Wednesday, January 13, 2010

Not in the Name of Islam? (Majed Moughni and other Muslims Rally against Terrorism)

On January 8th, 2010, Muslims and their non-Muslim friends gathered in Detroit, Michigan, to protest terrorism in the name of Islam. Majed Moughni, the event's organizer, predicted that thousands of Muslims would join together and condemn violence committed by Muslim terrorists. Unfortunately, Muslims aren't quite that disturbed by terrorism.

Perhaps the Muslims who refused to condemn terrorism had some of the following Islamic passages in mind:

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.

Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.

Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.

Sahih al-Bukhari 6924—Allah’s Messenger said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illahllah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.”

Sahih Muslim 30—It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right, and his affairs rest with Allah.

Sahih al-Bukhari 2785—Narrated Abu Hurairah: A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, “Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2787—Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Case into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2796—Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, . . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2810—Narrated Abu Musa: A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them is in Allah’s Cause?” The Prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e., Allah’s religion of Islamic Monotheism) be superior, is in Allah’s Cause.”

Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2794—It was narrated that Amr bin Abasah said: “I came to the Prophet and said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is best?’ He said: ‘(That of a man) whose blood is shed and his horse is wounded.’”

24 comments: said...

Are half of the protestors even Muslims?. There is a war within Islam itself. People need to take heed and follow the true Islam that is being taught by Osama Bin Laden not CAIR lol

OLJingoist said...

Both known for terrorist ties.
50 muslims and given the choice would choose sharia/islam over democracy.

Radical Moderate said...

First the good; at least some did show up. I mean it has to start somewhere.

Now the bad, I don't think it will grow, instead it will die on the vine. Peaceful Muslims are roting fruit.

Fernando said...

Hi Shalim... glad to see you arounde here... may God bless you and your family...

Sunil said...

What is the stand of the Islamic debators (who participate in debates with David Wood, James White, Nabeel etc)? Do they belong to the "not in the name of Islam" camp? If so, how about debates with them on the topic of whether the violent islamic extremists represent true Islam or not (based on authentic/authoritative Islamic theology/history)? Whether Islam allows private non-governmental groups to takeup arms and indulge in violence, armed jihad etc (which is unlawful in all modern democracies) etc.

Fernando said...

Was our beloved friend Jon there? I cannot imaginne anythingue less...

Tom ta tum Tom said...

David, your post raises an idea for an ad campaign; "Friends don't let friends stay muslim" or something like that. I mean, for "non-muslim friends" (as mentioned in the post) to allow muslims to go unchallenged in their beliefs - that led them into the nightmare of islam -indicates either
a) ignorance of the real meaning of islam or
b) unwillingness to pursue the struggle of leading their "friend" out of islam or
c) the "friend" of the muslim is no real friend at all....

How could I allow someone that I really love continue in islam?

"Friends don't let friends drive muslim..."

"Friends don't let friends think muslim..."

"Friends don't let friends {your selected behavior here} muslim"

(sigh) What this says to me is that I need to become acquainted with one or more muslims and fast and pray for them and love them enough that they can be adopted into the family of God through Jesus Christ.

hmmmmm, loving a muslim person. Now THAT's a challenge...

Anonymous said...

just an interesting video 4 all of us 2 watch:

Anonymous said...

Some more timelessly imperialist and genocidal Ahadith...

“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Know that Paradise is under the shade of swords.’”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 51 Number 73

“Narrated Anas ibn Malik: Jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2526

“Narrated Abu Huraira: The Verse:–”You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.”–Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80

“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Were it not for fear it would be difficult for my followers, I would not have remained behind any army units. But I don’t have riding camels and have no other means of conveyance. No doubt I wish I could fight in Allah’s Cause and be martyred and come to life to be martyred again.’”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 216

“It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action…Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them…If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”–Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4294

“Narrated Jubair bin Haiya: ‘Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans…[al-Mughira said to the representative of Khosrau] Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya; and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:– “Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master.”–Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 53 Number 386

“The Prophet said, ‘Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah’s Cause with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust. If he is appointed in the front line, he is perfectly satisfied with his post, and if in the rear, he accepts it.’”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 137

“Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord: ‘Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise.’ Umar asked the Prophet, ‘Is it true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and the Pagan’s will go to the Hell Fire?’ The Prophet said, ‘Yes.’”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4 Book 51 Number 72

The Berean Search said...

I hope someone somewhere is going to put some financial support behind Moughni. It doesn't seem to me that the Islamic sources support his condemnation of terrorism against 'infidels' but just like was mentioned above it has to start somewhere. I would much rather have Muslims ignoring their sources and being peaceful. I would like to see Moughni keep organizing and even lecturing. An outspoken voice within the Muslims community here in American can at least do some bit of good against radicalization of Muslims here.

minoria said...

Just saw the video and it was smaller than I thought it would be,I thought about 200 people would show up but it seems only 30 were there,and like 5 or more were non-Muslim.It seems the organizer didn't get help from the mosques,otherwise more would have shown up.

Unknown said...

coptic justice:
( a clip about the recent terrorist against coptics in Egypt)

Unknown said...

In the last quarter of the twentieth century and the first decade of the twenty first there were numerous frequent attacks on Coptic Churches, Monasteries, villages, homes and shops that reflect the siege under which are living in their homeland, of which we list the following record of Egyptian and Islamic shame

6 November 1972

Muslim mob attack and burn a prayer meeting by Egyptian Christian Copts at the Holy Scripture College, an attack which preceded the infamous Khanka attacks on the Copts

June 1981

Another attack by criminal Muslim mob results in Eighty One murdered Christian Copts, in cold blood, with the Interior Minister Abu Pasha blaming his predecessor Interior Minister Ennabawy Ismael's lack of adequate security measures

17 November 1981

Muslim terrorists kidnap the Christian Coptic priest the Reverend Maximose Guirguis and with the threat of a knife to his throat demanded he denounces his Christianity and publicly pronounce the Islamic faith declarations (Shehadas), slitting his throat when he refused their demands and leaving him bleeding to death

20 September 1991

Muslim mob attacks Copts in Embaba, an outer suburb of Cairo

9 March 1992

Muslim mob attacks Copts in Manshiet Nasser, Dyroot, Upper Egypt

4 May 1992

Another massacre by Muslims murdering 13 Christian Copts in the villages of Manshia and Weesa in Dyroot, Upper Egypt

12 May 1992

A bloodshed in Manfaloot, Upper Egypt, on the Coptic Easter day with 6 Copts murdered and 50 injured, followed by some 200 arrests

15 & 16 October 1992

Muslim mob attacks with burning and looting of shops and 42 houses owned by Christian Copts, with 3 Copts injured and the destruction of an estimated 5 Million pounds of property, live stock, merchandise and work places Kafr Demian in Sharqueyya in the Nile Delta

2 December 1992

Muslim mob attacks Copts in the city of Assiut, Upper Egypt

December 1992

Muslim mob attacks Copts in the Village of Meer, Al Quosseya, Upper Egypt, murdering four Copts and slitting the throat of a Coptic jeweller for refusing to pay protection money

13 March 1997

Muslim mob attacks a Tourist Train with Spanish Tourists, killing 13 Christians and injuring 6, in the Village of Nakhla near Nagge Hammadi

The terrorists increased the frequency of their attacks and widened it to include whom the viewed as collaborators with the security force, launching an attack on the eve of the Adha Eid using automatic weapons killing Copts as well as Muslims

19 November 2000

Muslim mob attempt to force a Copt to pronounce the Islamic faith declarations (Shehadas) then beat him to death when he refuses their demand

6 January 2010

Muslim mob machine gun attack on Coptic Christians celebrating the Egyptian birth of Christ, with 7 dead and scores injured, and lots of lives ruined

* Extract from an article by Egyptian writer Nana Ameen published in “Modern Discussion”

mkvine said...

LOL, Dr. Wood, you looked sort of confused...maybe you were expecting more Muslims to show up? Actually, I was surprised the Revolution Muslim gang didn't show up to protest AGAINST the protesters.

aussie christian said...

I noted that the the pro islam protests were very loud yet the anti terrorist protest was completely silent apart from a few people discussing going for a hot coffee.

If I was forced to make an observation I would have to conclude that the anti terrorist protest was nothing more than a smoke screen to try and fool us dumb kafur that islam is peaceful.

So much for "not in the name of islam". I dont recall seeing many burqa's or the cloth the men wear. I would hazzard a guess that none of the people who attended are practising muslims.

Well, now that islam in America has drawn the line, chosen sides, the US should now round up all muslims and pack them off to saudia arabia, iran, syria, lybia. problem solved. But you can let the 30 or so Muslims who attended the protest stay. Cant get much fairer than that, keep the moderates, get rid of the radical, militant muslims.

Peace and Love.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Thanks for putting that together, well done.

minoria said...

What Shafsha has added is saddening,that is why I am have to keep telling other non-Muslims about the things of Islam.Tonight I was telling a woman about the Muslim Brotherhood,the FIS of Algeria that killed 100,000.How they want to impose Islamic law,about Bukhari,the hadiths,the terror campaign by the Muslim Brotherhood.It's a start.And again,we must let all the NON-MUSLIMS easily emigrate to the West.They are TRUE REFUGEES.


In another article it was said that DETROIT,where the protest was held against the Muslim terrorists,ONLY 12 Detroit Muslims participated.I think it was more,I saw like 30,but they must have been non-Muslims.And do you know HOW MANY MUSLIMS are in DETROIT?

Answer:400,000 Muslims.

Fernando said...

Hi Bosch Fawstin... glad to see you arounde here... I'm expecting to see your oncoming book The Infidel...

The Infidel Alliance said...

Here's some more events that are "not in the name of Islam":

Islam "NOT" against:
- the Catholics in the Philippines (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Christians in Indonesia (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- Australian tourists in Bali (blown up…twice)
- the Buddhists in Thailand (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Hindus & Sikhs in India (hundreds of years battling the Islamic Jihad)
- the Jews in Mumbai (slaughtered)
- the Zoroastrians & Baha’i in Iran (virtually exterminated)
- Islamic converts to Christianity in Afghanistan (death fatwa)
- ancient Buddhist statues in Bamiyan, Afghanistan (blown up)
- the Chaldean Christians in Iraq (routine persecution, slaughter & church burnings)
- the Jews in Israel (routine attacks against civilians, threat of 2nd genocide)
- the Jews in Yemen (nearly exterminated)
- S. Korean & German tourists in Yemen (blown up)
- the Coptic Christians in Egypt (routine persecution, slaughter & church attacks)
- the Christians & animists in Sudan (genocide)
- the Christians in Kenya (constant Jihadist threat from Obama’s homies)
- the Christians in Nigeria (routine Jihadist attacks)
- U.S. embassies in Tanzania & Kenya (blown up)
- the athiests in Europe (the prime target)
- the native French in Paris (torched car terrorism)
- Jews in Paris (read the grisly story of Ilan Halimi, a Jewish shop clerk who was kidnapped, tortured and killed in 2006)
- the native Swedes in Malmo (Islamic rape brigades)
- the native Dutch in Amsterdam (routinely terrorized)
- Dutch politicians (Geert Wilders & Ayyan Hirsi Ali – death fatwa)
- Dutch cinematographers (Theo vanGogh savagely murdered by an Islamist in broad daylight)
- Dutch cartoonists (Kurt Westergaard – death fatwa)
- Dutch newspaper editors (Flemming Rose, Jyllands-Posten’s culture editor – death fatwa)
- Train commuters in Spain (blown up)
- Tube commuters in London (blown up)
- Airports in Scotland (blown up)
- Jews in Argentina (blown up)
- Jews in Caracas (blown up)
- Twin Tower office workers in N.Y. (blown up – twice)
- Defense workers in the Pentagon (blown up – airliner jihad)
- Army/Navy military recruiters in Little Rock (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Soldiers in F.t Hood Texas (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Pedestrians at the U. of N. Carolina (run down with an SUV by Islamist)
- Journalists like Daniel Pearl (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Nick Berg, Kim Sung-il, Piotr Stanczyk, Jack Hensley, Eugene Armstrong, Paul Johnson (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Jewish centers in Seattle (slaughtered by Islamist Jihadist)
- Jewish centers in Toronto (slaughtered by Islamist Jihadist)
-Delta Airline passenger (Islamic underwear jihadist)
And on, and on, and on……….

The reality is that we are facing Islam against everyone, everything, everywhere that is not Islamic.

It is Dar al-Islam against Dar al-Harb. Them against us, not us against them.

THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – mandated by Allah & Muhammed in the Koran & Ahadith: Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'"

Let’s face the facts and call it what it is. It is not a ‘War on Terror’ against a few ragtag misunderstanders of Islam.

It is nothing less than: THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR.

THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – Muhammed’s bloody legacy.

~ The Infidel Alliance

Fernando said...

Hi The Infidel Alliance... thanks for that list off barbarous events made by muslims... whate others silence lets us cry out loud... kep posting your comments arounde here...

Fernando said...

Jon? Where are you? Still having problemes withe lobsters and Galileu Galilei?

aussie christian said...

OI jon

This is happening in your country mate, why do you remain silent on this? is it because there is nothing you can bag Israel or Jews over? are you a dhimmi? are you a closet muslim? are you silent until you can work out who will win then jump on the band wagon and yell "look I lead the fight" "I knew X side would win all along"?

Maybe the Jews should have set up a stand next to them, then jon could have had something to whinge about.

Peace and Love.

aussie christian said...

WOW Jon still is silent as death!!

This is begining to yell to me that Jon is nothing but an anti-semite, who intends to only comment on posts that he can manage to wrangle some form of blame on Israel.

Note to Jon, if you keep trying to bash God's holy people AKA Israel, you are gonna pay big time, when God judges all of mankind.

Peace and Love.

Lucy said...

That video is way out of context: we don't know when it was filmed, could've been before things really got going, anyways it looks to me like a fair lot of people, just spread out, and how many of these are Muslim we have no real idea, as Islam is just like any other religion in that not everyone who practices it is orthodox or even semi traditional, and anyone can be Muslim, so learn from this, and see that the Detroit Islamic protest against terrorism can be seen as a great success.