UNITED KINGDOM--This is the dramatic moment an armed robber, disguised as a Muslim woman in a burka, blagged his way into a jewellery store, and was followed by three accomplices who stole £30,000 of valuables in a gems raid.
He rang the bell of the Burnley store posing as a female customer, but as he was let in by unsuspecting staff, three of his gang followed wielding a rifle, sword and baseball bats.
They began smashing up the glass display cabinets and made off with their haul.
During the raid last February, the gunmen pointed the rifle at the staff as they put up their hands in fear.
The man in the burka pulled out a sword from under his cloak and began stuffing a bag full of traditional Asian jewels.
One of the gang kept watch outside and threatened onlookers with a baseball bat as his accomplices looted the store.
The shop owner was said to be 'very shaken' following the ordeal, but escaped unhurt.
The CCTV footage of the raid on February 19 last year at Muzaffar Jewellers in Burnley, Lancashire emerged as the four men were jailed for a total of 42 years after they pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit armed robberies.
Rais Atcha, 20, of Burwell Close, Bolton was jailed for 12 years, Fahim Kola, 19, of Bolton got 10 years and eight months, Mohammed Asif Khan, 26, of Bolton was given nine years and four months and Baber Khan, 25, of Bolton was jailed for 10 years and eight months.
None has admitted wearing the burka and police are unsure which of the looters was behind the stunt. (Read more.)
Tuesday, April 3, 2012
Burka Bandits Sentenced in UK
Just when you thought the burka was only a tool for oppressing women, a gang of robbers uses one to plunder the infidel.
So the hijab and Burka is for opressing women. You would have to talk to the millions of muslim women such as my mother who wear the hijab not because their husbands force them to (that is not the case mostly), but because God almighty commands them to. There are many muslim women around the world who wear the hijab with dignity, and are proud of it rather than ashamed of it. Is it just me, or has David wood been watching too much FOX news lately. David Wood commenting on the hijab is kind of like Geraldo Rivera commenting on Trayvon Marting. Absolute ignorance.
Once again you prove that you have lost the plot.
The question is not if woman want to wear the Hijab, Burka, Abiya, or any other such thing.
The question is being forced to wear it and being beaten, jailed, or even killed for not wearing it.
The other day I was standing in line behind a Muslim woman and her children. SHe was Palastinian I think, she had on a elegent gown very stunning actually, and she was wearing a hijab. She carried herself with dignity and class.
I have no problem with that and I think very few people have a problem.
However if she did not want to wear that beutiful gown and the beutiful head scarf then I wouldnt have a problem with that either.
The problem is when Men, pass laws focring them to wear it, when they jail them for not wearing it, when they beat them for not wearing it, when they KILL THEM for not wearing it. That is the problem and that is the problem with Islam. Something you don't seem to get.
Now I do have a problem with the Burka and the Abyia. IT CREEPS ME OUT.
However if a woman wants to wear that then she has to limit herself. For instance I do not think a woman who wishes to conceal her self should be allowed to drive like that. Its a distraction to other drivers also it limits periferal vision and hearing.
If she does have a liscence she should have to take that off along with woman who wear hijabs for their drivers licence photo's same said with any government ID.
Also walking into a bank or Jewelry store needs to be uncovered as well. Its a common sense safty issue as this case highlights.
Now the question to you Samatar. Do you have a problem with woman being forced by law with threat of imprisionment and beating to wear the Hijab, Burka, or Abyia?
This could be non-Muslims posing as female Muslims to obfuscate in their.
I didn't read the whole article before I posted my "possibility".
More Muslim Transvestites! They seem to pop up every day. It must be an Islamic thing!?!?
From that which you state, you above all others should be outraged at the desecration of Allah's commandment to wear the Burka by those who rob jewelry stores. You, instead, attempt to steer the conversation away from individuals who have desecrated Allah's commandment and Islam in general in a feeble attempt to initiate an off-topic conversation which centers on Trayvon Martin.
First it's the Taliban dressing up in women's clothes, then armed robbers in jewelry stores dressing up as women - is cross-dressing one of Islam's dirty little secrets?
Nope! Islam doesn't oppress women! The Koran and hadiths only gives for men to beat women when their disobedient,and say women have 1/2 the testimony of men, and that women are difficent in intelligence, and say hell is mostly women, and give men permission to marry multiple wives, but not women multiple men! Yep! Perfectly equal!
Of course, this has been all mentioned before, but you have a habit of ignoring what you don't like, or using weak arguments and then claiming it's "refuted". round and round again...
Nope! No oppression of women here!
I'm sure those criminals wore it with pride too. the most funny thing is its fellow muslim men who wear the burka to commit crimes.
Women who served in Omar's house and other Muslims at the time of Mohammed ... covered only between belly button and to their knees ...
The Islamic books describe how their Bre... were making the sound when they were serving Omar and his buddies ...
At one instance ... Omar kept beating the woman until she removed her cover!
So why now it is a big deal to show the face!
On Monday 2nd April 2012 some men dressed in burqas as a publicity stunt to try and get the outfit banned.
Members of the group Faceless ventured into a Sydney CBD courthouse, pub and bank without drawing much reaction but faced a stronger backlash later outside parliament. Nine News filmed a man outraged by the protesters, shouting in their faces and pulling off their veils.
David said that the Burka (and im assuming he includes the hijab) is a tool for oppressing women. Now who established this command that would supposedly oppress women. Allah (swt) commanded women to cover up modestly both in the Quran and hadith. Therefore, it would be safe to assume that David is accusing not only men who are punishing women for not covering up. But that he is also accusing Allah (swt) and his messenger for enforcing these rules. Now, what is the punishment for not wearing the hijab according to the hadith and Quran. I am not aware of any punishment that is authorized in the Quran and hadith. Therefore, what is the point that you are trying to establish. Are you saying that some men punish women for not wearing the hijab, which goes against our sources. Or are you saying that men punish women for not wearing the hijab which is in agreement with the Quran and Sunnah. If your answer is number one, than my point has been made and I applaud you for your honesty. But if you choose option 2, than bring me a source in the quran and authentic narrations that will show me a direct worldly punishment for not wearing the hijab. Until then, I have laid out my case.
On another note:
There was once a non muslim women who interrupted a muslim speaker shouting " why do these women wear the hijab when their naturak state is without the hijab". The speaker replied, " Why do you wear clothes when your natural state is being born without clothes." She said " Well ............ its modesty. The speaker replied " Modesty .......... well, more modesty ( meaning the muslim women who wear the hijab)."
Foolster, dont let the bigots fool you. Commonly misused Hadith and Quranic verses against women.
So you falsely accuse Islam because of a few inaccurate incidences? Even if they did happen, these Muslims have done the wrong thing and doesnt represent Islam, sorry.
Kangaroo: Of course, the first link doesn't really answer ANY of the points I put out.
The secondly one doesn't really answer either. It concludes
"Thus the fact that man has been favoured in some ways (for example with physical strenght) more than woman does not make him superior to her. It is only when his taqwa is more than hers that he can from the Qur'anic point of view be considered superior to her. And when a person's taqwa increases to a worthwhile level the question of his superiority does not interest him, for he or she realizes that all praises are due to God."
In other words, yes, muslims DO consider women deficent in intelligence/their testimony is worth half, but that doesn't mean they are inferior! It's a nonsense answer.
But I guess I've been "refuted" muslim-style (something was said, therefore it is a refutation).
I've actually READ those verses (and yes, the surrounding ones) so either the Quran isn't perfectly clear in what it says, or you are once again lying.
Also, it's been pointed out that answering-Muslims is a very poor source. The author has been shown to make numerous mistakes about Christianity, puts out personal attacks against people and uses many bad logical fallacies.
"So you falsely accuse Islam because of a few inaccurate incidences?"
I think you need to learn to count. 1,867 attacks since 9/11 is not "a few".
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