Friday, June 24, 2011

Pat Condell: Name the Poison

17 comments:

Joe Bradley said...

Pat Condell really gets right to it.

As he points out, the West's political correctness will be it's downfall.

1MoreMuslim said...

Robert Morey has written an article, you must check this:
Robert Morey hoe to defeat Islam


First, as I wrote in my book, How to Win the War Against Radical Islam, the war against the Muslim Jihadists will be long and costly and will not be won until we bomb the Kabah in Mecca. Islam is based on a brick and mortar building that can be destroyed. They pray to that building five times a day, make a pilgrimage to it, run around it, kiss a black rock on the wall, then run between two hills and finally throw rocks at a pillar. What if that building, the Kabah, was destroyed? They could not pray to it or make a pilgrimage to it. The old pagan temple of the moon-god, al-ilah, is the Achilles' heel of Islam. Destroy it and you destroy Islam's soul.

I wonder when the Christians would apply Jesus commandment to LOVE your enemy. You just can't be a good Christian?

Stormbringer said...

You should hear James White go on about that Morey quote. It's one of the stupidest things he's ever heard. Check "The Dividing Line" podcast at Alpha and Omega ministries.

Lindert said...

@1MoreMuslim
"I wonder when the Christians would apply Jesus commandment to LOVE your enemy."

I'd like to point out that ever since they were made, many Christians have already distanced themselves from these statements of Robert Morey. I invite you to listen to dr. James White's comments on this, who calls it "The dumbest thing ever said about Islam". (link)

You are right to point out the inconsistency of Christians who fight evil with evil, but you are not alone. The idea to bomb Mecca is repulsive to the vast majority of Christians. Robert Morey also advocated "destroying Iran" by bombing its nuclear plants. An insane and evil plan that would kill millions of citizens. God said

not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit''

and also

''Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written: "vengeance is Mine, I will repay", says the Lord.''

And this is exactly the difference between Islam and Christianity. When 'Christians' come up with evil plans, they are rebuked by their fellow believers. When Muslims attempt violence and killing, they are invariably defended by others and their crimes are downplayed.

Peter said...

I'm from Denmark, and most of the rapes here are also committed by non-western immigrants.

These immigrants and their children are extremely prominent in all kinds of violent crimes and we have the statistics and figures to prove it. All reports have shown the same thing.

Some of the most criminal people in Denmark (especially violent crimes) are the Somali, Lebanese and Palestinian. And the top 8 nationalities committing crime in Denmark are muslim countries.

This is true even when you consider social and economic backgrund (which means that it has nothing to do with poverty etc.).

But when people mention it, they are generally called racist or nazi both by "politacally correct" Danes and by people in other countries.

Radical Moderate said...

I don't see nuking mecca as a a solution to the Islamic Question.

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Deleting said...

@Peter you're right. Denmark needs to start deporting some of those immigrants instead of trying to find a reason why their doing it.

@1mm Did you pray today? Towards the kaaba? Hmm. Odd. I guess a lot of people aren't taking up Robert Morey's advice. But you know what, that makes sense. Christians follow CHRIST and not Morey.
Talk is cheap. We show love, even to those people who obviously know N-O-T-H-I-N-G about it.

Radical Moderate said...

I disagree with the Nuke Mecca solution to the Muslim Question.

The political solution to Islam, is in fact Islam it self.

Isolation. Muslim want to be Isolated from the rest of the world. They want their own laws, Allah wants his rights so let him have it.
For Muslims living in the US Repatriation to "Islamic Laws" and Reservations for those that can not be deported.

Containment. No more importing of Islam's greatest Import, MUJAHEDDIN. We must stop the immigration in the west of Muslim refugee's fleeing Islam in their own country. Only to try and implement the very thing they are fleeing in the first place.

Stop involving ourselves in their political affairs. You can not bring a people into the 21st century who want to live in the primitive savage culture of 7th century Arabia.

Stop killing Muslims to stop Muslims from killing MUSLIMS.

People what are we doing bombing Libya? We are killing Muslims to stop Muslims from Killing other Muslims. How does this make any sense?

What are we still doing in Afgan?
We have killed Osama Bin Ladden, killed or captured everyone involved in 9-11. So why are we still there?

Iraq- although we have seen a drastic draw down. I think we are at a little over 50,000 support troops, we are still there. Muslims are still killing Muslims in Iraq.

Well that's my two cents.

Peter said...

@Deleting

I agree. Criminal and violent immigrants should be told to leave the country. But it is not so easy.

Right now there is an ongoing trial with the Lebanese gang leader of one of the worst immigrant gangs. He came to Denmark, started comitting crime (extortion, threats, violence and drug trade) and got 8 children very quickly. He is not a Danish citizen but a Lebanese, but because he has 8 children in Denmark it is considered a possible breach of human rights to tell him to leave Denmark. So it might not happen. Personally I think that it would be good for the children to never see that father... And there are a lot of other cases like that.

Just today (!) another rapist was arrested in Denmark. He is a 19 year old Moroccan asylum seeker.
The rape was one of the most brutal rapes in a very long time. Remember that Denmark is a small country so we hear about pretty much every single case of assault rape.
In this case the rapist knocked a 22 year old au pair girl from Switzerland unconscious outside The Church of the Holy Ghost in Copenhagen. He threw her over the wall to the cemetery and tried to rape her which partially failed. I don't know what other kinds of violence he did to the poor girl, but when she was found crawling around she was close to dying. She had serious skull fractures and stayed in the hospital for a long time. But today the police finally found the rapist.

The Moroccan pleads not guilty although sperm with his DNA was found at the cemetery. So he is a liar too.

I am very frustrated with this situation. There has always been some crime, but especially violent crimes and rape have skyrocketed with the growing numbers of immigrants from muslim countries. There are also immigrants from China and Vietnam in Denmark but their crime rates are even lower than the crime rates of native Danes. The very high crime rates are exclusively found with immigrants from muslim countries (and their descendants born in Denmark - the second generation).

TPaul said...

1MM says:
"I wonder when the Christians would apply Jesus commandment to LOVE your enemy. You just can't be a good Christian?"
Do ALL Christians feel this way? Have you never met or heard of Christians who follow Christ's command of love? Inspite of persecution of Christians in Islamic lands, there are hundreds of charities operating in these war ravaged Islamic countries.
BTW, how does this "red herring" you just threw in to derail the topic, apply to the video "Name the poison"? It is not apparent to you that this "Love thy enemy" element of Christianity led to the creation of a secular society of tolerance for all, in the west, whereas in Islamic countries non-muslims are treated as second-class and even persecuted, as per Allah's command in the koran to "fight the unbelievers until they become muslim or are humiliated" [9:29]?
Consequently,the solution is not to bomb a building that will eventually, in time, become a relic like other ancient pagan temples to lost gods, but to explode the myth of Islam within Muslim minds so that they are convinced to think about what they now blindly take as 'gospel' (pun intended) truth.

Peter said...

Love your enemy, yes.
But DON'T love the deeds of those who physically and deliberately harm innocent people. Instead try to make it stop.

I wrote an earlier comment saying that the problem with assault rape was not just in Norway, but also in my native country Denmark.

Last night there was another attempt at an assault rape. http://www.b.dk/nationalt/fire-maend-overfalder-kvinde-i-nivaa
The victim this time was a 23 year old Danish girl. Once again the rapists are described as "4 foreign looking men aged 20-25". In another newspaper they were described as "4 immigrants aged 20-35".

Now, I'm not saying that these sickos are necessary muslim. However I am saying that they are immigrants from a muslim culture and that they brought the poison of that culture with them. Before immigration from muslim countries, in Scandinavia it would be unheard of that 4 men attacked and raped a girl. Today it is not. There has always been rape, but not of this kind and of this magnitude. This is a sickness that has been recently introduced.

TPaul said...

1MM,
I shudder to even think the mayhem this planet would be plunged into by angered Muslims the world over if Chritians took Robert Morey`s lunacy seriously. It will truly be chaos of epoc proportions.

Remember when Rushdie wrote a book, when the Jayllands Posten published cartoons,or when Van Gough made a movie, how did Muslims react worldwide.

Now imagine the Kaaba blown to smitherenes... How do you think Muslims would take it, when they have no where to turn to in pray.

Apply this to foresight and even you will not deny how Muslims would behave. All distinction between radical and moderate muslims, would be eradicated.

Muslims would rain down the wrath of Allah on the earth, because obviously Allah will do nothing to stop the destruction...

To hell with Robert Morey`s `master plan` to win the war against radical Islam. He obviously did`nt think things over.

Joe Bradley said...

It's peculiar that Muslims, lacking the capacity to understand that Jesus was God incarnate, pray to a rock and think that's OK.

That's just weird.

Deleting said...

I agree with you Tpaul, but let me just through this out here: The middle east is unstable and the troll calling himself the president of Iran is trying to nuke Saudi Arabia.
What happens if it hits the kaaba? are muslims going to go on a homicidal rampage and blame the christians even though it was a muslim who did it?

1MoreMuslim said...

To Joe Bradley:
you are lacking the capacity to understand that Apollonius is God incarnate.

Joe Bradley said...

"1MoreMuslim said...

To Joe Bradley:
you are lacking the capacity to understand that Apollonius is God incarnate."


1MM,

You must be a VERY confused individual, torn between your various allegiances.

You seem to worship both Muhammad and Apollonius. Through your statement you are a Muslim who denies Allah and has replaced him with Apollonius. Where, in the Qur'an, does it state that Apollonius is Allah???

Since you assert that I lack "the capacity to understand that Apollonius is God incarnate.", then I presume you are prepared to prove, from your Qur'an, that he is. Are you a worshiper of Apollonius and are merely masquerading as a Muslim?

When you pray, is it toward Tyana or Mecca?