PAKISTAN--A teenage Pakistani woman on Monday told of her terror as her husband chopped off her nose and lips in a furious marital row, and threatened to kill herself unless the police brought him to justice.
The horrifying case underscores the brutal violence suffered by some women in Pakistan, where a domestic violence bill lapsed in 2009 after being held up in the Senate due to objections from religious parties.
Salma Bibi, 17, said her husband, 22-year-old Ghulam Qadir, subjected her to a beating, then bound her hands and feet with rope and hacked into her face with a razor in a remote village in the southwestern province Baluchistan.
"He repeatedly slapped my face and then went into the room and brought with him a locally made, sharp razor," she told AFP, speaking Baluchi in remarks translated by her uncle from a hospital bed in central Multan city.
"I started shouting in panic. He tied my hands and foot with a rope and chopped off my nose and lips," she added.
The teenager said police refused to register a case when her family complained about the attack, and threatened to kill herself without justice.
"I want justice and if it is not delivered to me, I will immolate myself in front of the Supreme Court.
"I will not sit in peace until my husband is brought to justice and gets punishment for the crime he committed," she added. (Read more.)
Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Pakistani Muslim Chops off Wife's Lips and Nose
Muslims keep telling us that Sharia will improve our societies. Ask the women of Pakistan how Sharia is helping them. (Notice the article says that a law against domestic violence was dropped due to delays caused by "religious parties." There are Christians, Hindus, and Muslims in Pakistan. Care to guess which "religious party" blocked the bill?)
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I guess this guy took Osama Abullas adivice
"I skin her alive..."
I'm sure Osama Abdullah, KIM and others after the denial will come up with some excuse ohhh wait here is one.
""They often had quarrels as the girl used to spend more time with her parents," said Nadir Khan, an administration official in Musa Khel district, part of violence-torn Baluchistan, which borders Afghanistan and Iran."
Yea David keep posting nonsense about Islam.
She was guilty of being female and at the same time, expecting civilized behavior from a Muslim. Yeah, that's it. Shame on her!
That's all that's required in societies dominated by the hate-filled and racist, misogynist cult of Islam.
Justice? She'll probably be murdered for being too uppity. Or, the "Supreme Court" will be only too glad to provide accelerant and fire for her self-immolation.
Friends don't let friends marry Muslims. Friends don't let friends live NEAR Muslims. Friends don't let friends REMAIN Muslims.
Female = Worthlessness in Islam.
All together everybody:
Allahu Ohynkksmoor!
Allahu Ohynkksmoor!
Kafir and disgusted!!
If Osama and Kim can’t come up with some excuse, they will start calling us names that we are bigots and have no understanding of Islam.
Mr. Osama, can you please tell Ghulam Qadir that he completely misunderstood the clear verse of Allah in the Quran Sura 4:34, “As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them;” He should have been presenting his wife with roses every day as the verse calls for. Right Mr. Osama? Why is it that Moslems in the world don’t understand such clear revelation of Allah to love and respect their wives as Mr. Osama understands this verse to be. Are they that stupid? Am I missing something here? Isn’t sura 4:34 calling for Moslem men to love their wives and to respect them as Mr. Osama understands it.
I think Allah was using reverse psychology when he delivered Sura 4:34 to Mohammand. By saying beat your wives he actually meant, present your wife a dozen roses. Maybe, he should have been upfront and straight forward with Moslems as God of the Bible is to Christians. This is how God instructs us how to treat our wives. Ephesians 5:25, “Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” And Ephesians 5:28, “In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.”
The root problem, of course, is not merely that the Pakistani legal system does not protect women (and children) from abusive men, since any sane, self-controlled person should know this law in their hearts and refrain from such deplorable actions.
Ultimately, the Islamic faith itself lays the foundation for a societal (and spiritual) framework which demeans the status and intrinsic worth of women. Women are veiled, secluded, and guarded for the sake of men's honor. They are treated like possessions or pets--not people. It's no wonder that a man should feel so much rage when his wife is not completely subservient. He doesn't see her as having any rights apart from what he allows her to do. Islam does not command a man to slice off his wife's body parts, but Islam is at fault for devaluing women in such a way that makes this horrifying kind of behavior unsurprising in Muslim countries.
OH MY GOD! ADONAI, PLEASE get rid of Islam!!!!!
I am sure he first he admonished her that did not work than he slept apart that did not work than he beat her (lightly) that did not work. Quran ran out of ideas after that so did he.
disingenious to say the least.Youa re trying to connect the dots and draw the picture that you clearly wish to see. Shariah is not implemented in any of the muslims land. The laws of pakistan arent representative of shariah ,the issue between law devising cabinet and islamic parties is altogether another debate. this is an extremely poor effort,if it can be considered that at all ,to understand the pakistanis issues and then drive home a point about shariah.
Stop being such an islamophobe David. This has nothing to do with Islam.
It's obvious that a CIA spy chopped off her lips and nose. And then framed it on a muslim to make him look bad.
It's just part of the conspiracy to make all muslims look bad. Because muslims can't look bad.......on their own.
Or,
You have to read this story in context. Please don't misquote the story.
Or,
am I missing a standard excuse? I think I'm missing one.
She should torture and mutilate him and then kill herself.
"Mr. Osama, can you please tell Ghulam Qadir that he completely misunderstood the clear verse of Allah in the Quran Sura 4:34...."
RESPONSE:
I don't need to tell him anything. It is part of Islam to implement the eye for an eye law. These ludicrous non-Shariah governments should implement such law. Male dominated tribes have infested the Muslim world and corrupted it like lice. Islam is innocent from all of this garbage. Islam guarantees the rights of citizens through very clear and tough laws. Murders to tribal countries get lots of break, because the country is ruled by animals and not Islam. Prophet Muhammad would've punished this guy as he punished his wife.
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Also, Islam doesn't allow for the man to beat his wife. When will you stop spweing this desperate lie? Islam only allows the beating after the 2nd warning of a flirty and loose wife. Big difference. In the days of the swords, if your wife was flirty and loose, you'd probably crucify her! Don't act now like you would'nt have done it during those days. If you compare Islam to those days, then Islam is certainly very very merciful, and more than merciful to those types of women. In my article at: www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm, I quoted the objections of some Muslims to this Mercy. They objected to how can Allah Almighty expect them to maintain their sanity with such women and not hurt them too fatally bad. *****SEE WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S RESPONSE WAS.
And even today and till the Day of Judgement, this Law is still reasonable and fair to the flirty and dishonrable wives, as long as the country's law doesn't prohibit it. Muslims are forbidden from putting themselves into legal troubles. I quoted the Glorious Quran about this also in the article.
I think this should answer this thread. *****I feel deeply sorry for the girl, AND I FEEL ENRAGED that the guy is not punished.. I think a Pakistani Spring is badly needed over there against the clowns overthere who think they own Islam.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
Few more points:
1- Let's take the worst case scenario and say that the guy had the right to beat his wife. The Glorious Quran Says "beat" them, and not "maim" them.
The beating's goal is to discipline. Maiming is not. You could not possibly sit here and prove that Islam allows for maiming the wife! Prove that, and I promise ALL OF YOU, I will be the loudest in condemning Islam for this! It will be all over my website!
Do we have a deal?
2- Judgements in Islam are done by the State, and not individuals. For example, even if my wife say committed adultery, I have no right to stone her to death (IN Islam, the adulterer and/or the adulteress is/are to be stoned to death). The State and the Caliph would have to judge that, and the execution will be done by the staff who take care of executions. Individual citizens don't have any right to pass judgements. In the case of this guy, the eye for an eye law would apply on him.
Again, tribes-dominated countries are full of BS that Islam is innocent from.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
Careless said...
" disingenious to say the least.Youa re trying to connect the dots and draw the picture that you clearly wish to see."
I would wager that Muslims are much likely to do that to prevent non-Muslims to see Islam as better than it is. Muslims are good at propaganda. Their religion would look much worse if not for it.
"Shariah is not implemented in any of the muslims land."
I don't believe you; but, for the sake of argument, why?
What I see is that Islam is just corrupt. The best that you are going to get is for the Muslims to abandon all of the surahs and ayat that came from Medina. That would effectively dwarf Islam into a more tolerant/respectable religion. I don't see that happening without abandoning Islam altogether.
"The laws of pakistan arent representative of shariah ,"
Well, I don't think that anyone here is saying that it perfectly follows Mohammad's idea; but, it does get close if those surahs from Medina are to be taken seriously. The myth is that there is a perfect sharia and that we can't see that until there is a caliphate in place. My response is that one doesn't need a caliphate to interpret the Qu'ran and implement it. That much should be obvious.
"the issue between law devising cabinet and islamic parties is altogether another debate."
They are not perfect either; but, they are making an attempt to follow sharia in some form or another. Unless you can show in historical context that their actions violate the Qu'ran and Sunnah, then you won't be able to convince me.
"this is an extremely poor effort,if it can be considered that at all ,to understand the pakistanis issues and then drive home a point about shariah."
Really! I think that you have put forth a poor effort to defend your position. I don't mind your opinion; but, bring some facts to back it up.
To further prove to you that tribe-dominated countries are ruled by animals (who have infested Islam like lice) and not normal people, look at the former Libyan dictator, Muammar Al-Gaddafi. Look at how his tribe fought to the finish to protect this animal, despite the fact that they were overwhelmingly poor. He and his sons had all of the country's wealth. They didn't do it out of the fear of Allah Almighty! They only did it, and they admitted, to protect their "blood". There is an old tribal Arabic saying that says:
***** ME AND MY BROTHER AGAINST MY COUSIN, AND ME AND MY COUSIN AGAINST THE STRANGER. *********
Islam is innocent from all of this garbage!! Islam is 10000000% innocent from all of this garbage!!! Allah Almighty Said in the following Noble Verse and in many other Noble Verses:
"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, ******* even as against Yourselves, or your PARENTS, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"
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Even after the death of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, the civil wars that took place all happened due to the tribal garbage! Ali and his tribe VS the Umayyah tribe! IT'S A CANCER THAT THE MODERN-DAY ARABS AND MUSLIMS NEED TO GET RID OF. The Libyans are making progress on this. They forgave the animals who defended Gaddafi and even raped Libyan women (Did you see the Libyan girl on CNN who was sodomized with a broom stick by these animals?) to the finish, and didn't slaughter them one by one, and rape their women, as was greatly feared/expected. The Libyan nation forgave them as the Prophet forgave the Meccans when he liberated it. It's a good sign. They're heading towards the correct Islam.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
Osama: "Also, Islam doesn't allow for the man to beat his wife."
Osama: "Islam only allows the beating after the 2nd warning of a flirty and loose wife."
Osama: "There are several reasons why a man NOT ONLY SHOULD BEAT HIS WIFE, but beat the day lights out of her as well!" [*]
Osama: "The Glorious Quran Says "beat" them, and not "maim" them...You could not possibly sit here and prove that Islam allows for maiming the wife!"
Osama: "If Bethsheba was my sister, then believe me, all of her brothers, including myself would skin her alive along with her boyfriend."[*]
I think Osama's next debate opponent should be himself. Maybe in the context of a publicly moderated debate against himself he could finally get his story straight.
Dear Mr. Osama Abdulla,
Thank you for the response and I must commend you for being civil this time and that you did not start calling names.
In respond to your response. You say that, “I don't need to tell him anything. It is part of Islam to implement the eye for an eye law.” Islam did not implement it, the God of the bible did thousands of years before Mohammad. It had its place in time and history but it no longer exists. The Lord Jesus changed it, Matthew 5:37-39, “You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” We are under grace now.
2. You say, “Male dominated tribes have infested the Muslim world and corrupted it like lice. Islam is innocent from all of this garbage.” How can you say this? Moslem world is based on male domination. Women have half the brain, women get half the inheritance, women can’t beat the husband, women are men’s tilth, women won’t get 70 virgin males, women can’t even go to the mosque etc etc. So how can you say that Islam is innocent from this garbage? Islam IS male domination.
3. You say, “Prophet Muhammad would've punished this guy as he punished his wife.” This is the whole point. Your prophet punished his wife and so did this guy according to wife beating in the Quran. Do we ever see the husband getting punished in Islam?
4. You say, “Also, Islam doesn't allow for the man to beat his wife. When will you stop spweing this desperate lie?” But in the very next sentence you contradict your self. “Islam only allows the beating after the 2nd warning of a flirty and loose wife.” Then in the second thread you say, “The Glorious Quran Says "beat" them, and not "maim" them.” So what is it? Does Islam allow or does not allow wife beating? According to you, it does. So who is spewing lies? And where do you get “flirty and loose”. Aren’t you adding to your own scripture. Can you please give us some reference? Quran does not make any distinction which wife to beat. And no, no Christian would have crucified his wife even in those days. Look in the history, there is no oppression of wives in Christianity. We are to love our wives as our own bodies.
So by your own mouth, you have proved that Islam allows wife beating. Now I have never heard any one claiming that Islam allows maiming. You are the one who is trying to draw our attention to maiming to make wife beating look like it is not a big deal.
I hope that thru these dialogues, some day you will see the truth which is only found in Jesus Christ and His word.
@The Berean Search,
Thank you for noticing the contradictions in Osama's responses.
@Osama, seriously, do you read your responses before you post them? You see, you can not defend the Quran logically. You want to prove that Quran is perfect but your logic does not allow you to do that. E.g., Quran says that beat your wife. You want to prove it wrong but logic won't let you. There fore in your own response you contradict your self. And then you wonder why people laugh at you.
I really feel sorry for you.
"The Lord Jesus changed it, Matthew 5:37-39, “You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, DO NOT RESIST THE ONE WHO IS EVIL. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” We are under grace now."
RESPONSE:
The New Testament is not the Word of GOD Almighty. I do not have to follow it. I am a Muslim, not a Christian. The NT also has very irrational statements that were mentioned on the mouth of Christ, like this one, that can not be applied anywhere.
In your own quote above, you are to not resist evil. So if I were to approach you to maim you, then you are to obey. You must not resist, even if you deep inside yourself wanted to. Notice how Christ supposedly said this after the ******** "EYE FOR AN EYE" quote ******. This means that Christ ordered you to not resist the one who is doing harm to you EVEN IF HE WERE TO PLUCK YOUR EYE! We're not talking about slapping you on the face here, or dissing you with cheap words, and you not resisting it. No, we're talking about maiming you and you are to stand there and allow it. I wonder how can you also apply this if it were on your precious child.
THE TWO WOMEN = ONE MAN LIE:
Now as to women having half the men's brains, that is a lie on Islam. The Glorious Quran gives the status of the man's testimony, and only the testimony, being equal to two womens' because women are emotional and in many times lack integrity because of their emotional nature. Men are less emotional. This is why you don't cry as often as your wife would/did/does. ******** AND BY THE WAY, YOU WOULD NEED 4 MALE TESTIMONIES TO PROVE A CHARGE against a woman, in the Glorious Quran. This has nothing to do with brain and intelligence. It's a standard. Something Christianity greatly lacks, which in turn requires for its followers to make up laws left and right for it.
As to inheritance, this proves your lack of knowledge on Islam. And if you were a Middle Eastern, then this proves your bigotry and hate and lies. The reason for this is the following:
1- A man is responsible for his father, mother, wife, children and widowed sisters. Any one of them can take him to court and have him be forced to pay money on monthly and/or regular basis to them if he decides to neglect them.
2- A woman is not obligated to pay a single dollar to any soul on this earth! The man has the full responsibility to pay for the mortgage/rent, utility bills, children and her expenses. Even if she works and even if she makes more money than him, she is not OBLIGATED to pay a single dollar, by Islamic Law.
The money that the woman gets, either through inheritance or through dowry marriage payment is meant to provide her means of security and financial stability. So that piece of land and/or large herd of cattles that she owns can be used to provide her protection should she become an orphan, widow or a divorcee.
************** Now having said that, show me how the man getting double the inheritence is unfair to the woman.
3- The Bible's OT says that only the sons inherit. The daughters inherit nothing. What makes you think that your man-made laws, such as a man and woman inherit the same amounts, that you call "Christian Laws" (which are not even in the NT) are Biblically justified? Christ said that he did not come to ABOLISH THE LAW. He did not come to discontinue it. He did not come to nullify it. He did not come to have it be discontinued. So what makes you think that your "Christian Laws" are Biblically justified?
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
@Osama Abdallah:
You criticize tribal influences for the mess in Islamic lands as an explanation for what you realize is problematic for Islam. You can hide behind that explanation; but, don't you realize that Islam originated from that very tribal mentality that was advanced by your own prophet?
Should I inform you that there were other parts of the world that were a lot more civilized than Arabia and having had much better standards? You seem to equate morality with Arabia rather than with the wider sense of civilization. Jesus had already taught that eye for eye was not the way to deal with humanity. Jesus commanded us to love and pray and care for those who didn't love us. Mohammad was hell bent on disobeying that command.
I also find it ironic and hypocritical for a religion like Islam to call for an eye for eye when it doesn't accept that from other religions and non-Muslims who should be able to reciprocate that some rule against Muslims, especially in times like today where we have Muslims moving to other lands and causing havoc. This leads up to another teaching of Jesus who proclaimed that we should do unto others as we would have done unto us (paraphrased). If Muslims want to defeat the kuffar and subdue him, then a Muslim should have no complaints if someone does the same thing to them. Muslims would not allow that and would yell intolerance, injustice, persecuation, oppression, etc. How hypocritical!
@ Osama Abdallah:
Your logic of not having an Islamic state to make rulings is weak, IMO. If there is no state to make certain rulings, then it would be impossible to punish certain crimes. That means that those crimes would have to go unpunished? I don't think so.
Osama said,"Male dominated tribes have infested the Muslim world and corrupted it like lice. Islam is innocent from all of this garbage."
I couldn't help wondering if you think about what your opinion says about Islam. If Islam is the answer to all human/societal problems, how is it that it fails miserably in Muslim-majority countries like Pakistan? Surely, the One True God is not so weak and incompetent to send a religion that is only as effective as wishful thinking.
Culture is more influential than Islam, apparently. 1400 of existence--no, since time began, i.e. since Adam--and Islam still fails to transform humanity. Humanity is doing a great job attempting to transform Islam, though. Allah is lucky to have his creation clean up Islam to have some kind of positive impact in the world. They make him look good--barely.
LOL at Osama's beating " flirty wives " comment.
If I was his wife I would flirt brazenly in his presence every single day. The sleeping apart 'punishment' he would inflict upon me would be worth the subsequent beating, imo.
In fact, in an effort to banish all doubt in his mind as to my flirtatious ways, I would change my name by deed poll to Flirty bin Gertie and have it tattoed on my face.
"LOL at Osama's beating " flirty wives " comment.
If I was his wife I would flirt brazenly in his presence every single day. The sleeping apart 'punishment' he would inflict upon me would be worth the subsequent beating, imo.
In fact, in an effort to banish all doubt in his mind as to my flirtatious ways, I would change my name by deed poll to Flirty bin Gertie and have it tattoed on my face."
RESPONSE:
LOL Gabriella!! I don't think I would need to do much actually. I'd just tell the neighbors' WOMEN on you. To them, they'd have so much at stake from you. Their daughters being influenced by you, and their husbands and sons actually getting attracted to you. LOL, they'd drag you from your hair all around the town. You wouldn't need to worry about any man, including your husband, laying a finger on you :).
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
@Osama you exposed the failure of Islam again. You wrote...
"LOL Gabriella!! I don't think I would need to do much actually. I'd just tell the neighbors' WOMEN on you. To them, they'd have so much at stake from you. Their daughters being influenced by you, and their husbands and sons actually getting attracted to you. LOL, they'd drag you from your hair all around the town. You wouldn't need to worry about any man, including your husband, laying a finger on you :)."
Ever notice that Islams solution for everything is VIOLENCE.
BTW Osama just to let you know, that woman cheet on their husbands becasue their not getting the affection and love they need at home. So if yuo where to follow the qurans adivice on marital bliss you would drive your wife into the arms of another Man.
Osama remember when you are "Admonishing your wife" their is another man who will talk to her softly.
Osama when you are "banishing your wife to her bed" their is another man who is willing to take your wife into his bed.
Osama and while you are "beating your wife" thier is another man who will take you wife into his arms and lover her gently.
Dear Mr. Osama,
You did not respond to my earlier reply regarding Islam allowing wife beating. Since you did not refute it, and since you were given facts from your own words and the quran, we have once again proven to you that Isalm does allow wife beating. So no one is spewing lies, as matter of fact, Christians are the ones spreading the truth about Quran.
Now, as usual, you have taken a verse that I quoted and completely mutiliated the interpertation. I do not expect you to understand the bible since you can not understand simple and plain text of Quran, “beat your wife”. So let me try to explain the verse I quoted to you. You have to read the whole bible to understand the principals. What Christ is telling us in Matthew is that do not repay evil for evil. In the same gospel we read, Matthew 15:19, “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.” If we take your interpretation that, “You must not resist, even if you deep inside yourself wanted to”, then we must submit to all of the evil as mentioned above. However, that is not what the bible tells us to do. In Romans 12:21, “Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” So the verse in Matthew 5:37 does not mean to submit to evil. What it means is, not to repay evil for evil. For we we see that in the same verse it says, “But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” If some one slaps you, do not slap him back, rather show meekness and humility. In 1 Thessalonians 5:15 we read, “See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.”
If you were to approach me to maim me, I am not going to submit to you. I will defend myself, but if it so happens that with the evil you have in your heart to maim me, you do succeed, I will not to seek ways to take revenge and maim you in turn. Matthew 12:35, “The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil.” This is why you don’t see Christians raping Moslem girls in turn when Christian girls are raped. This is why you don’t see Christians burning mosques in turn when churches are burned.
You see this is the difference between a moslem and a christian. This is the difference between Christ’s teaching and Mohammad. 1 Thessalonians 5:15, “See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.”
This is why you said what you said to Gabriella. There is no way you can repay good for evil in Islam. You will always find ways to repay evil with more and bigger evil. The only way out of this is Jesus Christ. May God have mercy on you and may he open your eyes to see the truth.
Continued.
Mr. Osama Abdulla,
Regarding your comment on “THE TWO WOMEN = ONE MAN LIE:”
Again, it appears that you are the one who is spreading lies about your own religion. Where in the world do you find any reference of half testimony of a women because of her emotional nature. Let me jog your memory:
The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence.” (Sahih Bukhari 1.301, Sahih Bukhari 2.541) And again, Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
“The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind." (Sahih Bukhari 3.826)
It is so clear from the above reference that witness of a woman equals half of man and that the reason is deficiency of her mind. It seems like Chrisitans are the ones spreading the truth about Islam and you are the one spewing lies about your own religion. Do you see anywhere in the above referrence mentioned anything about emotions?
It is also a proven fact that women pay much more attention to the details. If a woman is a witness to an event, she can give you much more details then a man. If the judge has to get a witness to an accident, what does emotion has to do any thing with telling what you saw. Like I said earlier, you want to prove that Quran and your religion are true, but logic won’t allow it.
Osama said: "The New Testament is not the Word of GOD Almighty. I do not have to follow it. I am a Muslim, not a Christian. "
OH YES IT IS AND OH YES YOU DO!!!
He told you he sent down the Injeel. Are you saying your higher up than Allah??? You can make the rules now?
He also said you have to follow what is therein!!!
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