Saturday, September 27, 2014

ISIS and the Radicalization of Young Muslims

Politicians, the media, and many Muslim organizations report that ISIS (the Islamic State) is violating the commands of Allah and Muhammad. Yet many Muslims from various countries are traveling to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS and wage jihad. Why are so many young Muslims convinced that Islam commands them to fight non-Muslims and hypocrites?


Here are all of the sources quoted in the video (in order):

I. TWO VIEWS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE

President Barack Obama—“Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not ‘Islamic.’ No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state. . . . ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.” (Source)

Maajid Nawaz—“We Muslims must admit there are challenging Koranic passages that require reinterpretation today. Let us use existing tools of exegesis, such as specificity, restriction, abrogation and metaphor. Vacuous literalism as an interpretive method must be abandoned. It is bankrupt. Only by rejecting vacuous literalism are we able to condemn, in principle, ISIS-style slavery, beheading, lashing, amputation and other medieval practices forever (all of which are in the Quran). This is a struggle within Islam. Reformers either win, and get religion-neutral politics, or lose, and get ISIL-style theocracy.” (Source)

II. ON THE CLARITY OF THE QUR'AN

Qur’an 6:114—Shall I seek for a judge other than Allah, when He it is Who has sent down to you the Book fully explained?

Qur’an 11:1—This is a Book, whose verses have been made firm and free from imperfection and then they have been expounded in detail.

Qur’an 12:1—These are verses of the clear Book.

Qur’an 16:89—And We have sent down to thee the Book explaining all things . . .

Qur’an 24:46—Certainly We have revealed clear communications, and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right way.

Qur’an 27:1—These are verses of the Qur'an—a book that makes (things) clear.

Qur’an 41:3—A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail . . .

Qur’an 57:9—He it is who sends down clear communications upon His servant, that he may bring you forth from utter darkness into light.

III. ON SUBMISSION TO ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD

Qur’an 33:36—It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.

Qur’an 4:65—But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.

Qur’an 33:21—Certainly you have in the Apostle of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

IV. MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE AND TEACHINGS

Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—The Prophet said, . . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.”

Sahih Bukhari 2795—The Prophet said, “Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world, even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah’s cause).”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2785—A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, “Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.”

Sahih Bukhari 2796—The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it.”

Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

Sahih Muslim 33—The Messenger of Allah said: “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, kill him.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2535—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”

Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik 36.18.15—The Messenger of Allah said, “If someone changes his religion—then strike off his head!”

V. ALLAH'S COMMANDS

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Qur’an 3:28—Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security.

Tafsir Ibn Kathir on 3:28—Allah said, “unless you indeed fear a danger from them,” meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.’” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “Taqiyya is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.”

Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them.

Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.

Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.

Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when you should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

VI. THE CONTEXT DEFENSE

Luke 19:27—But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.

Luke 19:11-27—While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas. ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’ But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’ He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it. The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’ ‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’ The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’ His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’ Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’ His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’ Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’ ‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’ He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if you fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 9:30—And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

Ibn Kathir, The Battles of the Prophet, pp. 183-4—Allah, Most High, ordered the believers to prohibit the disbelievers from entering or coming near the sacred Mosque. On that, Quraish thought that this would reduce their profits from trade. Therefore, Allah, Most High, compensated them and ordered them to fight the people of the Book until they embrace Islam or pay the Jizyah. Allah says, “O you who believe! Truly the pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the sacred Mosque. And if you fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Therefore, the Messenger of Allah decided to fight the Romans in order to call them to Islam.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Ch. 88—The Prophet said, “My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya.”

VII. THE ABROGATED VERSE DEFENSE

Surah 2:256—There is no compulsion in religion.

Surah 109—Say: . . . “You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.”

Surah 8:61—But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace.

Qur’an 16:101—And when We change (one) communication for (another) communication, and Allah knows best what He reveals, they say: “You are only a forger.” Nay, most of them do not know.

Qur’an 2:106—Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

24 comments:

Kristian Kahrs said...

David Wood, I have tremendous respect for your work, and I have learned a lot from you. I get all your videos, and I have saved a great number of them. Before I went to Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan as a journalist for Christianity Today and other media right after 9/11, I thought it was good that Muslims believed in God like we do. However, my stay in these countries opened my eyes to the true nature of Islam.

Sisgp said...

Excellent, thank you David.

bob morane said...

@david, this one is da'if :
“Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

Unknown said...

"Qur’an 11:1—This is a Book, whose verses have been made firm and free from imperfection…."

David Ford:
If that "Book" is the Quran (and not say the Bible), that remark is erroneous. The Quran is anything but clear. An early form of the Quran was in the language of Aramaic presented in Arabic script. About 70% of the Quran is Aramaic. Translating the Quran into English with the assumption that it's in Arabic is largely a fool's errand, resulting in atrocious grammar and much unintelligible nonsense. About 25% of the Quran simply doesn't make sense within the 'it's Arabic' framework. With an understanding of Aramaic, the percent that doesn't make sense goes down to 5%.

Early Quranic manuscripts lacked vowel markings. Some of the mess in today's Qurans comes from incorrectly voweled words. For example, from 292-3 of
http://www.academia.edu/1013511/Quranic_Furqan
If we make the assumption that furqan in Q. 2:53 and Q. 21:48 is a garbled derivative of Aramaic puqdana, these two Quranic passages become completely lucid. Q. 2:53, which is clearly a reference to Moses’s receipt of the tablets of the Law on Mount Sinai, can be translated, ‘…when we gave Moses the book and the commandments’. The same applies to Q. 21:48: ‘We gave Moses and Aaron the commandments and illumination and a reminder for those who show piety’. We can further suggest that Q. 3:3, which also speaks of the furqan as something ‘sent down’, likewise uses furqan in the sense of ‘commandments’: ‘He has sent down to thee the book and the truth, confirming what was in front of him (?), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospels beforehand as guidance for the people, and He sent down the commandments…’.

I have a copy of _ The Generous Qur'an, An Accurate, Modern English Translation of the Qur'an, Islam's Holiest Book_
http://www.amazon.com/Generous-Accurate-English-Translation-Holiest/dp/098241370X/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411869370&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=usama+generous+qurn
which reveals the Quran's atrocious grammar and bloodthirstiness.

Nojmul Huda said...

David there is third view about Islam beside President Barak Obama and Maajid Nawaz, which is view according to writer Salman Rushdie, who described Quran as Satanic verse.

All Qur’anic verses that you have referred justify correctness of Salman Rushdie’s version of Islam. For point of interest I referred one: Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Christians alone are more than 2 billion people in the world and they are blessed of all people as God promised. God of Abraham is righteous, kind and justice as we find Him providing us life supporting elements like air, light rain etc. equally to everybody whether believer or non-believer and commanded everybody to love each other like Him.

This and other teachings from the Bible prove that Quran is satanic verses and spread hate crime against humanity. Humanity is salt of human and Muslims lost that humanity following Quran. Quran must be destroyed to save innocent human lives and not to repeat at any cost what happed to the girl in Oklahoma and around the world.

bam bamba said...

David great work. This is islam exposed! No more hiding place. The truth will come out eventually. God bless you all

Baron Eddie said...

an ISIS wins 100 meter race !


Definition of a Moderate Muslim

Sisgp said...

"Unknown" you are right I have Brother Usama's Quran. However best place to get it is from his website.http://thestraightway.org

jimothy b said...

The following verses from the video all demonstrate what a totally selfish, unholy and devilish religion Islam really is – that Muslims have to take the lives of others in order to be accepted by the god of Islam, to gain salvation and be allowed into heaven.

Sahih al-Bukhari 2785—A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, “Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.”

Sahih Bukhari 2796—The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it.”

Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

This is the complete opposite of what we find in the Bible, as we see in the Old Testament, where Israel ALREADY has salvation through God, because God himself IS their salvation.

E.g. “And He has become my salvation” Exodus 15:2

And:

“the Lord lives! Blessed be my Rock! Let God be exalted, the Rock of my salvation” 2 Samuel 22:47
(the Rock, who is the “the Lord your God” of the Old Testament, who is Christ. 1 Corinthians 10:4)

So God judging, passing sentence and destroying some very evil sinful pagan tribes, the Canaanites etc. through Israel had nothing to do with Israel’s salvation, since God HIMSELF was already their salvation.

But Muhammad twisted these Old Testament Scriptures concerning God, Israel and the pagan tribes that were being evicted by God’s judgment, to fit his own agenda of conquering the world.

But what happened between God, Israel and those pagan tribes centuries earlier had absolutely nothing to do with Muhammad, since he wasn't even an Israelite.

In fact, it was Muhammad himself who was the sinful, idolatrous, superstitious pagan, and who, by his own admission, had no idea if he had salvation or not.

rivan said...

Excellent presentation David! Did u have a Q&A? Hope you had a good attendance. This needs to be shown and shared with lots of people.

larry said...

SUNNI CLERGY & SODOMY
Ibn Kathir confirmed that there is a nexus of homosexuality with the Sunni clergy
The fact that both their elite rulership and clergy are replete with homosexuals is a fact admitted to by none other than the great Imam of Nawasib Ibn Kathir who in his authority work al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya Volume 9 page 184
وهي فاحشة اللواط التي قد ابتلي بها غالب الملوك والأمراء والتجار والعوام والكتاب والفقهاء والقضاة ونحوهم إلا من عصم الله منهم ، فإن في اللواط من المفاسد ما يفوت الحصر والتعداد ولهذا تنوعت عقوبات فاعليه ولإن يقتل المفعول به خير من أن يؤتى في دبره ، فإنه يفسد فساداً لا يرجى له بعده صلاح أبدا ، إلا أن يشاء الله ويذهب خبر المفعول به ، فعلى الرجل أن يحفظ ولده في حال صغره وبعد بلوغه ، وأن يجنبه مخالطة هؤلاء الملاعين الذين لعنهم رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم.
Homosexuality has spread amongst the majority of kings, commanders, merchants, folks, clerks, clerics (Fuqaha), judges etc. except those who have been protected by Allah (swt), verily homosexuality contains countless defects, which is why the punishment varies for homosexuals, verily to kill a homosexual is better than allowing him to partake in it, because there is no likelihood of rehabilitation, unless Allah (swt)’s desires that he be cleansed of it, a man should therefore preserve his son during his childhood and adulthood, and he should not let him communicate with these cursed people who have been cursed by Allah’s apostle.
Now let us cite Imam Bayhaqi who in his prominent work Shu’ab al-Eman, Volume 4 page 359 recorded the orthodox mentality of the Nasibi clergy in respect of young boys from the testimony of none other than one of the beloved pioneer Sunni scholars Imam Suyfian Thawri:
أخبرنا أبو عبد الله الحافظ حدثني محمد بن أحمد الذهلي حدثني محمد بن موسى قال : سمعت محمد بن حاتم بن نعيم بمكة يقول سمعت حيان يقول سمعت عبد الله بن المبارك : دخل سفيان الثوري الحمام فدخل عليه غلام صبيح فقال : أخرجوه فإني أرى مع كل امرأة شيطانا و مع كل غلام بضعة عشر شيطانا
Abdullah ibn al-Mubarak said: ‘Once Sufyan Thawri entered a bath room and then a handsome boy came in. Sufyan called out: ‘Please take him away from here, for if there is one Satan present with a woman, there are more than ten Satans present with a beautiful boy.’’
Shu’ab al-Eman, Volume 4 page 359 Tradition 5404
Imam Ibn al-Jauzi has likewise recorded the submission of Imam Thawri:
يروى عن سفيان الثوري أنه قال مع الجارية شيطان ومع الغلام شيطانان فخشيت على نفسي من شيطانيه
It is narrated that Sufyan Thawri said: ‘With every woman there is a Satan, whilst with every boy there are two Satans, I was hence fearful of his two Satans’
Talbis Iblis, page 338

larry said...

SUNNI & SODOMY
Part 2

Let us also read the following interesting episode:
عن أبي بكر المرزوي قال جاء حسن البزاز إلى أحمد بن حنبل ومعه غلام حسن الوجه فتحدث معه فلما أراد أن ينصرف قال له أبو عبد الله يا أبا علي لا تمش مع هذا الغلام في طريق فقال له إنه ابن أختي قال وإن كان لا يهلك الناس فيك
Abu Bakr al-Maroozi narrated that Hassan al-Baza came to visit Ahmad ibn Hanbal and with him was a beautiful boy. He talked to him and when he wanted to leave, Abu Abdillah (Imam Ahmad) said: ‘Oh Abu Ali, don’t walk with this boy on the street. He replied: ‘He is my sister’s son’. He (Imam Ahmad) said: ‘Even so, otherwise the people will have suspicious thoughts about you.’
Talbis Iblis, page 337
According to Nawasib, Imam Abdullah bin Mubarak (d. 181 H) was homosexual
The personality of Abdullah ibn Mubarak is well known amongst the Ahle Sunnah. He was a famed student of Imam Abu Hanifa. Imam Dhahabi stated about him: ‘Imam, Sheikh ul Islam, the scholar of his time, the leader of the pious of his time’ (Siar alam alnubala, v8 p378). Ismail bin Ayash said: ‘There is no one on the earth better than ibn al-Mubarak and every good quality Allah has created, He placed in Abdullah ibn al-Mubarak’ (Siar alam alnubala, v8 p384). Now, let us read about one such ‘good quality’ possessed by Imam Ibn Mubarak as recorded by Allamah Ragihb Asfahani in his famed work Al-Muhadarat al-Udaba, Volume 1 page 199:
لما استولى الناصر على طبرستان فوض إلى عبد الله بن المبارك القضاء، وكان يرمي بالابنة، فقال: يا أمير المؤمنين أنا أحتاج إلى رجال أجلاد يعينونني! فقال: قد بلغني ذلك.
“When al-Nasir ruled Tabaristan, he appointed Abdullah bin Mubarak as a Judge, who was addicted to the anus (was homosexual) he (Ibn al-Mubarak) asked: ‘Oh commander of the believers, I need some tough men who can help me’. He (al-Nasir) said: ‘I was aware of your need before this’.
According to the Nawasib their Qadhi Yahya bin Aktham (d. 242 H) was a homosexual
Before we unveil the character of this person, let us introduce this person from the words of Imam Dhahabi cited him as ‘the supreme judge, the jurist, the scholar’ (Siar alam alnubala, v12 p5) and also stated: ‘He was among the mujtahid Imams’ (Siar alam alnubala, v12, p6). Allamah Ragihb Asfahani records in his famed work Al-Muhadarat al-Udaba, Volume 3 page 351:
دخل يحيى بن أكثم على المأمون فرأى عنده غلاماً صبيح الوجه فقال له المأمون: استنطقه وامتحنه فقال له القاضي: ما الخبر؟فقال له: الخبر خبران خبر في الأرض أنك لوطي، وخبر في السماء أنك مأبون، فقال له المأمون: وأيهما أصح؟فقال: خبر السماء فخجل يحيى وانقطع.
“Once Yahya bin Aktham went to Mamun and saw a cute boy sitting next to him, Mamun asked: ‘Talk to him and examine him.’ Then the Qadhi asked: ‘What’s the news?’ The boy replied: ‘On earth it is known that you are a homosexual whereas in the skies it is known that you have an addiction to the anus’. The Qadhi asked: ‘Which news is correct?’ The boy replied: ‘The news in the skies can never be wrong’ Yahya then felt shy and remained silent.
In Siar alam alnubala, Volume 12 page 10, we read the following about this esteemed Sunni Imam:
وكان عبثه بالمرد أيام الشبيبة
“He used to mess with cute boys when he was young”
We read the following poem by Ahmad bin Abi Naeem which he wrote for Yahyah bin Aktham in Tarikh Baghdad, Volume 14 page 196:
حاكمنا يرتشى وقاضينا … يلوط والراس شر ما راس … … لا احسب الجور ينقضى وعلى … الأمة وال من ال عباس
“Our Governor takes bribe,
Our Judge is homosexual
And as long as the Abbasides rule
I have no confidence that tyranny will subside”

larry said...

SUNNI & SODOMY
Part 3


Imam of the Deobandies Maulana Qasim Nanatovi loved to undress children
Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi known in the Deobandi world as ‘The Physician of the Muslims’ [Hakim al-ummat] and ‘Reformer of the Nation’ [Mujaddid al-Millat] narrates the following ‘decent’ habit of his master Maulana Muhammad Qasim Nanotavi:
“Maulana (Muhammad Qasim Nanotavi) used to laugh and speak with the children and he used to make fun with Jalaluddin Sahibzada Maulana Muhammad Yaqub [rh] who was a child at that time and he used to sometimes putt off his (child’s) cap and take off his Izar (waist-sheet cover).”
Hikayat e Awliyah, page 191 (published in Karachi)
As Thanvi failed to record what Maulana Nanotovi performed ‘next’ we shall likewise refrain from adopting conjecture! What is relevant is this example demonstrates that nudity (even child nudity) is perfectly acceptable for Deobandis. Deobandis should not feel disillusioned if they ever see their local Madrassas full of Mullahs surrounded by naked boys, if anything this demonstrates how at ease the Deobandi clergy are with child nudity.
The Nasibi Caliph Yazeed was a homosexual
Regarding the sixth caliph of Nawasib, Imam Dhahabi records the following words from the sermon of Abdul Malik bin Marwan the seventh caliphs of Nawasib in ‘Tareekh Islam’ Volume 1 page 634:
ولست بالخليفة المستضعف – يعني عثمان – ولا الخليفة المداهن – يعني معاوية – ولا الخليفة المأبون – يعني يزيد
“I am not weak like Uthman and I am not cunning like Mu’awiya and I am not a homosexual like Yazeed”
The Nasibi Caliph Waleed was a homosexual
Imam Dahabi records about him in Tarikh al-Islam, Volume 8 page 294:
ولم يصح عن الوليد كفر ولا زندقة نعم اشتهر بالخمر والتلوط
‘It is not true that al-Waleed was Kafir or Zindeeq, yes he was known as drunkard and homosexual’

Jesus is Lord said...

@David Wood: Your work in impeccable brother! The reason I'm an apologist today is mostly because of you which I learned so much throughout the years, thank You!

The Teaching Of Islam Creates A Terrorist Who Wants To Die Waging Jihad:

► IN CANADA, Damian Clairmont Convert To Islam Dies Waging Jihad In Syria:
► IN FRANCE, Nicolas Bons was raised as an atheist. After he Converted To Islam, he became increasingly violent, and he died in a Terrorist attack in Syria.
► IN UNITED STATES, Terry Lee Loewen, Convert To Islam was charged for plotting a Suicide Bombing at a passenger terminal at the Wichita Mid-Continent Airport in Kansas.

► IN GERMANY, a young German who converted to Islam "Abu Osama," a name he picked because he "loved Osama bin Laden," and former player on the German national soccer team was killed after he joined a Sunni Islamic Group to Fight Jihad in Syria.
He was exhorting Muslims worldwide to join the Jihad Fight in Syria and establish a Caliphate to impose Islamic law on the entire globe.
Abu Osama then calls for global jihad, saying "my brothers and sisters, come to...Fight in Jihad, since Jihad is an active commandment on every Muslim. ...Donate Money (to Jihad)."
The German convert closes saying "we love death and we will win here."

► IN UNITED KINGDOM, Samantha Lewthwaite Converted to Islam. After marrying a Terrorist Group Member became herself an alleged member of the Somalia-based Radical Islamic Jihadist (Militant) Terrorist Group Al-Shabaab. She has been accused of orchestrating grenade attacks at non-Muslim places of worship and other atrocities.

This is a Quote (Below) from Her (Samantha) Islamic Group al-Shabaab:
QUOTE: “The Mujahideen punished with their hands those believing and worshiping other than Allah. The [holy warriors] will continue until such practice is eliminated."
SOURCE: al-Shabaab loyalist Sheikh Hassan Takar on why two churches were targeted with grenades and gunfire.

Bill Moser said...

Unknown,

The Rock G*D's people cannot agree on error.

The Recitation is the uncorrupted word of the Rock G*d.

You post contradicts the word of the Rock G*d.

Being one of the rightly guided Mohammedanians why are you wasting your time correcting a non-believer? The spiritual defectives of ISIL need the Generous Quran pronto. If your mission is to educate those deficient in their religion why not turn your attention to your fellow slaves of the Rock God? The Rock G*d knows best so be about your quest.

Samuel Green said...

Excellent post. I think our next move is to engage with the modern methods of Shariah.

Unknown said...

[Sisgp]"'Unknown' you are right I have Brother Usama's Quran"

Excellent. _The Generous Qur'an_ is harder to read than a typical English translation, given that it leaves the defective grammar in.

Salaam,
David Ford

Unknown said...

[ Bill Moser]"You post contradicts the word of the Rock G*d."

I see the "G*d"-- do you consider yourself Jewish?

"Being one of the rightly guided Mohammedanians why are you wasting your time correcting a non-believer?"

Non-believer in what?
What leads you to think I'm a Mohammedian? I can agree with the shahada's "There is no God but Allah"-- with Allah being the God of father Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
But I can't agree with the allegation that Mohammed is Allah's prophet-- the Quran is a piece of junk.

"If your mission is to educate those deficient in their religion"

I can't say I currently view that as a mission of mine.

Salaam,
David Ford

Nojmul Huda said...

Mr. "Unknown" like your name your faith is also unknown. We have no objection about your faith as long your faith does not hate non-believer of your faith. Let us stay focus on the subject "radicalization of young Muslims" by fake book Quran, believed to be dropped by Qur'anic Allah from heaven, who ordered Muslims to kill Christian, Jews and other non-Muslims for his name sake to increase his followers. That is hate crime and must be punished with applicable laws.

smalltallest88 said...

"Excellent. _The Generous Qur'an_ is harder to read than a typical English translation, given that it leaves the defective grammar in." Mr. Unknown


Has there be any book that is harder read? Your quran said that Allah has revealed the verses of the quran in a simple way. Why are you muslims making it a complicated book when the author siad it's revealed in a simple way?

I for one has no problem with your religion... Because it's what you guys choose to believed in. My problem with you people is killing of non-believers, over dependence on charms, marrying more than one wife and leave the kids to suffer, beating the woman you called your wife all in the name of sex etc. Mind you I live among muslim folks and I know their ways.

TAREK said...

Bravo Dr. David!
Job well done as usual.
GOD BLESS AND GUIDE you and your family AMEN.

David Ford said...

[Nojmul Huda]”Mr. ‘Unknown’ like your name your faith is also unknown.”

Re: my name, I invite you to read the entirety of one of my posts.

“your faith is… unknown”

Well wonder no longer:

I am a Nasara,
a follower of al-Nabia Isa ibn Maryam,
while the Allah of abba Abraham, Isaaq, and Yaqub is my Abba.

Or put another way,
I am a Christian,
a follower of the-Prophet Jesus the son of Mary,
while the God of father Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is my Father.

“….That is hate crime and must be punished with applicable laws.”

‘Hate crime’ laws aka ‘thought crime’ laws are dangerous and a threat to freedom.

Salaam,
David Ford

David Ford said...

[ smalltallest88]"Has there be any book that is harder read?"

For me, poetry books are very hard to read. But that's just me.

"quran said that Allah has revealed the verses of the quran in a simple way"

Reference?

"Why are you muslims making it a complicated book when the author said it's revealed in a simple way?"

Are there any Muslims here? If so, do you think you're making the Quran "complicated"?

David Ford said...

[Nojmul Huda]"Quran must be destroyed"

What can *you* do to help make that happen?

"Quran must be destroyed to save innocent human lives and not to repeat at any cost what happened to the girl in Oklahoma and around the world."

In August 2012, Brigitte Gabriel mentioned that there were at that time 44 conflicts around the world instigated by adherents of Islam. No doubt the number is higher now. Islam is a religion not of peace, but of death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rvdr8506fk