James White vs. Jalal Abualrub: "Does the New Testament Teach that Jesus Is God?"
As far as I can tell, this debate was over by the time James finished his opening statement. (One important note: Jalal admitted that God can enter into His creation.)
Yeah for Jalal to debate Christian Theology he was bound to lose, that was pitiful. I believe Jalal was completely wasted, ill equip and a very poor speaker. No doubt the same will for go for Zaatari vs White, Muslims can't debate, Shabir is the only thing that comes even close.
Fascinating that Jalal refers to Christian denominations to argue for the authorship of the Gospels. As far as I know all Christians believe that the apostles, Matthew, Mark (who dicated the apostle Peter), John, and the apostolic successor Luke (a companion of the eyewitnesses)wrote the Gospels. The argument against this is posed by the atheist scholarship that needs to propose this to avoid a reliable, historical chain of witness.
Amen, i praise the Lord for people like Dr.James White he didnt even want the audience to clap for him after he made such a strong and convincive statement.
Wow.. couldn't follow Jalal at all. What was his point?? He really didn't have a foot to stand on in that debate. Zero evidence, zero citations, only twisted interpretations of greek words which he, by his own admission, didn't understand at all. Wow.
Listening to this debate, I always dread when it is Jalal's turn to speak... Not that he was throwing out convincing or dreadful arguments... but that he was just such a terrible speaker and was making no sense whatsoever in his arguments...
I salute Dr James White that he was able to maintain his cool and continue with properly debating Jalal.. I was practically ignoring Jalal whenever he speaks.
Awesome. Loved the part at the end when James basically said there was absolutely no proof in the Quran to accept Muhammed as a prophet of God.
But the moment Jalal started attacking the authenticity of the Bible and claimed that we don't have the original taurat and injil, White should have quickly come up with some verses from the Quran (that clearly attests to the fact that Muhammed had access to the original and authentic and uncorrupt versions of the injil and taurat during his lifetime) and then attack and bring him down.
I believe Sam Shamoun would have made a living fool out of Jalal if he was in this debate. I am not saying White didn't do good, and I agree that Jalal intentionally used deceit and lies like typical muslims do and was not able to refute even a single argument and proof presented by White, but....
White actually doesn't attack his opponents like Sam does.
it's a funny that bro jalal accused that bible is corrupt n change here n there but can't prove it with solid n strong argument, well most in the world if you make an argument of something (accused) with no references to back it up people would call you a liar or just bluffing.
the topic of the debate is NT teach that Jesus is God, bro james presented is solid but bro jalal jump here n there pick a text that supported his argument without read all complete text n context.
why jalal always ask bro james to prove who wrote or authenticity of the NT, for what ? for generations christianity believe that NT teach about who Jesus is what he done for all mankind, if bro jalal said that Jesus only for bani israil then jesus would not do miracle to roman officer or other people outside jews since they are all gentiles but jesus did do miracles to them.
correct me if i'm wrong, is there a muslim soldier in US Army who fight in Iraq ? well if yes then bro jamal could not use the politic into religion teaching.
well put it this way, if i a gentiles / non believer then i read about Jesus born was miracle prove by prophecy also from kings from east, his teaching, miracles which beyond our thought (water to wine, walk on water, winds, fish in lake, blind to see, cripple to walk, possess by demons is release, even death would raise again. as for jesus himself yes he died for the sake of all our sin but remember he rise n ascendant to heaven ... n then would return again not as a savior just like the first coming but as a judge for all man.
well for muhammad who came later after jesus should he do better than Jesus ? history told otherwise and he died as a normal human being and in the last his breath still doesn't know would he go to heaven or not
well let me put this way .. if there are two men want to direct me how the best way go to some place which one do i believe ? a guy who still uncertain about it or a person who already got there ?
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Yeah for Jalal to debate Christian Theology he was bound to lose, that was pitiful. I believe Jalal was completely wasted, ill equip and a very poor speaker. No doubt the same will for go for Zaatari vs White, Muslims can't debate, Shabir is the only thing that comes even close.
Brilliant job James, I loved it!
Fascinating that Jalal refers to Christian denominations to argue for the authorship of the Gospels. As far as I know all Christians believe that the apostles, Matthew, Mark (who dicated the apostle Peter), John, and the apostolic successor Luke (a companion of the eyewitnesses)wrote the Gospels. The argument against this is posed by the atheist scholarship that needs to propose this to avoid a reliable, historical chain of witness.
Can't wait to see the London debates!
We'll be praying for Dr. White and you David.
Idem, ibidem... may the true God of our Lord, saviour and himself God, Jesus Crist guide you both... i'l be praying...
Jalal seems to be one of the more pleasant islamic debaters.
Amen, i praise the Lord for people like Dr.James White he didnt even want the audience to clap for him after he made such a strong and convincive statement.
islaam is truth
Wow.. couldn't follow Jalal at all. What was his point?? He really didn't have a foot to stand on in that debate. Zero evidence, zero citations, only twisted interpretations of greek words which he, by his own admission, didn't understand at all. Wow.
at the end jalal didnt want to get up and shake hands. he was starting to hate ."smiling to your face whilst cursing you in their heart"
I just had to drop a comment on this debate...
Listening to this debate, I always dread when it is Jalal's turn to speak... Not that he was throwing out convincing or dreadful arguments...
but that he was just such a terrible speaker and was making no sense whatsoever in his arguments...
I salute Dr James White that he was able to maintain his cool and continue with properly debating Jalal.. I was practically ignoring Jalal whenever he speaks.
Awesome. Loved the part at the end when James basically said there was absolutely no proof in the Quran to accept Muhammed as a prophet of God.
But the moment Jalal started attacking the authenticity of the Bible and claimed that we don't have the original taurat and injil, White should have quickly come up with some verses from the Quran (that clearly attests to the fact that Muhammed had access to the original and authentic and uncorrupt versions of the injil and taurat during his lifetime) and then attack and bring him down.
I believe Sam Shamoun would have made a living fool out of Jalal if he was in this debate. I am not saying White didn't do good, and I agree that Jalal intentionally used deceit and lies like typical muslims do and was not able to refute even a single argument and proof presented by White, but....
White actually doesn't attack his opponents like Sam does.
it's a funny that bro jalal accused that bible is corrupt n change here n there but can't prove it with solid n strong argument, well most in the world if you make an argument of something (accused) with no references to back it up people would call you a liar or just bluffing.
the topic of the debate is NT teach that Jesus is God, bro james presented is solid but bro jalal jump here n there pick a text that supported his argument without read all complete text n context.
why jalal always ask bro james to prove who wrote or authenticity of the NT, for what ? for generations christianity believe that NT teach about who Jesus is what he done for all mankind, if bro jalal said that Jesus only for bani israil then jesus would not do miracle to roman officer or other people outside jews since they are all gentiles but jesus did do miracles to them.
correct me if i'm wrong, is there a muslim soldier in US Army who fight in Iraq ? well if yes then bro jamal could not use the politic into religion teaching.
well put it this way, if i a gentiles / non believer then i read about Jesus born was miracle prove by prophecy also from kings from east, his teaching, miracles which beyond our thought (water to wine, walk on water, winds, fish in lake, blind to see, cripple to walk, possess by demons is release, even death would raise again.
as for jesus himself yes he died for the sake of all our sin but remember he rise n ascendant to heaven ... n then would return again not as a savior just like the first coming but as a judge for all man.
well for muhammad who came later after jesus should he do better than Jesus ? history told otherwise and he died as a normal human being and in the last his breath still doesn't know would he go to heaven or not
well let me put this way .. if there are two men want to direct me how the best way go to some place which one do i believe ? a guy who still uncertain about it or a person who already got there ?
well i think you know who would i choose ...
God Bless U All ...
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