Wednesday, March 21, 2012

French Muslims Warn of Possible Anti-Muslim Backlash Following Brutal Massacre of Jewish Children by Muslim

Ever notice that Muslims always seem to be more worried about possible repercussions following Muslim terrorist attacks than they are about the victims of Muslim terrorist attacks? Here we go again. A French Muslim brutally murders Jewish children, and French Muslims can only think about themselves.

EURONEWS--France’s five-million strong Islamic community fears it may be subject to repercussions after it emerged the main suspect in the killing of seven people – including three young children – was Muslim.

In Toulouse itself, the message was one of tolerance.

“There are issues between Arabs and Jews,” said one man. “That’s not good. On earth we’re the same race.”

“Whatever you are, Jewish, Muslim, Arab or anything else, we are all the same blood,” added another.

Many Muslims already feel they are all viewed as potential extremists. In Paris one felt the media had focused on the wrong aspect of the killings.

“What shocked me most was that the victims were children,” he said. “But the media is putting the spotlight more on the fact it concerns Jews and Muslims or for example that a Muslim killed an Arab.”

Another added: “It’s true that tolerance regarding Islam is already greatly reduced. And what’s happening in Toulouse is inevitably going to raise fears.”

A joint appeal by the Jewish and Islamic communities for tolerance has been issued but plans for a joint rally on Sunday have been cancelled. (Source)

22 comments:

Traeh said...

Question to Islam from wikiislam website:

The Qur'an says Allah cannot have a son without a consort, yet claims Mary had a son without a consort. Is this not limiting Allah's omnipotence, and why is Mary capable of doing something Allah cannot?

Qur'an 19:20-21: "To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things."

Qur'an 6:101:
"She said: 'How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?' He said: 'So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us:It is a matter (so) decreed.'"

Mary said...

Repercussions? Yeah, let there be investigations and arrests and more arrests and trials and (at least)jail time. As for their fear of Jewish/Christian retaliation and revenge, that is fundamental to Islam. But, Jesus did warn that if you live by the sword you will die by the sword, and why should you be spared any and all consequences? The true God of the Bible says, "Vengeance is mine says the Lord. To God belongs the right of vengeance and rewarding; the unrighteous soul will fall in due time for the day of disaster is approaching and it will quickly arrive."Deut. 32:35 So, Jews and Christians seek reasonable justice but not vengeance.

Mary said...

"But Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I have no relations with a man?" And the angel said to her in reply, "The holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God." Luke 1:34-35

The angel Gabriel told Mary the Holy Spirit would cause her to be the mother of God. Why would the very same angel NOT tell Mohammad about the Holy Spirit of God? Yet, even Mohammad had to admit in the Qur'an that God, who created everything visible, can do whatever He wants. Creating the earth was not a sexual thing, and shame on Muslims who limit God to human sexuality.

Osama Abdallah said...

I am just curious here, why couldn't Muslims also have serial killers like you do?! Why does everything have to be attributed to Islam?

Al-Qaeda with this move has further isolated itself from the Muslims. In fact, when the Norway massacure happened, SO MUCH ANGER ALREADY ERRUPTED on the Arab TVs against Al-Qaeda, because they assumed it was them. Al-Qaeda was a heroic organization shortly after 9/11 for a shortwhile, but began to shrink and shrink in popularity due to their carelessness' to Muslims, and their ridiculous out of touch with reality that continues to throw ORDINARY MUSLIMS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING into very difficult positions where they have to apologize days and nights for their actions.

May Allah Almighty rest the souls of all of the victims, and may Allah Almighty have mercy on the brother who did this. He apparently wasn't taught by Al-Qaeda that killing innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

CristoTeAma said...

They judge us that way because they know that if it were a French guy killing 7 ppl in Argelia, they would be killing everything.

hugh watt said...

"Ever notice that Muslims always seem to be more worried about possible repercussions following Muslim terrorist attacks than they are about the victims of Muslim terrorist attacks?"

Yes, when I read the Koran and Islamic literature.

I was reading about the plight of females in Pakistan who are abducted, raped and forced into "marriage" with their Muslim abductors. When a few escape and report this to the police they are told the victim should return to her "husband" because she is now
considered to be a Muslim.

So, how would a Muslim counseling session go with such a person?

Victim - 'Counselor, I'm torn, distraught, dying inside from the
humiliation of my experience. What am I to do?'

Counselor - 'Have you even thought
about how your husband is feeling right now? Do you even try to understand what a terrible time he is going through right at this very moment? WHAT DID YOU WANT, FLOWERS?!!!'

Victim - 'Wha'..I..!!!'

Counselor - 'SHAME ON YOU! YOU OUGHT TO STOP THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF SO MUCH AND START PUTTING OTHERS BEFORE YOU!

Your husband has gone to such great lengths to capture you and show you just how much he longs for you and here you are, complaining about how he swept you off of your feet in the middle of the day and whisked you off to a secret location where the two of you could have a passionate clandestine tryst together. Then he marries you. This doesn't happen to every kuffar y'know. The Prophet (pbuh) honored a few females in his day with this highest of privileges and all you can do is...well...whinge!'

Victim - 'But...I never had a say in...'

Counselor - 'YOU NEVER HAD A SAY ABOUT WHAT?! Your husband treated you like how the Prophet (pbuh) left instructions on how women are to be won over by Muslim men and you find fault in this? Do yourself a favor, go get a copy of the Koran and Sunnah and do some reading. Perhaps a little education will help your infidel mind to better understand and appreciate Allah the most merciful and compassionate and his Prophet (pbuh).

Oh, do be sure to hand my card and best wishes to your husband. He must come and have a session with me when he regains some strength and peace of mind from all this.

NEXT!!!'

Dragostea said...

i was reading an article about this on yahoo and there was one guy commenting at the bottom saying that: "now they should trow him to pigs".
Still, the best comment was a reply saying that: "pigs dont eat muslim terrorists: it's against their religion to eat anything dirty"

On the other side: it just saddens me that this political correctness is more important than the truth. Nazism is forbidden now, but how come islam is not ? they both are made out of the same material: jews hate and claims of superior race.

CristoTeAma said...

Osama said:

"I am just curious here, why couldn't Muslims also have serial killers like you do?!"

>When you say "you" you refer to Christians or Jews right? well the problem with your analysis is that we don't have so many serial killers reciting the verses of the Bible before killing innocents, and even if a "Christian" claim to kill in the name of Christ, it would be incredible easy fore for us to prove that he is going against what Jesus taught, yet a Muslim killing in the name of Allah is incredible easy for us to prove that he is doing well according to what Muhammad taught (in the quran and hadith), so there is a big difference Osama, and you should be able to nitice it.

Then Osama said:

"He apparently wasn't taught by Al-Qaeda that killing innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam."

Wow the your prophet was very very hypocrite and sinner according to his own religion. I.E killing the ppl who can't pay the Jyzzia (for being poor,etc) yet wanting to remain Christian or Jew, aren't they innocents?

I hope i can one day find a muslim who can be honest with others and himself.

Osama Abdallah said...

CristoTeAma,

What does the Jizyah have to do with anything here?! Spreading the Truth of GOD Almighty to the lost mankind is a duty upon every Muslims.
Once the land is conquered, then everyone is at peace. The Jizyah is money paid to the State to provide the Dhimmies in return protection and freedom to practice their religion. Dhimmie is derived from Dhimmah, which means integrity. So it's a title of honor to those who are under us in case you didn't know. It's not a title of degredation.

******************************
OPEN CHALLENGE:


As to killing of civilians, show me where does Islam allow it. Give me quotes.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

David Wood said...

Gotta love Osama's "Islam-light" version of the Jizyah. According to Muhammad, Jizyah is a source of humiliation:

Sahih al-Bukhari, Ch. 88—Narrated Ibn Umar that the Prophet said, “My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya.”

Ibn Kathir agrees. He comments on 9:29: "Allah said, (until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam, (with willing submission), in defeat and subservience, (and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated."

Cranky White Woman said...

@Osama: Practicing Christians and Jews do not murder people. If a person calling them self Christian or Jew murders somebody, he does so IN SPITE of his religion. If a Muslim murders somebody, he does it BECAUSE of his religion. See the difference?

Osama Abdallah said...

Dhimmie means one who is under the responsibility of the State's Law, Standards, Integrity and Protection. He is a free citizen inside the Islamic State, and he has the right upon the State to protect him. This is why he is under the State's Dhimmah.

Think of it this way: Timothy McVeigh, despite the overwhelming hatered towards him by the local people of Oklahoma City, but despite all of that, he was still under the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY POLICE, and they were responsible for protecting him from harm until his judgement came. Timothy McVeigh was OKC's Dhimmie. NO ONE COULD TOUCH HIM! If harm happened to him by others inside the prison or outside the prison (during his appearances in public while being transfered), then OKC would be responsible.

Dhimmies in Islam are given protection. You could not deny this. And the title itself is derived from a very honorable word: integrity (dhimmah). No Arabic speaking Christian could refute this.

As to them paying in humiliation, of course they'd pay under the authority of the Islamic State and not theirs. The Holy Quran uses the word "saaghiroon" (being diminished or brought lower in status). Their mightyness is over. Their arrogance is over. But still, they are the State's Dhimmies and responsibility.

I hope this helps.

Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Radical Moderate said...

@Osama Abdullah

What destroyed Al Quida's rep was not AL Quida killing kufar, it was AL Quida kiling Muslims in Iraq.

So don't go boo hooo hooing AL Quida to us you know perfectly well Osama Bin Dead is still THe Sheik of many many Muslims.

Billy said...

Osama: "I am just curious here, why couldn't Muslims also have serial killers like you do?!"

But Muslims do have serial killers, the most infamous being Mohammad himself.

Osama: "Why does everything have to be attributed to Islam?"

Do you think the violent verses of the Quran have anything to do with it? Say for example, chapter 9 verses 5, 14, 20, 29, 30, 38, 39, 41, 42, 73, 88, 111, 123.

Lindert said...

Osama said:
"Dhimmies in Islam are given protection. You could not deny this. And the title itself is derived from a very honorable word: integrity (dhimmah). No Arabic speaking Christian could refute this."

Yes, dhimmies are given protection in Islam. In exactly the same way the mafia offers protection; from themselves that is. And of course they do have to pay the protection money (jizya) in order to be 'protected', otherwise muslims are commanded to fight them.

Billy said...

Osama said: “Think of it this way: Timothy McVeigh, despite the overwhelming hatered towards him by the local people of Oklahoma City, but despite all of that, he was still under the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY POLICE, and they were responsible for protecting him from harm until his judgement came. Timothy McVeigh was OKC's Dhimmie.”

Osama, you have explained what a dhimmie is with some accuracy. According to you, a dhimmy—a Christian living in an Islamic country—is treated like a criminal, hated and threatened by local Muslims. However, in most cases the Islamic governments don’t protect the Christians as the state of Oklahoma protected McVeigh. Nevertheless, thanks for that excellent analogy that illustrates that Christians are treated as criminals, hated, and threatened by the local Muslims in Islamic countries.

D335 said...

No one in the west can shake the feeling that one of the muslims around them could turn out just like maj. Nidal or the Moh. Merah.

Foolster41 said...

@Osama: Oh, you're back? Ready to apollogize for slandering me by falsely saying I want hate crimes against Muslims to happen, simply because I don't think they happen (a strange leap in logic!)?

I also cited sources to show how hate crimes against muslims don't happen all the often.
I denounced all hate crimes and terror groups against muslims, and asked you to do the same. Will you now denounced HAMAS (who you once praised for low crime!)?

Also, will you apologize for falsely saying 1 Chron 5:5 means to kill apostates when it clearly does not?

CristoTeAma said...

@Osama
David said it better than i would i will just copy and paste:

David said: Gotta love Osama's "Islam-light" version of the Jizyah. According to Muhammad, Jizyah is a source of humiliation:

Sahih al-Bukhari, Ch. 88—Narrated Ibn Umar that the Prophet said, “My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya.”

Ibn Kathir agrees. He comments on 9:29: "Allah said, (until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam, (with willing submission), in defeat and subservience, (and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated."

And about your other post trying to tell us that Dhimmies means what you try trid to say, i think this same verse can help you to know your religion because it seems you don't (willingly) know it or you try to deceive us. If i live under the protection of Islam being a Christian and that makes me a Dhimmi, why is it just the the one according to the quran and hadith that is humilliated, subdued, etc etc, why it isn't described this way when it comes to a Muslim living under Islamic protection, i mean you really can't see the facts or you just chose not to see it, Islam is everything but peace, tolerance and all the lies muslims have been spreading.

Baron Eddie said...

@ Osama Abdallah

You put this challenge

"As to killing of civilians, show me where does Islam allow it. Give me quotes."

Quran teaches that we are Kufar!

let see what Kufar(plural of Kafir) means ...

The word Kafir is a discriminatory and racial ...

Where Kufar is treated as less value than a Muslims

We read in Surat Yunus 17 that Kufar are "criminals"

"So who is more unjust than he who invents a lie about Allah or denies His signs? Indeed, the criminals will not succeed"

Also in Surat Al-Jathiayh 31

"But as for those who disbelieved, [it will be said], "Were not Our verses recited to you, but you were arrogant and became a people of criminals?"

And in Surat Al-Qalam 35 and 36

"Then will We treat the Muslims like the criminals?"
"What is [the matter] with you? How do you judge?"

I say the same thing to you!
How you judge ... come on
What is the matter with you Osama ...

It's a title of degradation

Here is a question for you

Would an Islamic court accept the testimony
of A Christian against a Muslim?


Whenever Islam has the financial or military ability ...

Islam will kill what it can
Islam will enslave whom they can enslave
Islam will make whom submit

In Friday prayers Imams will scream those are Kufar,
those are criminals, those are Anjas!

They charge up the crowed
And the first church they see they will burn it
and kill the criminals!

Baron Eddie said...

The second point is that

Kufar are worst than animals!

In Surat Al-Anfal 55

"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe "

So basically the existence of non-Muslims or non-existence is not important ...

so if they(non-Muslims) get killed is not important!

Baron Eddie said...

@ Osama

you have been refuted