Sunday, February 21, 2010

Zakir Naik on Water Evaporation in the Qur'an

Anyone ever noticed that when Zakir Naik answers a question, (1) he rarely answers the question, (2) he usually displays his awesome memory, without actually answering the question, and (3) Muslims love his answer and cheer him, despite the fact that he hasn't answered the questions? Whenever I hear people cheering for Naik, it's as if they're cheering for ignorance and deception! Anyway, here's one for the collection.

7:57--And He it is Who sends forth the winds bearing good news before His mercy, until, when they bring up a laden cloud, We drive it to a dead land, then We send down water on it, then bring forth with it of fruits of all kinds; thus shall We bring forth the dead that you may be mindful.

13:17--He sends down water from the cloud, then watercourses flow (with water) according to their measure, and the torrent bears along the swelling foam, and from what they melt in the fire for the sake of making ornaments or apparatus arises a scum like it; thus does Allah compare truth and falsehood; then as for the scum, it passes away as a worthless thing; and as for that which profits the people, it tarries in the earth; thus does Allah set forth parables.

15:22--And We send the winds fertilizing, then send down water from the cloud so We give it to you to drink of, nor is it you who store it up.

23:18--And We send down water from the cloud according to a measure, then We cause it to settle in the earth, and most surely We are able to carry it away.

24:43--Do you not see that Allah drives along the clouds, then gathers them together, then piles them up, so that you see the rain coming forth from their midst? And He sends down of the clouds that are (like) mountains wherein is hail, afflicting therewith whom He pleases and turning it away from whom He pleases; the flash of His lightning almost takes away the sight.

25:48-49--And He it is Who sends the winds as good news before His mercy; and We send down pure water from the cloud, That We may give life thereby to a dead land and give it for drink, out of what We have created, to cattle and many people.

30:24--And one of His signs is that He shows you the lightning for fear and for hope, and sends down water from the clouds then gives life therewith to the earth after its death; most surely there are signs in this for a people who understand

30:48--Allah is he Who sends forth the winds so they raise a cloud, then He spreads it forth in the sky as He pleases, and He breaks it up so that you see the rain coming forth from inside it; then when He causes it to fall upon whom He pleases of His servants, lo! they are joyful.

35:9--And Allah is He Who sends the winds so they raise a cloud, then We drive it on to a dead country, and therewith We give life to the earth after its death; even so is the quickening.

36:34--And We make therein gardens of palms and grapevines and We make springs to flow forth in it.

39:21--Do you not see that Allah sends down water from the cloud, then makes it go along in the earth in springs, then brings forth therewith herbage of various colors, then it withers so that you see it becoming yellow, then He makes it a thing crushed and broken into pieces? Most surely there is a reminder in this for the men of understanding.

45:5--And (in) the variation of the night and the day, and (in) what Allah sends down of sustenance from the cloud, then gives life thereby to the earth after its death, and (in) the changing of the winds, there are signs for a people who understand.

50:9--And We send down from the cloud water abounding in good, then We cause to grow thereby gardens and the grain that is reaped.

56:68-70--Have you considered the water which you drink? Is it you that send it down from the clouds, or are We the senders? If We pleased, We would have made it salty; why do you not then give thanks?

67:30--Say: Have you considered if your water should go down, who is it then that will bring you flowing water?

There you have it. Zakir Naik is asked where the Qur'an discusses water evaporation. He quotes a bunch of verses which say, in effect, "Rain comes from clouds" (which every civilization in history has known), he doesn't actually answer the question at all, and Muslims stand in awe at the non-existent miraculous scientific insights of the Qur'an! If I were a Muslim, I would be embarrassed by such deception. But it just doesn't seem to bother Muslims. As long as Dr. Naik is winning converts with his deception, Muslims will cheer him.

Of course, I could do this with the Bible (using passages such as the following, which are actually far more impressive than the passages quoted by Naik), but I'm not that desperate.

Job 36:26-28--Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him; the number of His years is unsearchable. For He draws up the drops of water, they distill rain from the mist, which the clouds pour down, they drip upon man abundantly.

Amos 5:8--He who made the Pleiades and Orion and changes deep darkness into morning, Who also darkens day into night, Who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the surface of the earth, the LORD is His name.


Adam said...


"When Will Dr. Zakir Naik MBBS of IRF Mumbai, India Debate Bro Sam Shamoun"

We all know after 9/11 many like Zakir and PARTNERS made multi million fortune out of Islamic PR, Advertising, Propaganda, Media etc. Hope many of Zakir fans across the world persuade him to debate Student of Comparative religion,Sociologist,Anthropologist,Christian Apologist.

We are waiting to see Zakir fans comments.


trencherbone said...

"Islam had to chose between Reason and the Koran in the 12th century, when Abu Hamid al-Ghazzali, argued in 'The Incoherence of the Philosophers' against the very idea of laws of nature, on the ground that any such laws would put Allah's hands in chains.

According to al-Ghazzali, a piece of cotton placed in a flame does not darken and smoulder because of the heat, but because Allah wants it to darken and smoulder. After al-Ghazzali, the light of reason went out in Dar al-Islam, and Dar al-Harb slowly gained the advantage in all aspects of civilisation, especially science"

minoria said...

Hello Adam:

You are right,ZAKIR NAIK is bluffing.And this video shows he was saying chapter X,verse X randomnly.He knew it.It's sad but true.That's how it is in this world.

If you and I had been born into a Muslim family and country there's a 75% chance we would be like the usual Zakir Naik,Ahmed Deedat admirers.And on top of that we would be blaming Israel and the Jews for all the world's problems.And believing in a great Jewish conspiracy,with the Jew plotting behind the scenes.

I think David,Mary Jo,Mike Licona,James White,William Craig,Richard Carrier,Dan Barker,Robert Price,John Crossan would also,a 75% probability,if they had been raised Muslim,would have turned out just like those we criticize.

Adam said...

Bro Minoria,

I am a Mumbaiker ( from Mumbai or Bombay City)

I know from where zakir comes from as well as his struggling days prior 9/11. The reason for his great success were his debates. He often chooses people who are scholars but not apologist or people with good orator or debating skills, examples Catholic Priests, Hindu Pandits.

He uses Arya Samaj (monotheistic Hindu Sect) literature against Lay Hindus.

Protestants arguments against Catholics.

Jehovah Witness literature against Christians.

Zakir is controversial among other Sunni muslims as well as Shia muslims for preaching his Wahhabi islam.

Zakir is controversial as well as powerful and wealthy. As he has good support of politicians (Muslims are major vote banks in India) Good funding from wealthy and influential muslims from across the world especially Indian and Pakistani muslims.

Zakir is not the only one in this business, he has many partners. Trust me if these partners were not islamic preacher they all would had been poppers.

Zakir is lucky enough compared to Osama of ans As he has never faced experience Debaters and Christian Apologists.

Another reason from zakir instant success is the ignorance of muslims. In India majority of muslim are poorly educated. Hence if a Mullah is an medical Doctor, English speaking in western out fit preaches Islam majority has to follow.

Any ways we all are waiting for Zakir naik V/s Br. Sam Shamoun debate.

hugh watt said...

What's so sad about it is Muslims have to defend such nonsense, it gives them a sense of pride, i see this a lot when trying to reason with them. They deny something i know their sources say and when shown they say something like 'the Arabic says something else', or 'the Imam can explain that'. But isn't it just as crazy as Atheism/Evolution/Mormonism etc!
Still, i guess most people would rather take comfort in a lie than face the discomfort of having to admit they've been deceived.

Fernando said...

As I saide before: the onlie think I admire in Zakir Naike is his dressing taste... I wonder iff he does not wante to doo a careear in Haut Couture... perhapes in mouth's burkas for lyiers and demagogues and wind-pipes like him...

minoria said...

Hello Adam:

I know somebody who was living in Bombay for 15 years,a North American.She liked it.Quite a number were born in Bombay:RUDYARD KIPLING(who won the NOBEL PRIZE,author of Jungle Book,Kim,The man whowould be King,Captain Courageous).He even spoke Hindi,a rare accomplishment.Then we have SALMAN RUSHDIE,also FREIDA PINTO,of Slumdog Millionaire.

I believe ALI SINA of proposed to debate ZAKIR NAIK via internet.Zakir Naik refused.he wanted a live debate.Ali Sina refused,he would have been a dead man.It's obvious Zakir Naik was unsure of himself.If,as he says,Islam can be proved,then an internet debate is IDEAL.It gives each side all the time to write your best arguments,verify,reverify,etc.You are right,he is bluffing.

TheRationalizer said...

Naik only had to quote a single sura + verse number and then read out the text. It is entirely because he poured in all of these lies that I decided to make the video.

hugh watt said...

He seemed more interested in being applauded for his memory of the Quran than anything else. Hey, he got the applause. Well, a few any way.

Khairul Afifi said...

Dr. Zakir Naik have debate a lot of the preacher. His talk have given knowledge to those who is are confuse.

David Wood said...

LOL! Zakir Naik is a coward who refuses to face experienced Christian debaters. We've been challenging him for years, but he always backs down. He only debates people who have no experience.