Saturday, August 8, 2009

Muslims Attack News Crew

I wouldn't have posted this, but it brought back so many memories!

19 comments:

Unknown said...

Again, Violating all sort of laws wherever mulsims go !!

Sepher Shalom said...

I think it is abundantly clear that all freedom loving Americans, regardless of religion or belief, need to start "educating" Muslims as to what appropriate behavior and respect for the laws of this country requires.

The best way to do this is by going to places where you know Muslims will violate your rights and break the law, record it, and call the police to bring charges against them. Yes, many people could be abused and beaten while doing this, but that is the price of Liberty ladies and gentleman.

So, I encourage anyone who is confident in their ability not to strike back in violence, and prepared to be physically and emotionally harmed, to go into Muslim communities and gatherings, and put yourself in a position to have your rights violated.

It's time for some good old fashioned nonviolent resistance! Taking provocative action that forces a response is the name of the game. Leave them with two choices: 1) back down to a position of withdrawal, 2) strike out against you in violation of the law.

Fernando said...

Brother Sepher Shalom saide itt ounce again with clear perspicace: «1) back down to a position of withdrawal, 2) strike out against you in violation of the law»... yes: its enought just actting inside the law to makke muslims boile and break it since they habe no respect to itt...

Unknown said...

Sepher:go into Muslim communities and gatherings, and put yourself in a position to have your rights violated.....Taking provocative action that forces a response is the name of the game.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! Thank you for affirming the Quran!

When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only want to make peace!" (2:11)

Then again, I'm not surprised. Given how intellectually bankrupt most of the Christians here are, "gotcha" moments seem to the be the only rational course of action for these idiots.

Nora said...

Ha. I applied to teach there a while ago.

Fernando said...

Poor Ibn is back... did not Jesus put Himself in the position off being delivered, willingly, to dead in order to denounce the injustices made?

He did not killed His adversaries, He did nott wrotte anything in self-defence, He (not any off His apostles and disciples) did nott invented any providential revelantion in order to justify his actions... they speak for themself...

Poor Ibn... the banckrupt you see in others is the one pervades ALL muslim ideology... and Ibn: just two thins more:

1) if God is the greatest being one can imagine; and since we can imagine greater beings than that amaizingly ignorant god off the qur'an; this god off the qur'an is not the true God;

2) islam spread by violence...

Sepher Shalom said...

Ibn said: "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! "

I suggest you practice your reading comprehension skills. I am calling for nonviolent resistance. No "ammunition" required ;)

What I want to know is, do you chant the same hackneyed slogan over and over again toward your coreligionists every time they engage in hair-trigger voilent protesting over some perceived slight...like...say...some cartoons?

Ibn said: "Thank you for affirming the Quran! When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only want to make peace!" (2:11)"

The only ones I see making "mischief" in this vid are the Muslims who assaulted a news crew. While we're on the topic of "mischief", what does the Quran say the penalty for "mischief making" is?

5:33- The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;"

Ibn said: "Then again, I'm not surprised. Given how intellectually bankrupt most of the Christians here are, "gotcha" moments seem to the be the only rational course of action for these idiots."

Ibn, this news crew was a group of Christians? Where do you get that information from. All I saw was irrational behavior from Muslims, violating our Constitutional right to freedom of the press. Once again, another Muslim that blames the victim. If these Muslims hadn't broken the law, there would be nothing to say "gotcha" about. Lets also keep in mind that this wasn't a group trying to make a political statement. No, they were a news crew trying to simply do their job by filming a news story.

Of course, no comment from Ibn condemning the illegal action of his fellow Muslims. No, of course not. He simply chastizes the victims. You are living proof of why my previous comment is relevant.

nma said...

Ibn said...

Given how intellectually bankrupt most of the Christians here are, "gotcha" moments seem to the be the only rational course of action for these idiots.

Look who is talking! How many brilliant Muslim intellectuals are out there provided there are more than a billion muslims out there? How many brilliant muslim artists, scientists, writers etc. out there? The problem is, the brain functions of Muslims are repressed by a vague stupid concocted book called the Al-Quran.

Unknown said...

I said most of the Christians here are unintellectual and the responses of Fernando, Sepher and nma confirm my assertion.

Fernando says that Allah is not the greatest being conceivable and Islam was spread by violence. How are these relevant to this discussion or to what I have said? It seems that when I debated him about these issues sometime ago, the shock of being wrong devastated him so bad that he now constantly reminds himself of the veracity of his claims in order not to have a mental breakdown. It's like the bereft kid who keeps saying to himself, "I know daddy will come home". Alas! Daddy never comes home, and Fernando is wrong.

As for Sepher:I suggest you practice your reading comprehension skills. I am calling for nonviolent resistance.

Idiot, I didn't say otherwise. "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" was meant to be a characterization of the hypocrisy of "peace and enemy loving" Christians who love peace so much that they find it loving to break the peace of their lovable enemies and spread the seeds of communal discord.

I wonder if its you who is writing, or the dog that you consider a part of your family.

Sepher:Ibn, this news crew was a group of Christians?

I was talking about you, fool.

Lastly, nma. This guy is something! I said most of the Christians here are unintellectual and what does nma say in response

"Look who is talking!"

Lol! With that, nma admits the Christians here are morons but that I am not in a position to harp on this flaw.

How old are you nma?

Sepher Shalom said...

Ibn said: "Idiot, I didn't say otherwise.", "I wonder if its you who is writing, or the dog that you consider a part of your family.", "I was talking about you, fool."

Get some manners, grow up, and stop acting like a juvenile, disrespectful punk.

Fernando said...

Hi Ibn... you're on the way off reciving the great prize off being the ruddest and the moste devious commentator in this blogg...

I started by adressing your false claims... only then (as it's clearly stated by the «just two thins more») I refreshed your memory aboutt two past ebents we discussed around here in witch you left the debate running like "Speedy Gonzales" (no offense intended to bothe...)

Poor Ibn...

Anthony Rogers said...

Sepher,

Haaa! I think Fibn's little dog comment was a reference to me. Sorry you had to catch the flack for it.

Ibn,

This looks like a little "gotcha" moment for you, proving that your reading skills leave something to be desired. Sepher Shalom and Semper Paratus are two different people.

Also, that "member" of my family is for any Muslim like yourself who wants to come and make "mischief" at my house. You wouldn't stand a chance, not even with Muhammad's sword.

Anthony Rogers said...

Ibn said: It's like the bereft kid who keeps saying to himself, "I know daddy will come home". Alas! Daddy never comes home, and Fernando is wrong.

Ibn, now I am confused. Are you and Fernando the same person?

For you and all Muslims "Daddy" is never coming home; you are all Fatherless. Allah is no more the father of any of your people than Muhammad is. Your paternally-challenged religion should caution you to ever open your mouth along these lines.

Sepher Shalom said...

Semper Paratus said: "Haaa! I think Fibn's little dog comment was a reference to me. Sorry you had to catch the flack for it."

I was wondering what that was about. No worries. It seems this blog has become something of a "live fire" shooting range lately...and I've come to expect that kind of infantile behavior from certain people around here ;)

Anthony Rogers said...

Sepher,

What really makes me laugh is thinking about how long Ibn has been responding to one or the other of us without knowing we are two different people.

I don't mind being confused with you, and I would have let it go on and just continued to laugh at Ibn's gaff, but I didn't think you deserved any of the abuse that properly falls to me. Besides that, I have thick skin. Ibn doesn't bother me. I grew up in a rough environment around unsaved (and unsavory) people, and pious Muslims like Ibn differ little from them.

Sepher Shalom said...

Semper said: "What really makes me laugh is thinking about how long Ibn has been responding to one or the other of us without knowing we are two different people."

LOOOL! Now that is the stuff of comic gold! That really made me smile :D

and: "I don't mind being confused with you"

Same here. I take it as a compliment.

and: "but I didn't think you deserved any of the abuse that properly falls to me."

It's OK. I do a really good rope-a-dope ;)

nu said...

Reading through this thread (and other threads) I just keep wondering how it is that people can cling to a 'truth' which they have to defend, and stand up for by being abusive, rude, patronising and down-right bad-mannered. What kind of god is this who is honoured by his followers' insults,violence, and rudeness??

I would just like to say that I find Ehteshaam Gulam so very polite and unrude- i know not all muslims are rude insultors of others, but there is something very (surprisingly) gracious about you Ehteshaam, thanks for being that way!

Back to my comments.... I think that the blame-the-victim, insult-whoever-contradicts-you approach that some muslims on this blog have (and as i have experienced in my own interaction with muslims) SHOUTS louder than whatever truths muslims try to put across.

If Allah is all merciful and compassionate- why are you so merciless?? So merciless to the point that you will blame a victim!! If Allah tells you to insult, subjugate and if necessary (and preferrably) kill off anyone who disagrees with what he says or who leaves his faith- how can you praise him for being merciful and compassionate?

How do you know that He will show you mercy, when all your life he has directed you to be mean, to insult and to even to kill(dying while you are murdering others is the direct ticket to paradise)?? Do you trust him with your life? Your after-life? Do you even think about this?

Can a muslim on this blog please please please show me/tell me any acts of mercy, non-violence, kindness, worthiness and goodness that Allah or his prophet have to their name. Please, i really would like to know some.

This thread was started because of a video in which muslims attacked a news crew; instead of talking about the intellectual bankruptcy of Christians and looking for 'gotcha' moments, can a muslim PLEASE put forward something to counter what this video tells any normal person- that muslims are violent people.

Muslim brothers, trying to character-assasinate does not do your faith any favours, just as it would not do christianity any favours if christians tried to prove the 'rightness' of their faith by insulting muslims.

So,could a muslim brother or sister please give us some act/video or something which demonstrates that islam does not inspire violence, but inspires the sorts of things we would all instinctively call 'good'.

Thanks.

W.I.S.A.I.T. said...

remember now its not "PC" to say its "islam" or "muslims" doing acts of violence but just "radicals" with a %1 minority of the muslim population. mind you they teach their children this violence in schools thus bringing forth yet another generation of intolerant ignorant people who see nothing but the destruction of western society in general..even though they cant seem to maintain this "Islamic peace" in an all Islamic society..lets take Afghanistan for a little hint as to what this consists of...any arguments?? please read your quran CAREFULLY before responding..we wouldnt want you to fall into that category of "ignorant" now would we?

minoria said...

ONLY 15%

According to WALID SHOEBAT(ex-Muslim,now Christian,who speaks against Islamic terrorism,he's in youtube) and others only 15% of 1.2 billion Muslims actually support the actions of the terrorists.That is 180 million.

BUT...

What I later learned and what the Muslim intellectuals in the West don't say,and what 99% of Westerners don't know or want to believe is this:

Most Muslims in the world and maybe also in the West are in favor of having laws where we non-Muslims(Hindus,atheists,agnostics,Jews,etc)are to be second-class citizens(just like black people in the US South for 100 years in the days of segregation laws).

And those same intellectuals don't tells us that all the Muslim countries signed the CAIRO Declaration of Human Rights in 1990.There human rights,including freedom of speech and religion are subject to Islamic Law.In other words they say we non-Muslims should be imprisoned or executed for criticizing Mohammed and the Koran.

TO BE DONE PEACEFULLY

They don't agree with the violence of Hamas,Al-Qaida,etc.But they agree with their objective of imposing Islamic Law,but peacefully.

WHY?

Because Islam is the true religion,and Islamic law is what God wants.It is obeying God,to be against it is to be bad,and risk going to hell.

DIFFERENCE OF DEGREE

It is the same TYPE of intolerance.What those Sharia Muslims disagree on is the DEGREE of punishment to those who blaspheme against Islam:a fine of $100 to several days in jail,to several months,to several years,to execution.

RACISM

The same way.People can be racist,it is the same TYPE of intolerance but the DEGREE of action is different:from only social exclusion,to laws against such a person going to the same school,to not having the right to vote,to being denied certain jobs.