i am really hurt for the muslim people who eyes r closed cause of the horrific teachings of quran. this video represently the muslim and wut they r. this video makes me sad and cry at the same time.
i sure wud like an answer from osama abdulla and other muslims on this video. lets hear wut false accusation statements they come up with. i saw the video again and it made me sick. but killing is fine according to islam and its people. hey everybody lets all just forget wut happened in the video because truly its not al qaeda's fault. they were just following mohammad and his teaching. as far as how osama abdulla will answer it" those people wearing masks cud be christians and just trying to fool everybody. how dare they put Islam to shame." as a pakistani christian this is 1 of many muslims killing muslims and non muslims videos ive seen. born and raised in Saudi arabia wasnt easy for me and my family. im glad im free in Canada.
This is sick beyond description. My heart beats faster as I can't imagine how corrupt human can become. I missed this one but finally managed to find it via http://bostonlegalsass.blogspot.com/2009/09/if-waterboarding-is-cruel-what-do-you.html for those who wish to watch.
its very sad to say that a religion causes violence and those who r intact with it deny it. Lord God open there eyes cause they do not c wut they r doing and following. forgive them and lead them the right path towards u Jesus. As far as osama abdulla goes. i have a questions for him. Wut if ur wrong about having virgin women in heaven osama. and u end up in hell? most likely. second question is that wud u regret being a muslim while ur in hell? my other concern was that heaven is supose to be peaceful and painfree and peace and love and joy happiness according to the bible. The heaven doesnt seem like that in the quran. Wut if the the virgin woman u wanted to bang was already banged up by ur fellow muslim brother. Wud u go pick a fight with him or wud u share the women? how can something like sex be in heaven? i wud have thought only horny junky people wud think of something like this but im wrong.
I have not seen the video but I can assure you of one thing,the Muslim world is in crisis.Western Muslims unfortunately have few role models.For example,we have AL-JAZEERA tv news channel,in ENGLISH and ARABIC.
Now I know that many journalists from the BBC went over to Al-Jazeera English.However,what kind of an EXAMPLE are they giving?
They obviously know Al-Jazeera Arabic has a weekly program held by QARADAWI,who supports suicide bombers who kill innocent people.
I ask you:"Would they still work for it if their brother,mother or father had gone to do tourism in Israel and by bad luck got killed when somebody blew himself up in a restaurant?And knowing AL-Jazeera supports a LEADER of radical Islam?"
WHAT IF...
What if instead Al-Jazeera had a weekly show with a NEO-NAZI or a KKK LEADER as host?Would the BBC repoters have gone to work for them?
Why don't WESTERN MUSLIMS boycott and protest Al-Jazeera?I know they would if Al-Jazeera had a weekly program held by a SUPPORTER of Israel.
WHY?
They would say the supporter of Israel supports a government that kills innocent Muslims.Yet they are indifferent to an opponet of Israel,Qaradawi,who supports killing innocent Israelis.I have yet to see a Muslim intellectual,like Tariq Ramadan,condemn Al-Jazeera on moral grounds.
say furnando. there probably a muslim or 2 working for youtube and took the video out because its not for any of us to watch. is it because thats how islam works? When Jesus returns he will then only turn this radical islamic upside down. bible prophecy r being fullfilled.
i have a question for u? nabeel when u were a muslim. wut did u think of the scriptures in the quran for instance aisha and muhammad, killing of the non muslims jews and chrsitians for a fact. and the satanic verses and muhammad proclaiming to be a prophet? were u brainwashed like the rest of the redical muslims around the world or were u a westerner muslim who didnt believe in practice them for example suiciding bombing and heavenly virgins? also while u were reading the quran did u find some of the scriptures to be very confusing and heavy?
Paul said: "I've downloaded it from youtube. I think I could upload it on an other sites."
No, don't do that. They didn't take it down because it's against Islam. It turns out they have a policy against posting videos in which people are being killed.
wud u plz ask nabeel to answer my questions because im curious? i have never asked an x muslim these questions before and i wud like to knw wut his thoughts r. If he doesnt mind.
Basically these devils (that is simply what they are) start of the execution by shooting above the victims to freak them out. Then it appears that they shoot them in places of the body that do not cause death but of course severe pain simply to increase their suffering. Finally they shoot them dead, all they while the chant the ussual: Allah is Great.
Utterly disgusting. I think rather than banning the video it should be viewed even in television for people to see what evil forces we are up against. Well, maybe that is an incorrect suggestion, considering their families.
well i think if we take a closer look at the video there seems to be first little bit of video missing. my most accurate guess wud be that they first must have lined em up against the wall then shot em in the back. If u take a closer look the wall there seems to be a big blood stain on the wall. then they all started to shoot just for fun. it makes me mad wut these radicals r doing. i hope the army finds them and does the same to these quranic filthy, worse then the worst people on the planet. shame on them and shame on the islam and shame on the muslim people who follow the corrupted satanic book. Jesus is God
david: if it is not copyrighted it can be downloaded for personal use. thus, if paul can host it somewhere else it is not unethical or illegal to repost it here.
paul: good catch brother. you could host it at muhammadtube.com, or mahomettube.com, and then, if he chooses, david could embed it here. it needs to be seen.
peace, and the blessings of G_d our Savior, to all who bow the knee to Jesus Christ, our Lord, our G_d, our Savior, and our King.
I'm posting a link to a series of articles by the New York Times reporter that was kidnapped by the Taliban in afgainstan. He documents how these video's are watched regulery by the mighty mujahadeen. Almost like islamic Porn.
Its a very telling series of articles, very riviting.
David said: "No, don't do that. They didn't take it down because it's against Islam. It turns out they have a policy against posting videos in which people are being killed."
Yes that is their policy, however, youtube is routinely filled with videos of western servicemen being blown up by IED´s, all to the happy tune of Quran chanting in the background. Many of the Muslims on youtube actively share and spread such videos.
ubiquitousserendipity said: "if it is not copyrighted it can be downloaded for personal use. thus, if paul can host it somewhere else it is not unethical or illegal to repost it here."
Absolutely. I thought Paul meant that he was going to post it on other YouTube pages, and I don't want to annoy YouTube, as I think they're performing a valuable service.
Yes, Paul, feel free to repost the video. I'll re-embed it here.
There is no basis for saying that THAT PROPHET mentioned in DUET is Jesus. The proof you offered is that he did miracles and that he was a Israeli. There are other Israeli prophets who did miracles, even bigger one that the that of Jesus. One example is prophet Elisha. He gave life to a whole heap of bones.He cured leprosy and inflicted it too. There were other miracles too which were done by him. More over OT speaks that there were no prophet like Moses in Israel ever since like that of Moses.
The Deut says, God will raise a prophet from the brethren of Israelites. It did not say that the prophet will be from among themselves. Jews did not know who was the prophet till he came. They were looking for him. They did not find him in Jesus. John too did not tell him that THAT PROPHET is Jesus/Christ.
DOES THRE ANY STAEMENT BY PROPHET JESUS PBUH SAID AFTER ME THERE WILL BE NO COMING OF PROPHET MENTIONED IN BIBLE?
WHY HE HAS GIVEN TEST TO IDENTIFY PROPHET BY ITS FRUITS?
THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE COMING OF TRUE & FALSE PROPHETS?
IF THRE WILL BE NO COMING OF PROPHET AFTER JESUS PBUH HE WOULD HAVE SAID ANYONE CLAIMS TO BE PROPHET AFTER ME IS FALSE PROPHET BECAUSE I M THE LAST PROPHET?
jesus said that he was the way, the truth and the life.
john 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
false teachings from false prophets that came after him belong in the garbage bin. u see theres only one truth and jesus says hes the truth. so muhammad cannot be the truth as well.
Krishnaraj said: «The proof you offered is that he did miracles and that he was a Israeli»...
Krishnaraj, Krishnaraj... how hard is to you to grasp thate the key point in the comparaison between Moses and Jesus (the prophet like Moses) is the talking "face to face" withe God (made by Moses and Jesus) as I explained to you previously?
bie the way, according to Osama you're nott a muslim since you do nott habe a muslim name...
What I think might be helpful to us Krishnaraj, is that when you want to write something that is completely off topic from a thread, is giving us all a warning before doing so. Otherwise it might be perceived (and I'm not saying this was your intent!) as disrespectful to the poster of this thread, and to the serious nature of the topic that is being discussed.
david wood posts a video demonstrating the barbarous murder of mohammendans by co-religionists (other mohammedans) because they want to help build their country and community.
other posters say: i am hurt for the muslim people...; And if God chooses the we might honor Him with our dies. Then I can only say Glory to Yahweh and may His Will be done in out lifes.; why are they doing this?; i sure would like an answer from... and other muslims...; that was disgusting; This is sick beyond description...; I guess Abdallah and other muslims gabe their answer to this video by forcing itt down from YouTube... its very sad to say that a religion causes violence and those who r intact with it deny it. Lord God open there eyes cause they do not c wut they r doing and following.
krishnaraj says: hey look!!! elvis!!!
so krishnaraj,,, what do you think, feel, about the short video clip, which islamist have teamed up to have taken off of youtube? and do you think it is moral/ethical, reasonable, to work towards censorship in a public venue?
I can't watch the video because my mom would be really mad if I watched something like this. But all I have to say is that this is really sad =( These Muslims really need Jesus in their lives.
So this is the relegion of peace and tolerence that Barak HUSEUN Obama wants the west to reach out to and offer and olive branch. This is the true fruit of Islam. And we see the same thing happened in Afganistan and Pakistan. There can be no peace with Islam. The Unites States may not be at war with Islam but Islam is at war with the United States. The problem is that those in the State Department and the President of the United States are too stupid to realize it. That is why I think both Afganistan and Pakistan are lost.
"i am really hurt for the muslim people who eyes r closed cause of the horrific teachings of quran. this video represently the muslim and wut they r. this video makes me sad and cry at the same time."
Yeah how wonderful is that verse in the quran telling for muslims to murder other muslims who want to become police officers. Once again despite the fact muslim scholors have continously condemned all extremist actions 99% of whom muslims are killed), christians apparently wont understand that.
You seem to have missed the point. Al Qaeda was killing these men for attempting to become police officers working for a regime that replaced Saddam's regime. Al Qaeda views these Muslims as befriending non-Muslims over Muslims. Now what, may I ask (though I already know), did Muhammad say about Muslims who join the enemy?
You say Muslim scholars have condemned Al-Qaida.OK.But have they condemned the fact that Sharia Law in its various different forms discriminates against us non-Muslims.They have not and never will,that is reality.
The question is:"Do YOU agree with them or are you 100% for the respect of the human rights of non-Muslims anywhere,whether in majority Muslim countries or not?"
Certainly you don't agree with them,with Al-Azhar and its scholars.Of that I am sure.
David you wrote AL-QUEDA VIEWS the current government as the enemy. But next it's as if your saying al-queda are true muslims. I, and i'm sure other muslims, don't agree with that. Begining with Saddam Hussien, he built statues of himself. I'm guessing from your reasearch you know what a crime that is.
Is quite obvious back then when muslims continued to get attacked(like today in the mid-east), joining the enemy was disgraceful. Lets look at a well known hadith
“O God, to You I complain of my weakness, lack of resources and humiliation before these people. You are the Most Merciful, the Lord of the weak and my Master. To whom will You consign me? To one estranged, bearing ill will, or an enemy given power over me? If You do not assign me any worth, I care not, for Your favor is abundant upon me. I seek refuge in the light of Your countenance by which all darkness is dispelled and every affair of this world and the next is set right, lest Thy anger should descend upon me or Your displeasure light upon me. I need only Your pleasure and satisfaction for only You enable me to do good and evade the evil. There is no power and no might but You.” The Lord then sent the angel of mountains, seeking the permission of the Prophet to join together the two hills and crush the city of Taif, between which it was located. Out of his great tolerance and mercy, the Messenger of God replied, “No! For, I hope that God will bring forth from their loins people who will worship God alone, associating nothing with Him.” (Sahih Muslim)
Anyways what I wrote was about Al-queda not being muslim in a response to Simon.
Let me ask a few questions before I respond to the rest of your comment. Which of the five pillars of Islam does Al Qaeda refuse to practice? Do they not recite the Shahadah? Do they refuse to pray five times per day? Do they avoid paying Zakat? Do they avoid fasting? Do they never take the Hajj?
And which of the six articles of faith do they reject?
Sorry David that was me who wrote that. I and a few others are using the same computer as Ali because we have a presentation at a mosque tomorrow.
Anyways David, I hope you realize religious fanatics exist in every faith and use religion to justify actions.
I can swear there is no God but Allah and Muhammed pbuh is his messanger. I may pray 5 times daily, I might fast during ramadan, I might give to charity and preform hajj if i can. Or i can do any, if not all, just for the sake of it. But at the same time I can go out on dates, go to party's with friends and drink, i can wear mini skirts and anything revealing or i can lose my virginity. You'll be surprised how many muslims do what i wrote. And I think killing innocent muslims can fit in quite nicely cant it? More over, may i have such hadiths, quran verses about where Muhammed pbuh/God commanded the killing of other muslims?
Read this artcle- http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016476&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE
I have to ask the question, why has not one single Muslim posted a message to this attrocity, either giving an explination as to why it is ok, or condemming the actions of these evil people.
It appears, either Muslims are so appaled by this that they refuse to say anything (or they go and post an off topic comment) or they feel no need to comment as they see this as a perfect example of Islam in action and therefore is perfectly self explinatory as to the teachings of Mohummad.
Good question. Muhammad commanded his followers to follow the path of the rightly-guided caliphs. When Muslims started refusing to pay the Zakat after Muhammad died, Abu Bakr declared war on them. Umar objected that these Muslims hadn't (1) committed adultery, (2) murdered anyone, or (3) apostatized. Yet Abu Bakr ruled that, in refusing to pay Zakat to the caliphs, the Muslims became apostates.
So the rule we find here is that if someone does something to violate the teachings of Muhammad, he may be treated as an apostate (which, as you know, requires the death penalty). Further, as you know, any Muslim who befriends non-believers is classified as a non-believer.
Given such teachings, it's not difficult to see how Al Qaeda can justify their atrocities.
If "WomenforLie666" is a reference to WomanforTruth, I think it's uncalled for. We know that what she is saying is wrong and contradicts Muhammad's teachings, but she's behaving well, and I don't see any reason for name-calling.
Ok... Doctor Wood... my mistake... ounce again I overcome the line off a true Christian... I'll refrain to do so in the future... I was boilling in small amount off water... I'll eben erase my comment and place a new one... thankes for the brotherly correction...
Doctor David Wood asked Ali (the self proclaimed deffendor off WomenforTruth101): «Let me ask a few questions before I respond to the rest of your comment. Which of the five pillars of Islam does Al Qaeda refuse to practice? Do they not recite the Shahadah? Do they refuse to pray five times per day? Do they avoid paying Zakat? Do they avoid fasting? Do they never take the Hajj? And which of the six articles of faith do they reject?»...
preciselly whate I habbe benn askin him aboutt the Talibans in another thread... He will know say they do not follow them "properly"... butt the question then is: who does deffy "prperly"? Ali? WomenforTruth101? or the major schools off islamic jurisprudence? hummm... lets waitte...
lol...christians have been killing themselves for last 2000 years form Judas to the lord's salvation army in uganda.What about two world years??? were they a party
what about two world wars? what about Lord's salvation army in uganda?? what about Judas??? Hello...i am expecting a reply.But i dont think you will reply...ur policy just hit n run like a spineless coward. VIVA LA PALESTINE VIVA LA ISLAM
Sorry I've been away from the computer lately. Paying Zakat is one of the 5 pillars that make up a muslim (again, doesn't necessarily mean they follow Islam). Zakat is for the poor which all muslims must pay. It takes greed away and ensures 2.5% goes for people who need shelter, water and food. Not paying it means you become an unbeliever. But when intentionally not paying and denying zakat means you are Murtad. Abu Kabr was not fighting muslims. Also they revolted against him by tryin to establish mini states and created their own prophets like Musailmah Kazzab, Najah (the female prophetess), Aswad Ansi and so on. They claimed they were the new prophets after Muhammed (peace be upon him) too.
There is no relation between this and extremists either.
Oh and Mr. Wood, where do any of my comments contradict islam?
khan you're complitly missing the point. What's the use of pointing to christianity ? What part of do not kill in the Bible haven't you understood ? What about the fact that most of the people whom are killing in the name of Lord Jesus Christ are mislead by their own mind or others ? I mean think about it. The Lord is saying to us that we will be persecuted, that we will be throw to wild beasts, that we will have to answer to highest of people ? And after saying that He never says: "but you fight back. And kill them all. Or anything like that." He says don't worry. The HOly spirit will help you. He tells us: "Who ever loses his life for Me, HE will have LIFE FROM the FATHER."
And so on. As for killing christians between christians: You can pray and help (and love) your enemy and at the same time kill him. So those where mislead or they weren't real christians. Maybe they weren't praying(I know this for a fact).
But this muslims that killed this were believing that they were making Allah's wish. They were singing Allah Akbar. While the christians killing christians weren't singing christian songs.
So I demand an answer from you. Tell me if there isn't a difference.
Christians that don't know/live their faith versus muslims whom kill exactlly because of believing that they fullfill Allah's wish.
khan you're complitly missing the point. What's the use of pointing to christianity ? What part of do not kill in the Bible haven't you understood ? What about the fact that most of the people whom are killing in the name of Lord Jesus Christ are mislead by their own mind or others ? I mean think about it. The Lord is saying to us that we will be persecuted, that we will be throw to wild beasts, that we will have to answer to highest of people ? And after saying that He never says: "but you fight back. And kill them all. Or anything like that." He says don't worry. The HOly spirit will help you. He tells us: "Who ever loses his life for Me, HE will have LIFE FROM the FATHER."
And so on. As for killing christians between christians: You can pray and help (and love) your enemy and at the same time kill him. So those where mislead or they weren't real christians. Maybe they weren't praying(I know this for a fact).
But this muslims that killed this were believing that they were making Allah's wish. They were singing Allah Akbar. While the christians killing christians weren't singing christian songs.
So I demand an answer from you. Tell me if there isn't a difference.
Christians that don't know/live their faith versus muslims whom kill exactlly because of believing that they fullfill Allah's wish.
"And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him" (4:93)
Could anyone tell me how Jesus as a human can at the same time call himself GOD.I think that the thing with the trinity its absolutely absurd and it makes no sense at all can't hardly believe that there are people buying this crap!
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i am really hurt for the muslim people who eyes r closed cause of the horrific teachings of quran. this video represently the muslim and wut they r. this video makes me sad and cry at the same time.
All I can say it this:
God have mercy on us(christians all over the earth).
And if God chooses the we might honor Him with our dies. Then I can only say Glory to Yahweh and may His Will be done in out lifes.
Paul-a christian brother.
Why are they doing this?
The people getting shot had applied to become police officers.
i sure wud like an answer from osama abdulla and other muslims on this video. lets hear wut false accusation statements they come up with. i saw the video again and it made me sick. but killing is fine according to islam and its people. hey everybody lets all just forget wut happened in the video because truly its not al qaeda's fault. they were just following mohammad and his teaching. as far as how osama abdulla will answer it" those people wearing masks cud be christians and just trying to fool everybody. how dare they put Islam to shame." as a pakistani christian this is 1 of many muslims killing muslims and non muslims videos ive seen. born and raised in Saudi arabia wasnt easy for me and my family. im glad im free in Canada.
Ok. That was disgusting. But I guess the world needs to see the murdering bastards we are dealing with.
This is sick beyond description. My heart beats faster as I can't imagine how corrupt human can become. I missed this one but finally managed to find it via
http://bostonlegalsass.blogspot.com/2009/09/if-waterboarding-is-cruel-what-do-you.html for those who wish to watch.
God help this wicked world...
Dear Simon... Well... I guess Abdallah and other muslims gabe their answer to this video by forcing itt down from YouTube...
I've downloaded it from youtube.
I think I could upload it on an other sites.
Paul.
its very sad to say that a religion causes violence and those who r intact with it deny it. Lord God open there eyes cause they do not c wut they r doing and following. forgive them and lead them the right path towards u Jesus.
As far as osama abdulla goes. i have a questions for him. Wut if ur wrong about having virgin women in heaven osama. and u end up in hell? most likely. second question is that wud u regret being a muslim while ur in hell? my other concern was that heaven is supose to be peaceful and painfree and peace and love and joy happiness according to the bible. The heaven doesnt seem like that in the quran. Wut if the the virgin woman u wanted to bang was already banged up by ur fellow muslim brother. Wud u go pick a fight with him or wud u share the women? how can something like sex be in heaven? i wud have thought only horny junky people wud think of something like this but im wrong.
I have not seen the video but I can assure you of one thing,the Muslim world is in crisis.Western Muslims unfortunately have few role models.For example,we have AL-JAZEERA tv news channel,in ENGLISH and ARABIC.
Now I know that many journalists from the BBC went over to Al-Jazeera English.However,what kind of an EXAMPLE are they giving?
They obviously know Al-Jazeera Arabic has a weekly program held by QARADAWI,who supports suicide bombers who kill innocent people.
I ask you:"Would they still work for it if their brother,mother or father had gone to do tourism in Israel and by bad luck got killed when somebody blew himself up in a restaurant?And knowing AL-Jazeera supports a LEADER of radical Islam?"
WHAT IF...
What if instead Al-Jazeera had a weekly show with a NEO-NAZI or a KKK LEADER as host?Would the BBC repoters have gone to work for them?
Why don't WESTERN MUSLIMS boycott and protest Al-Jazeera?I know they would if Al-Jazeera had a weekly program held by a SUPPORTER of Israel.
WHY?
They would say the supporter of Israel supports a government that kills innocent Muslims.Yet they are indifferent to an opponet of Israel,Qaradawi,who supports killing innocent Israelis.I have yet to see a Muslim intellectual,like Tariq Ramadan,condemn Al-Jazeera on moral grounds.
say furnando. there probably a muslim or 2 working for youtube and took the video out because its not for any of us to watch. is it because thats how islam works? When Jesus returns he will then only turn this radical islamic upside down. bible prophecy r being fullfilled.
i have a question for u? nabeel when u were a muslim. wut did u think of the scriptures in the quran for instance aisha and muhammad, killing of the non muslims jews and chrsitians for a fact. and the satanic verses and muhammad proclaiming to be a prophet? were u brainwashed like the rest of the redical muslims around the world or were u a westerner muslim who didnt believe in practice them for example suiciding bombing and heavenly virgins? also while u were reading the quran did u find some of the scriptures to be very confusing and heavy?
Paul said: "I've downloaded it from youtube.
I think I could upload it on an other sites."
No, don't do that. They didn't take it down because it's against Islam. It turns out they have a policy against posting videos in which people are being killed.
david wood
wud u plz ask nabeel to answer my questions because im curious? i have never asked an x muslim these questions before and i wud like to knw wut his thoughts r. If he doesnt mind.
I just watched the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Pud4cPxx0
Basically these devils (that is simply what they are) start of the execution by shooting above the victims to freak them out. Then it appears that they shoot them in places of the body that do not cause death but of course severe pain simply to increase their suffering. Finally they shoot them dead, all they while the chant the ussual: Allah is Great.
Utterly disgusting. I think rather than banning the video it should be viewed even in television for people to see what evil forces we are up against. Well, maybe that is an incorrect suggestion, considering their families.
I pray for the families of these victims.
well i think if we take a closer look at the video there seems to be first little bit of video missing. my most accurate guess wud be that they first must have lined em up against the wall then shot em in the back. If u take a closer look the wall there seems to be a big blood stain on the wall. then they all started to shoot just for fun. it makes me mad wut these radicals r doing. i hope the army finds them and does the same to these quranic filthy, worse then the worst people on the planet. shame on them and shame on the islam and shame on the muslim people who follow the corrupted satanic book. Jesus is God
david: if it is not copyrighted it can be downloaded for personal use. thus, if paul can host it somewhere else it is not unethical or illegal to repost it here.
paul: good catch brother. you could host it at muhammadtube.com, or mahomettube.com, and then, if he chooses, david could embed it here. it needs to be seen.
peace, and the blessings of G_d our Savior, to all who bow the knee to Jesus Christ, our Lord, our G_d, our Savior, and our King.
in His love, papajoe
All
I'm posting a link to a series of articles by the New York Times reporter that was kidnapped by the Taliban in afgainstan. He documents how these video's are watched regulery by the mighty mujahadeen. Almost like islamic Porn.
Its a very telling series of articles, very riviting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/world/asia/20hostage.html
David said: "No, don't do that. They didn't take it down because it's against Islam. It turns out they have a policy against posting videos in which people are being killed."
Yes that is their policy, however, youtube is routinely filled with videos of western servicemen being blown up by IED´s, all to the happy tune of Quran chanting in the background. Many of the Muslims on youtube actively share and spread such videos.
ubiquitousserendipity said: "if it is not copyrighted it can be downloaded for personal use. thus, if paul can host it somewhere else it is not unethical or illegal to repost it here."
Absolutely. I thought Paul meant that he was going to post it on other YouTube pages, and I don't want to annoy YouTube, as I think they're performing a valuable service.
Yes, Paul, feel free to repost the video. I'll re-embed it here.
There is no basis for saying that THAT PROPHET mentioned in DUET is Jesus. The proof you offered is that he did miracles and that he was a Israeli. There are other Israeli prophets who did miracles, even bigger one that the that of Jesus. One example is prophet Elisha. He gave life to a whole heap of bones.He cured leprosy and inflicted it too. There were other miracles too which were done by him. More over OT speaks that there were no prophet like Moses in Israel ever since like that of Moses.
The Deut says, God will raise a prophet from the brethren of Israelites. It did not say that the prophet will be from among themselves. Jews did not know who was the prophet till he came. They were looking for him. They did not find him in Jesus. John too did not tell him that THAT PROPHET is Jesus/Christ.
DOES THRE ANY STAEMENT BY PROPHET JESUS PBUH SAID AFTER ME THERE WILL BE NO COMING OF PROPHET MENTIONED IN BIBLE?
WHY HE HAS GIVEN TEST TO IDENTIFY PROPHET BY ITS FRUITS?
THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE COMING OF TRUE & FALSE PROPHETS?
IF THRE WILL BE NO COMING OF PROPHET AFTER JESUS PBUH HE WOULD HAVE SAID ANYONE CLAIMS TO BE PROPHET AFTER ME IS FALSE PROPHET BECAUSE I M THE LAST PROPHET?
SO IT IS YOUR DUTY TO IDENTIFY THE LAST PROPHET?
krishnaraj,
jesus said that he was the way, the truth and the life.
john 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
false teachings from false prophets that came after him belong in the garbage bin. u see theres only one truth and jesus says hes the truth. so muhammad cannot be the truth as well.
as simple as that.
Hello David,
Here I've posted it again.
Hope you can embed it.
http://www.220.ro/388KH0OsVW/XyzY-Event
Paul.
Krishnaraj said: «The proof you offered is that he did miracles and that he was a Israeli»...
Krishnaraj, Krishnaraj... how hard is to you to grasp thate the key point in the comparaison between Moses and Jesus (the prophet like Moses) is the talking "face to face" withe God (made by Moses and Jesus) as I explained to you previously?
bie the way, according to Osama you're nott a muslim since you do nott habe a muslim name...
Krishnaraj said: «They did not find him in Jesus»... really? why then many Jews, like is expreesed in the Gospels, saide thate Jesus was the prophet?
What I think might be helpful to us Krishnaraj, is that when you want to write something that is completely off topic from a thread, is giving us all a warning before doing so. Otherwise it might be perceived (and I'm not saying this was your intent!) as disrespectful to the poster of this thread, and to the serious nature of the topic that is being discussed.
Thanks Paul.
a quick summary:
david wood posts a video demonstrating the barbarous murder of mohammendans by co-religionists (other mohammedans) because they want to help build their country and community.
other posters say: i am hurt for the muslim people...; And if God chooses the we might honor Him with our dies. Then I can only say Glory to Yahweh and may His Will be done in out lifes.; why are they doing this?; i sure would like an answer from... and other muslims...; that was disgusting; This is sick beyond description...; I guess Abdallah and other muslims gabe their answer to this video by forcing itt down from YouTube... its very sad to say that a religion causes violence and those who r intact with it deny it. Lord God open there eyes cause they do not c wut they r doing and following.
krishnaraj says: hey look!!! elvis!!!
so krishnaraj,,, what do you think, feel, about the short video clip, which islamist have teamed up to have taken off of youtube? and do you think it is moral/ethical, reasonable, to work towards censorship in a public venue?
peace, in His love, papajoe
I can't watch the video because my mom would be really mad if I watched something like this. But all I have to say is that this is really sad =( These Muslims really need Jesus in their lives.
So this is the relegion of peace and tolerence that Barak HUSEUN Obama wants the west to reach out to and offer and olive branch. This is the true fruit of Islam. And we see the same thing happened in Afganistan and Pakistan. There can be no peace with Islam. The Unites States may not be at war with Islam but Islam is at war with the United States. The problem is that those in the State Department and the President of the United States are too stupid to realize it. That is why I think both Afganistan and Pakistan are lost.
May the Lord have mercy on their souls.
Hi GreekAsianPanda... funny and cute name! May God bless you and youre family... Hope to see you around more often...
Simon wrote:
"i am really hurt for the muslim people who eyes r closed cause of the horrific teachings of quran. this video represently the muslim and wut they r. this video makes me sad and cry at the same time."
Yeah how wonderful is that verse in the quran telling for muslims to murder other muslims who want to become police officers.
Once again despite the fact muslim scholors have continously condemned all extremist actions 99% of whom muslims are killed), christians apparently wont understand that.
WomanforTruth,
You seem to have missed the point. Al Qaeda was killing these men for attempting to become police officers working for a regime that replaced Saddam's regime. Al Qaeda views these Muslims as befriending non-Muslims over Muslims. Now what, may I ask (though I already know), did Muhammad say about Muslims who join the enemy?
Hello Woman for Truth:
You say Muslim scholars have condemned Al-Qaida.OK.But have they condemned the fact that Sharia Law in its various different forms discriminates against us non-Muslims.They have not and never will,that is reality.
The question is:"Do YOU agree with them or are you 100% for the respect of the human rights of non-Muslims anywhere,whether in majority Muslim countries or not?"
Certainly you don't agree with them,with Al-Azhar and its scholars.Of that I am sure.
David you wrote AL-QUEDA VIEWS the current government as the enemy. But next it's as if your saying al-queda are true muslims. I, and i'm sure other muslims, don't agree with that.
Begining with Saddam Hussien, he built statues of himself. I'm guessing from your reasearch you know what a crime that is.
Is quite obvious back then when muslims continued to get attacked(like today in the mid-east), joining the enemy was disgraceful.
Lets look at a well known hadith
“O God, to You I complain of my weakness, lack of resources and humiliation before these people. You are the Most Merciful, the Lord of the weak and my Master. To whom will You consign me? To one estranged, bearing ill will, or an enemy given power over me? If You do not assign me any worth, I care not, for Your favor is abundant upon me. I seek refuge in the light of Your countenance by which all darkness is dispelled and every affair of this world and the next is set right, lest Thy anger should descend upon me or Your displeasure light upon me. I need only Your pleasure and satisfaction for only You enable me to do good and evade the evil. There is no power and no might but You.”
The Lord then sent the angel of mountains, seeking the permission of the Prophet to join together the two hills and crush the city of Taif, between which it was located. Out of his great tolerance and mercy, the Messenger of God replied,
“No! For, I hope that God will bring forth from their loins people who will worship God alone, associating nothing with Him.”
(Sahih Muslim)
Anyways what I wrote was about Al-queda not being muslim in a response to Simon.
Ali,
Let me ask a few questions before I respond to the rest of your comment. Which of the five pillars of Islam does Al Qaeda refuse to practice? Do they not recite the Shahadah? Do they refuse to pray five times per day? Do they avoid paying Zakat? Do they avoid fasting? Do they never take the Hajj?
And which of the six articles of faith do they reject?
Sorry David that was me who wrote that. I and a few others are using the same computer as Ali because we have a presentation at a mosque tomorrow.
Anyways David, I hope you realize religious fanatics exist in every faith and use religion to justify actions.
I can swear there is no God but Allah and Muhammed pbuh is his messanger. I may pray 5 times daily, I might fast during ramadan, I might give to charity and preform hajj if i can. Or i can do any, if not all, just for the sake of it. But at the same time I can go out on dates, go to party's with friends and drink, i can wear mini skirts and anything revealing or i can lose my virginity. You'll be surprised how many muslims do what i wrote. And I think killing innocent muslims can fit in quite nicely cant it?
More over, may i have such hadiths, quran verses about where Muhammed pbuh/God commanded the killing of other muslims?
Read this artcle-
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016476&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE
I have to ask the question, why has not one single Muslim posted a message to this attrocity, either giving an explination as to why it is ok, or condemming the actions of these evil people.
It appears, either Muslims are so appaled by this that they refuse to say anything (or they go and post an off topic comment) or they feel no need to comment as they see this as a perfect example of Islam in action and therefore is perfectly self explinatory as to the teachings of Mohummad.
WomanforTruth,
Good question. Muhammad commanded his followers to follow the path of the rightly-guided caliphs. When Muslims started refusing to pay the Zakat after Muhammad died, Abu Bakr declared war on them. Umar objected that these Muslims hadn't (1) committed adultery, (2) murdered anyone, or (3) apostatized. Yet Abu Bakr ruled that, in refusing to pay Zakat to the caliphs, the Muslims became apostates.
So the rule we find here is that if someone does something to violate the teachings of Muhammad, he may be treated as an apostate (which, as you know, requires the death penalty). Further, as you know, any Muslim who befriends non-believers is classified as a non-believer.
Given such teachings, it's not difficult to see how Al Qaeda can justify their atrocities.
Fernando,
If "WomenforLie666" is a reference to WomanforTruth, I think it's uncalled for. We know that what she is saying is wrong and contradicts Muhammad's teachings, but she's behaving well, and I don't see any reason for name-calling.
Ok... Doctor Wood... my mistake... ounce again I overcome the line off a true Christian... I'll refrain to do so in the future... I was boilling in small amount off water... I'll eben erase my comment and place a new one... thankes for the brotherly correction...
Doctor David Wood asked Ali (the self proclaimed deffendor off WomenforTruth101): «Let me ask a few questions before I respond to the rest of your comment. Which of the five pillars of Islam does Al Qaeda refuse to practice? Do they not recite the Shahadah? Do they refuse to pray five times per day? Do they avoid paying Zakat? Do they avoid fasting? Do they never take the Hajj? And which of the six articles of faith do they reject?»...
preciselly whate I habbe benn askin him aboutt the Talibans in another thread... He will know say they do not follow them "properly"... butt the question then is: who does deffy "prperly"? Ali? WomenforTruth101? or the major schools off islamic jurisprudence? hummm... lets waitte...
lol...christians have been killing themselves for last 2000 years form Judas to the lord's salvation army in uganda.What about two world years??? were they a party
what about two world wars?
what about Lord's salvation army in uganda??
what about Judas???
Hello...i am expecting a reply.But i dont think you will reply...ur policy just hit n run like a spineless coward.
VIVA LA PALESTINE
VIVA LA ISLAM
Sorry I've been away from the computer lately.
Paying Zakat is one of the 5 pillars that make up a muslim (again, doesn't necessarily mean they follow Islam). Zakat is for the poor which all muslims must pay. It takes greed away and ensures 2.5% goes for people who need shelter, water and food.
Not paying it means you become an unbeliever. But when intentionally not paying and denying zakat means you are Murtad. Abu Kabr was not fighting muslims. Also they revolted against him by tryin to establish mini states and created their own prophets like Musailmah Kazzab, Najah (the female prophetess), Aswad Ansi and so on.
They claimed they were the new prophets after Muhammed (peace be upon him) too.
There is no relation between this and extremists either.
Oh and Mr. Wood, where do any of my comments contradict islam?
To khan:
khan you're complitly missing the point.
What's the use of pointing to christianity ?
What part of do not kill in the Bible haven't you understood ?
What about the fact that most of the people whom are killing in the name of Lord Jesus Christ are mislead by their own mind or others ?
I mean think about it. The Lord is saying to us that we will be persecuted, that we will be throw to wild beasts, that we will have to answer to highest of people ?
And after saying that He never says: "but you fight back. And kill them all. Or anything like that." He says don't worry. The HOly spirit will help you.
He tells us: "Who ever loses his life for Me, HE will have LIFE FROM the FATHER."
And so on.
As for killing christians between christians: You can pray and help (and love) your enemy and at the same time kill him. So those where mislead or they weren't real christians. Maybe they weren't praying(I know this for a fact).
But this muslims that killed this were believing that they were making Allah's wish.
They were singing Allah Akbar.
While the christians killing christians weren't singing christian songs.
So I demand an answer from you.
Tell me if there isn't a difference.
Christians that don't know/live their faith versus muslims whom kill exactlly because of believing that they fullfill Allah's wish.
I DEMAND AN ANSWER FROM YOU KHAN.
Paul.
To khan:
khan you're complitly missing the point.
What's the use of pointing to christianity ?
What part of do not kill in the Bible haven't you understood ?
What about the fact that most of the people whom are killing in the name of Lord Jesus Christ are mislead by their own mind or others ?
I mean think about it. The Lord is saying to us that we will be persecuted, that we will be throw to wild beasts, that we will have to answer to highest of people ?
And after saying that He never says: "but you fight back. And kill them all. Or anything like that." He says don't worry. The HOly spirit will help you.
He tells us: "Who ever loses his life for Me, HE will have LIFE FROM the FATHER."
And so on.
As for killing christians between christians: You can pray and help (and love) your enemy and at the same time kill him. So those where mislead or they weren't real christians. Maybe they weren't praying(I know this for a fact).
But this muslims that killed this were believing that they were making Allah's wish.
They were singing Allah Akbar.
While the christians killing christians weren't singing christian songs.
So I demand an answer from you.
Tell me if there isn't a difference.
Christians that don't know/live their faith versus muslims whom kill exactlly because of believing that they fullfill Allah's wish.
I DEMAND AN ANSWER FROM YOU KHAN.
Paul.
edit:
"As for killing christians between christians: You can't pray and help (and love) your enemy and at the same time kill him."
"And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him" (4:93)
Muslims are not perfect...Islam is perfect.
Could anyone tell me how Jesus as a human can at the same time call himself GOD.I think that the thing with the trinity its absolutely absurd and it makes no sense at all can't hardly believe that there are people buying this crap!
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