Monday, January 26, 2009

Muslims in Malmo

Watch the progression of events in this video about demonstrations in Malmo, Sweden.

(1) Jews have a peaceful demonstration (backed by a permit) singing songs and hurting no one.
(2) Muslims (with no permit) gather in much larger numbers and start hurling rocks, eggs, bottles, and eventually a rocket.
(3) The police, knowing they have much less to fear from a group of Jews than a group of Muslims, tell the Jews to leave.



And here's some more about Muslims in Malmo:



I know, I know. "David, how dare you mention any of this? David, a Jew once threw a rock at me, so it's okay for these Muslims to throw rocks back. David, how dare you inform people of what's happening in Europe? David, you don't live in Sweden, so you have no right to post a video about Sweden." And so on.

17 comments:

Sami Zaatari said...

serves them right, any barbarian who protests in favor of Israel after what they did deserves to be pelted with eggs and other small objects.

the irony from Wood is amazing, its ok to kill 1300 ppl, mainly civillians, leave 50,000 homeless, over 2 billion dollars of damage, its ok to march for this, but not ok to pelt the ppl who support this!!! any person who marches in favor of an army thats killing kids and woman deserves to be pelted, heck being pelted is abit too good for these savages.

David, why didnt you post an article where the chief Rabbi of the Israeli millitary told the IDF to show no mercy at all, hmm I WONDER FROM WHERE THE RABBI GOT THIS TEACHING FROM, couldnt be from the bible, noooooo

Matthew said...

"I WONDER FROM WHERE THE RABBI GOT THIS TEACHING FROM, couldnt be from the bible, noooooo"

lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

Sami Zaatari said...

as we speak tens of thousands are homeless, even the ones with homes have no electricity and running water, not to mention the thousand plus dead, but no, poor those protesers who got pelted with eggs, awwwwwwwwww im so sorry, yes yes, forget the fact they support the oppression i mentioned.

if ppl saw the kkk marching down the street u can bet theyd do the same.

Sami Zaatari said...

heres some comments from youtube:

lestatmills (6 days ago) Show Hide +3 Marked as spam Reply | Spam its to fucking late for them to leave, they wont n if we dont like it what we gna do? sit on our arses n complaine??? post fucking video's on youtube??? yh well done. make our ansestors proud ov what they fucking faught for, stop fucking complaining about it n fucking do summet about it, if i wna watch a video on youtube it will be to see some white english, irish, scotish or welsh spilling some muslim blood

junglemaster2014 (2 days ago) Show Hide +2 Marked as spam Reply | Spam well said friend
junglemaster2014 (6 days ago) Show Hide +1 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yeah there is i hope and im hoping to go to america and try and sneak some guns back into this country to fight them with before it happens

:) i thought id post these to give a balanced view as this site likes to paint this as a 1 way thing, you can pretend to make it seem that Muslims are the evil bad guys, sorry folks, theres a reality, a reality you want to ignore, and those comments i posted are the tip of the iceberg.

OumAmir said...

Frankly, I blame Hamas for this latest mess. The Israelis acted consistently with their past actions and what does Hamas do? Shoot rockets in Israel and then retreat into one of the most densely populated places on earth. They are cowards. They run into Ghaza and allow their children to be massacred so they can take horrific pictures and drum up sympathy. I am a Palestinian mother and I would never allow my children to be sacrificed for such idiocy.

Sami Zaatari said...

oumamir, your a zionist mouth piece and should join IDF's youtube channel, you would make good propaganda for them. :)

everytime Israel has bombed people they claimed Hamas was in the area, and as the investigation is being done mose times it has been found that the Israelis were lying as usual, there were no Hamas in the area.

sheesh, all reporters but a tiny who were in gaza prior the war were barred from the war, so tell me oum from where did you get this info? lol lol STRAIGHT FROM THE IDF'S lips! how nice. so your just spreading their propaganda, UN people who were on the ground and scenes of bombing called Israels claims as nonsense, and want a full investigation of what Israel did, because unlike you, they dont actually believe the zionist propagand machine.

george said...

sami zaatari,STOP barking here,
if 1300 death of muslims got u on fire then how much our world has to be own fire and kill each and single muslims for the death of millions of non-muslims bt muslims ???????
you have to know that israel warned hamas to stop rockets or else they well attack,second even they showered pamphlets asking palestine to move to other places coz they are planing to attack .its israels maturity that they attacked with warning and announcement to quiet the place so save their lives.but on other hand,muslims never warn but attack people when they are not aware of it second islamic terrorist are cowards so islamic armies ,they never fight face to face but on hide and attack.

no neighbour living near muslims nation have ever sleeped well.eg,just look what happennes to nations which are close to banglades,pakistan,palestine and so>
even in my nation india,muslims comes on protest and destroys public property and harm others.muslims are 7th century people and they will have like wild animals.

Nakdimon said...

“Frankly, I blame Hamas for this latest mess. The Israelis acted consistently with their past actions and what does Hamas do? Shoot rockets in Israel and then retreat into one of the most densely populated places on earth. They are cowards. They run into Ghaza and allow their children to be massacred so they can take horrific pictures and drum up sympathy. I am a Palestinian mother and I would never allow my children to be sacrificed for such idiocy.”

Finally someone talking sense about the situation in Gaza. And as usual, Sami doesn’t listen. As soon as you say something positive about Israel, or you just don’t blame them for what is going on over there, you are a Zionist, an IDF mouthpiece or a Mossad agent. Why can’t Muslims catch up with reality?

Sami, you really can’t tell me that you don’t see any substance in what OumAmir is saying. I have asked you before and I will ask you again. How come that when Israel issues warnings to the people in particular places that they should leave because bombs will be dropped, those people somehow end up at the exact place that Israel told them NOT to be? Not once, not twice, but repeatedly. Answer please.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

Sorry guys

I am awfully busy with my dissertation, as well as Greek and Hebrew studies at the moment, I will be fairly passive on the blog for the next two months or so.

However, let me just comment here. I am of the opinion, that Muslims should be free to propagate their religion on the West only when Christians can propagate and challenge Islam in the city of Mecca (the way Christianity grows at the moment, and islam is declining among Muslims in Muslim countries, I am sure the day will come in nearby future).

I do believe that it is ok to receive immigrants and refugees but the rule should remain that these are to subject to the rules and culture of the country (unfortunately the authorities of UK, Sweeden and Holland are utterly failing here). And if the country is self-confessed Christian, that Islam should be prohibited to be practicesed until Muslim provide the same freedom for Christians in Muslim countries including and in Saudi Arabia (where there are many local Arab Christians).

That my personal opinion, I think fair has to fair. And I am not optiong for the persecution of Muslims at all.

Instead believe the West has been far too quick in providing passports and citizenships to foreigners. How ought the West to tackle the problem, Well I personally favour the rules in Arabic countries that a foreigner can enter the country, live there his entire life, start a business, buy a house, but never become a citizen. In that way he can enjoy his life as if he was a citizen, but if he messes up or provokes the authorities (as we see here) he si simply told to leave back to where he came from. I believe that this is the only way to keep control, and should be the way the West ought to handle immigration in future.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

And Zaatari, I guess we are both concerned about the people in Gaza, but I do feel that having Hamaz in a ruling position, rather than selecting a political rule that sought to let the past go and focus on improving and developing the country, was a mistake by the people of Israel. I don't know, I just can imagine that UK would act differently from Israel if France launched 800 missiles into southern England. Initially it would be war.

Also, I am told (and have yet to confirm this) that one particular area of Israel has been bombarded by Hamas from the Gaza border for the last 8 months. If that is true, we can imagine that such would not prove to bring the two countries together in any peace agreement. Virtually no country would put up with it.

How the present situation can be solved, I have no easy solution.
As Christians however, we need to be very careful, (despite that we recognise God's future, escatological plan with Israel) that we do not cherish the death of Palestinian individuals any more than the Israelies.

As to the escalation of this situation on our streets in the West, it is deplorable, as it has lead to provocation against authorities and revealed the continuous anti-Jewish attitude, which would one expect the Second World War had done with, but no.

The matter related is, if other groups would appear on the same rampage against nations or philosphies for similar actions. How would the Muslim world take it, that hundreds of thousand of Christians do not march against the embassies of Sudan that greatly oppresses and genocides Christians, and not to forget the Arabic embassies that represent countries were hundreds of thousands of Christian women and girls have been deported to as slaves or/and sex-slaves. The scary matter here is that the Sudanese government entitled this jihad and the enslaving of Christian women was a matter that corresponded with the Qur'an and the Hadith even in modern days. Hence this cannot be separated from Islam as a religion. The same is true of attrocities against Christians in Indonesia, where the government allowed welcome tables on the airports to welcome international or national Jihad warriors who had come to kill Christians. These informations are not welcome among Muslims, but the demonization of Israel is. What Wood posts on the blog is enough to bring up anger in the Muslim mind even though it often reveals the situation of our Christian brothers and sisters. Now imagine if just one brain in the West managed to motivate the Christians to fight for the freedom of Christians in Muslim countries, yeah Islam would be terribly demonized, and most people would understand if eggs, tomatos or bottles would be thrown at those individuals who back up islam or the countries that support such action (yet God forbid that to happpen). I guess many Christians react the way they do because the Christian cause is being undermined and occasionally even accepted.

Sami Zaatari said...

nakdimon those people end up in the place where Israel told them not to be, lol lol lol, Israel told a group of people to go into a building and later bombed it, give us a break. no, there is no substance in any of what she said, israel has been caught lying and lying time after time. only a fool really believes Israel wasnt intentionally killing civillians, after all the news thats comming out, and now we even have the chief rabbi saying show no mercy.

as to hogan, lol thats a fantasy you have, Muslims are not shrinking in Muslim countries, but if you want to believe that fantasy then go ahead. secondly, Makkah is one city, so Muslims cant preach in the west because you cant preach in Makkah? And no, Christians should not be allowed into Makkah to preach, Makkah is a pure Islamic city, why should we let you in to speak evil against our religion in our most holiest place, where you spread your lies that the Kaaba is pagan bla bla bla, i dont want to listen to missionaries preaching to me while i am doing my pilgrimage, the day will never arrive when we allow Christian preaching into Makkah, trust me on that. Thirdly, the west is not Christian according to the west, but secular, so Muslims are as free to preach as they want, Makkah is not secular, but purely Islamic and says no other faith is allowed in this city as it is only for Islam.

as for fair is fair, hogan have you even visited a Muslim country, because it seems you havent, and you only spread your nonsense propaganda which you hear over the internet, unlike you i grew up in a Muslim country, and visited others. Christianity is not banned in Muslim countries, there are large Christian populations in Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Christianity is not outlawed in any of them, nor is outlawed in the gulf states, the same applies to Muslim countries worldwide.

Fernando said...

Sami said: «there are large Christian populations in Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Christianity is not outlawed in any of them, nor is outlawed in the gulf states, the same applies to Muslim countries worldwide»...

Really?

And do you mean thate iff Christianity it isn't outlawed everythinge else thate is happening is muslims countries to Christians is OK? Shameful!!!

OumAmir said...

Sami said "oumamir, your a zionist mouth piece and should join IDF's youtube channel, you would make good propaganda for them. :) "

I'd be insulted, but the smiley totally eliminated the anger I might have felt by being lumped in the with Zionists and the IDF.

Bryant said...

Hogan said:

"And if the country is self-confessed Christian, that Islam should be prohibited to be practicesed until Muslim provide the same freedom for Christians in Muslim countries including and in Saudi Arabia (where there are many local Arab Christians)."

I'm sorry brother but I disagree. Even though in many Muslim lands they don't allow us to worship, I believe that we should never return the fire by banning them. In Islam their is no love and forgiveness. Everything is always retaliatory. Muslims return hate for hate, but Christians should not do this. I believe we should let them worship. I believe what your proposing will only be used to fuel more hatred.

Sami said:

"...why should we let you in to speak evil against our religion in our most holiest place, where you spread your lies that the Kaaba is pagan bla bla bla,"

What lies? And you say others are living in a dream world. You all kiss a pagan Idol.

Nakdimon said...

Sami: nakdimon those people end up in the place where Israel told them not to be, lol lol lol, Israel told a group of people to go into a building and later bombed it, give us a break. no, there is no substance in any of what she said, israel has been caught lying and lying time after time. only a fool really believes Israel wasnt intentionally killing civillians, after all the news thats comming out, and now we even have the chief rabbi saying show no mercy.


You obviously are just saying this for shock value. You have no proof that Israel targets civilians or tells them to go into a building that they intend to blow up. That you accuse Israel of lying while you do just exactly that shows, again, the Muslim mindset. Just like the Qur’an, you accuse Jews of doing exactly what you are most guilty of. As for the rabbi saying showing no mercy. No mercy to whom? Any civilian or to Hamas?

So, at the end of the day, you haven’t answered the question: How come that when Israel issues warnings to the people in particular places that they should leave because bombs will be dropped, those people somehow end up at the exact place that Israel told them NOT to be?

And second: WHERE WERE THE HAMAS FIGHTERS? They were simply hiding among the civilians, that’s why you didn’t see them anywhere.

Nakdimon said...

Sami: And no, Christians should not be allowed into Makkah to preach, Makkah is a pure Islamic city, why should we let you in to speak evil against our religion in our most holiest place,

Well, if that’s the case, then I suggest all Muslims should get out of Yerushalayim, because that is the holy city of our God Yahweh that is now being defiled by your presence. No dividing up Jerusalem, as the prophet Yo’el said:

I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

Zami are you sure there are no Christians Mecca? Furthermore, I don't think you have access as I have to the statistics of Muslim converts in Saudi Arabi which is much higher than converts to Islam in UK.

Also when I said that Islam should be banned from propagating its religion, I meant purely Christian countries not secular. And you yourself stated that Mecca is a purely Islamic city, which is why no other evil religion should be propagated in the midst of it. The what is the problem if a purely Christian country bans islam. Also you said that Christians should not be allowed into this purely Islamic city, are you saying that Christians would be justified in banning Muslims from purely Christian countries. Notice, I do not say that, I am merely using your example here.

Also when I said that the West needs to ban islamic propagation, I said that such should be done in all fairness, as Muslims generally do not provide this freedom to Christians or non-Muslims in their own countries.

And I agree with you brother Bryant, don't misunderstand, I am referring to a national level of action not a personal (I am not consider faith here but politic). I believe every country has a right to protect its self and its interests provided those interests are ethical. Just look at the freedom we provided atheism in the 70 and 80s in Europe, that has have weakened our continent, our authorities, our national unity, destroyed morality, family, marriage. All the while (at least at that time) most of the radical exponents of this philosphy propagated the message of communism, which almost outlawed religion in their political realm. We do not need to kill or persecute Muslims much like we did not kill or persecute communists (even though I agree such did happen occasionally in some locations of USA), but we can take away the right to propagate; until such freedom is provided for our brothers and sisters in Muslim countries.

Also Sami stated that I have never lived or travelled in Muslim countries, wrong bro! I have travelled in many countries and several Muslim countries. I have worked with Muslim converts to Christianity in Muslim countries and non-Muslim countries, I have myself been persecuted, and seen my own fellow believers been persecuted for the reason of being Christians (not because they broke the law). However these details I will keep to myself, they are painful and they belong to a time in my life when I was very young and green.