has to check with the board of elders. If they affirm, he then gets back to me.

So that's what I've been doing the past week. We found a date that works for all of us, and I talked to the pastor of Harvest Bible Church in Detroit about hosting the debates. He likes the idea, but he's confirming with his board of elders today. So everything will be confirmed today or tomorrow. That means we should agree to have the debates and start preparing.

The topics you selected are good. You can debate me on ISIS and C. L. Edwards on "Was Muhammad a True Prophet?"

Here's the church's website: http://www.harvestdetroitwest.org

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David. Sure. I appreciate all of your hard efforts. I know how difficult and time consuming things are. They may seem simple on the surface, but they turn out to be very time consuming and exhausting. I look forward to a successful debate with you and with CL on November 22 :).

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Hi Osama,

I just heard back from the pastor. He asked me to check with you to see if you have Saturday, December 6th available. He said that date works better for the church, because they have nothing at all scheduled that day. Let me know if that works, and we'll be confirmed for the two debates.

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

Great! I actually wanted the date pushed as well :). Sure, please confirm. December 6th is confirmed from my end. I will lock it. Please advise me if things change.

So as it stands now, Nov 22nd won't work, correct?

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

David Wood said...

Osama,

Good to hear. I'll let the church know we're all confirmed for December 6th.

I think they just had some additional things scheduled on the 22nd, and they didn't want to divide the attendance between two events.

Osama Abdallah said...

Hi David,

So when will you post the debate announcement on your website? I will also announce it on my website's blog after you do. This way I know things are all locked in.

Now as to the debates' format, I would like to suggest the following:

For the ISIS and Prophet Muhammad Debates:

The following are for each debater:

1- 40 minutes opening statement.
2- 20 minutes rebuttal period.
3- 10 minutes cross fire. You can use the 10 minutes however you wish. You can speak freely to finish your points, or you can ask questions to your opponent.

5- 5 minutes conclusion.
6- 1 minute counter-conclusion. This is in case someone decides to throw in an argument or claim that was not talked about in the debate. The other can have 1 minute to respond.

Please feel free to add in your suggestions. But I strongly feel about this format, especially on point #6.

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

Osama Abdallah said...

So instead of having a 6-minute conclusion, we have have 5 minutes each, and then 1 minute each. If you'd like, we can make it 4 minutes conclusion, and one minute counter conclusion, since traditionally we've been consistently allocating 5 minutes for conclusions throughout all of our debates.

What do you think? I believe this counter conclusion idea would ensure that no cheap shots be given, especially by the last speaker. Would you not agree that this is fair?

Regards,
Osama Abdallah