Saturday, December 13, 2014
Merry Christmas From Some of Your Favorite Muslims!!!
As the day on which many Christians celebrate the birth of Christ approaches, some of your favorite Muslims are back to wish you a Merry Christmas. Since many Muslims actually believe it is worse to wish someone a Merry Christmas than it is to murder someone, the willingness of men like Yusuf Estes, Abu Mussab Wajdi Akari, Zakir Naik, et al., to appear in the following video, as well as their teachableness and the exuberance they eventually show for Christiams, is all the more remarkable.
33 comments:
Nice video, Anthony. I am just curious, who decided on 12/25 to be the Lord Jesus Christ's birthdate? From reading the Bible, it seems that he was born sometime in either Spring or Summer, because of the date fruit was ripe. You couldn't have ripe dates in December.
So why 12/25? Why this exact date?
Thanks,
Osama Abdallah
These muslims have no conscience. These are the two faces of islam. Their whole life is lived in pretense. Taqqiyah is the order of the day.
Lol -That is awesome!
Osama,
December 25th is the day on which Christ's birth is (freely, not obligatorily) celebrated by many Christians, irregardless of whether that was the exact day. I have seen good responses to those who argue for another date, but I am not that concerned about the question to wrangle over it.
Now can I get a "Merry Christmas" from you?
Anthony the video is just as funny today as it was last year. Its a timeless classic lol
Merry Christmas to Anthony Rogers and to all Christians here :).
By the way, all Muslim countries that have Christians in them do celebrate Christmas. Celebrating the birth of one of Allah Almighty's Greatest Prophets and Messengers is something Islam has no issues with. Gee, the more holidays the better anyway! LOL. Bring in Mother Mary's birthday too. Doesn't she deserve some love too? :) hehehehhe.
This video is QUALITY
Osama, From your history, it is obvious that this line of questioning is not from curiosity but yet another attempt by a Muslim to discredit Christianity.
Isn't it obvious to you that Christianity hinges on the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, rather than a mere date that Christians have selected tho celebrate Christ's birth? Why are Muslims so hung up on details when it comes to religions other than Islam?
What you should be worrying your heads about instead are baffling questions in Islam , like why do Muslims kiss the black idol embedded in the cubed idol in the haram mosque in Mecca, or how do you know for sure whether it iwas an angel or a demon that visited Mohammed in the cave, because his symptoms surely did show signs of demonic possession, like suicidal tendencies and frothing in the mouth.
Christianity has stood the test of time and the scrutiny of many critics over the ages, while Islam remains sheltered from questioning.... But for how long?
People all over the civilized world are getting sick and tired of this oppressive ideology. Islam will not be able to withstand serious scrutiny from critics, and will fall like a house of cards, that is why questioning Islam is forbidden everywhere.
@ Osama
Merry Christmas, Osama! I hope that you find your right calling.
Have you tried asking God to reveal his true nature to you and lead you on the correct path? Please do that. Make it a personal prayer and be open, genuinely open, to what the Lord may communicate to you.
@ Osama
I lived in Iraq during the Saddam Hussien regime (which was a somewhat good time for Christians) and there was still no holiday during Christmas time. So Im just curious as to what Islamic Country have Christmas holiday??
Merry Christmas Osama,
The timing of Christmas was chosen so that it could replace the very popular pagan festival of saturnalia, which occurred at the same time of year.
You can try religious point scoring with this, but you would be on shaky ground given the wholesale importation of pagan rituals into Islam.
Traditionally Christmas wasn't a very important festival compared to Easter (which, you'll be pleased to hear, has a date decided by LUNAR considerations-this little fact is my xmas gift to all the Muslims out there).
I'm glad that Muslim countries with Christians celebrate Christmas.
Sadly Christian populations are decreasing rapidly in Muslim countries (where there still are any) due to the endless persecution from the religion of peace adherents.
If you live in one of them, make the most of Christmas. It probably won't be around in Muslim countries for much longer.
Bah Humbug!
"Isn't it obvious to you that Christianity hinges on the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, rather than a mere date that Christians have selected tho celebrate Christ's birth?"
Actually, the Bible isn't fixed at all on these things, nor does it confirm that they happened. The Bible, on the contrary, is in great conflict with itself regarding them. You can visit the following to see the ample passages that clearly prove my statement:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
"You can try religious point scoring with this, but you would be on shaky ground given the wholesale importation of pagan rituals into Islam."
All I asked was a simple question. But to answer your empty claims, no Islam doesn't have pagan rituals in it at all. It was the pagans who hijacked the ORIGINAL Islam that came from Ishmael and Abraham, peace be upon them, and incorporated them into their pagan religions and practices. All of Islam's Rituals:
1- Circumambulation (tawaaf) 7 times around the Kaaba.
2- Praying.
3- Fasting.
And all other ones are 100% supported in the Bible. To remove your ignorance, and to learn some Truth from the cloud of ignorance and hate that you're trapped in that is spiritually blinding you, visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/tawaaf_around_kaaba_supported_in_bible.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/que11.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Hey A. Nasir, Christmas is a public holiday in Malaysia, and I think Indonesia too. However, Good Friday is not a holiday. Could be because Christians are only 10% of the population so that's the only Christian holiday on the Malaysian calendar. I suppose we can't complain about this.
@Dacritic
Funny you say that, I lived in Malaysia for 6 years on a work permit.this was in 1995 when mahathir mohamad was prime minister. First you are right they do have Christmas as a holiday, However you must understand Malaysia is made up of 3 different races (malay, Chinese and Indian) and they celebrate all,(especially Chinese new year) but things have started to change since Abdullah Ahmad Badawi took office. I've been hearing reports that they are trying to get back to more strict islamic laws so I guess that soon will be gone too.
Osama said all muslim countries celebrate Christmas as it was a religious islamic duty which is completely misleading thing to say.
Btw Malaysia is a beautiful country, and its a must see.
Also, visit this link:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/black_stone.htm
Osama Abdallah
"Osama said all muslim countries celebrate Christmas as it was a religious islamic duty which is completely misleading thing to say."
I said all Muslim countries that have Christians in them do celebrate (decorate and allow for the Christians to have the day off) Christmas. I never said it is a religious duty or a must upon Muslims. I said Islam has no issues with it. Just like Islam would have no issues celebrating any Prophet's birthday or any special occasion, especially if a good percentage of the population belong to his Religion.
There is nothing wrong from celebrating the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ, or Mother Mary. Please don't confuse my statement with accepting trinity as a valid belief. Trinity is a false polytheistic religion.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
For Osama to say that the Bible is in conflict with itself concerning Christ's death and resurrection, Osama would have to deny that the New Testament is part of the Bible. The Gospels and other writings contained therein are clear apologia concerning the validity of these claims, especially how they are a fufilment of Tanakh expectations concerning the Messiah.
To read the New Testament and come away with the idea that it doesn't advocate the death and resurrection of Jesus, is like me reading the quran and getting the impression that Mohammed is not Allah's prophet, regardless of whether I believe its true or not.
Abu Nasir...nothing has changed...Malaysia still is the same as you remember it.. They tried to push for islamic laws but it didn't get any support from the Muslims and Muslims join in the celebrations and gets drunk during Christmas ( they don't need a reason to get hammered actually! ) especially in The Jump / Planet Hollywood, you know how it was...you were there 6 years !!! Badawi had a major fall...so bad he has not been heard since..
And thank you for the nice compliment.. She is beautiful..isn't she ?
Osama says "Actually, the Bible isn't fixed at all on these things, nor does it confirm that they happened..... "
Osama, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not your own mental excrement you post on your own hodge podge website. Show some scholarly dissertation to support your claims, rather that your own biased opinions.
This brings to mind an epileptic fool in the 7th century who claimed to be a prophet of some imaginary god he conjured up, when people asked him for proof he pointed out to the book he invented and said " see it says plainly in the Koran that I am the last prophet"
The logical fallacy of circular reasoning is lost on Muslim apologists.
BTW, could you please show some koranic evidence of the pagan idol veneration on the black stone in the kaaba that Muslims do?
Islam is merely a continuation or a glorified version of the pagan religion of 7th century Arabia.
Hi again Osama,
Look I'm not trying to be controversial. I'm not into point scoring either, but the links you give certainly do not give any biblical justification for some of the (previously pagan) rituals included in Islam.
And of course Islamic sources describe the people surrounding Muhammad as farmers. Which would indicate the events didn't happen anywhere near Mecca (there is plenty of scholarly work on how questionable the story of early Islam is).
Uthman ordered the compilation of an 'approved' Koran (ordering any other records destroyed) and many suras are recorded as having been forgotten or mis-remembered.
Ibn Hisham even heavily edited Ibn Ishaq's history of Muhammad leaving out many 'unsavoury' details.
None of this really matters, people should believe what they can have faith in.
What does matter is when people persecute others for their beliefs. Muslims have been doing this since the inception of Islam-this is why Muslim dominated countries have such small non-Muslim populations.
Believe what you will. Just look after people who believe different things just as you would people who believe the same.
If you can persuade your fellow Muslims to do this as well then there will be no more 'Islamophobia' or disrespect of your religion.
In peace my friend.
@ those who mock Islam for the meteorite (the black stone) that was sent down from Heaven to determine the place of the Kaaba:
The more I engage Christians and read the Bible, the more I realize how empty your religion and attacks on Islam.
So the asteroid that was sent from Heaven is idol worship according to you, because it is today placed in one of the Kaaba's corners to determine the starting and ending point of the 7 Circumambulation (tawaaf) around the Kaaba, which I've already shown in the link above that it is fully supported in the Bible, but somehow the following isn't considered idol worship to you using your own SILLY AND EMPTY STANDARDS:
Genesis 28:18
When Jacob got up early the next morning, he took the rock that he had used for a pillow and stood it up for a place of worship. Then he poured olive oil on the rock to dedicate it to God,
And why is edging the stones here forbidden? Are they considered HOLY?
Exodus 20:25
25 If you ever build an altar for me out of stones, do not use any tools to chisel the stones, because that would make the altar unfit.
I will write an article very soon, insha'Allah, about this topic from the Bible to prove how silly and desperate and empty your attacks on Islam are.
Stay tunned,
Osama Abdallah
I will name my new article this:
"The Sacred Black Stones of the Bible"
By the way, Prophet Muhammad said:
"Demolishing the Kaaba (this includes the black stone is more preferable to Allah Almighty than shedding the blood of a Believer."
Neither the Kaaba nor the Black Stone are objects of worship, nor are they sacred. But in the Bible, it is BEYOND CLEAR that the stones used in the verses that I found were considered sacred by GOD Almighty.
I only shared two verses with you.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
@Davy Jones
Glad to hear that, I left before Badawi took office. However like you and I both mentioned, they were "trying" to push for these Islamic laws. Glad to hear it hasnt changed. And yes it was beautiful...
As for Osama....
Again I say NO! in Iraq, there is NO day off! there is NO decorations! and there is NO recognition that its Christmas... However Christians were allowed to celebrate Christmas on there own.
As for the "trinity" I dont know where you got that from my comment? if you fail to understand the trinity thats your problem (maybe Jew put a black spell on you and you cant comprehend things now... sounds familiar?) . Ps dont bring up pagan rituals when every practice in your religion is based on pagan practices.
Btw just out of curiosity, what was Muhammads prophecy? I cant for the life of me find one single thing he told us about Allah that we cant trace back to other religions.
Please give me 1 example.
Thanks
@Osama
I think the more people visit your site, the more you get paid that is why you always advertise your demented blog/site here. Don't worry cos you shall have the things of this world. My prayer is that for every muslims like you who have taken time to read the Bible come to the knowledge of Christ and get save from this eternal damnation your Quran and satan are putting you guys into.
You just need to show us where Abraham run back and forth in Mecca, throw stone, went for hajj, go on jira and so on in your Quran. Your Quran that failed to know who the first muslim was. Your Quran where we discover that you Allah do not honour his word but will always deceive the people into going astray. Brother take that veil away from your eyes by sincerely praying that God should show you the truth.
Hi Ossama!
Thank you and Merry Xmas to you too.
Not the secret santabut the known and official Santa.
I did ask you a question some months or a year ago but you did not ansswer me. I will try my luck again.
Can one put a fridge in the bottle or a bottle in the fridge?
Please do not say Ihave the name of your uncle as you did last time to run away from my question or give me link that do not correspond with the question.
Thank you.
Well done as usual brethren.
I haven't heard from brother Sam Shamoun for a while please pass my best wishes to him and his family.
MAY YAHWEH BLESS YOU ALL IN THE NAME OF YESHUA. AMEN
"Again I say NO! in Iraq, there is NO day off! there is NO decorations! and there is NO recognition that its Christmas... However Christians were allowed to celebrate Christmas on there own. "
You just contradicted yourself here. Yes, Christians are allowed to decorate their villages and places, and to celebrate not just Christmas, but even Easter, which is totally against Islam. But Christmas is accepted by Muslims because it is the birthdate of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our Messiah also.
Christians are allowed to take their holidays off. And believe it or not, the Jews' Holy Sabbath is also honored in the Muslim world for the Jews. Jews are never forced to work on the Sabbath, and their holidays and temples are protected.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Bro A Nasir, how you doing? Davy is right. Malaysia is the same as you remember it but there are voices coming from certain groups about making the country more Islamic and all...but I don't think that would happen. There are too many "moderate" Muslims in our midst to allow that. And yea, they enjoy the occasional drink too lol. And now there are campaigns going on telling people to be moderate and not go extreme. These "moderate" Muslims are many of them very smart people, which makes it a big wonder why they still don't see where the "extremism" is coming from. When a person is sick, it's no use treating the symptom. You have to treat the disease.
On the subject of the Trinity, I guess it's simple. We believe in the Trinity because it is the only to explain what the Bible tells us about Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit.
@ Osama
I dont quite understand the confusion here but I guess I have to copy and paste your comment so you know what Im taking about
"Celebrating the birth of one of Allah Almighty's Greatest Prophets and Messengers is something Islam has no issues with. Gee, the more holidays the better anyway! LOL. Bring in Mother Mary's birthday too. Doesn't she deserve some love too? :) hehehehhe."
you make sound like they have festive holidays where everyone takes off work and school and celebrates with Christians on the birth of the "Prophet" My response was no thats not true. Christians are allowed to celebrate but they dont have time off, they dont decorate there houses with lights etc. they celebrate in the privacy of their own homes.
As for my question I would still like an answer please. What was Muhammads prophecy? (something we cant relate back to any other religion)
@Dacritic
Like I said Ive heard reports but Im glad its still the same. Malaysia is a beautiful country with different cultures.
Osama said - Christmas is accepted by Muslims because it is the birthdate of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our Messiah also.
Dude..what are you saying here now ? Since when did Jesus Christ a Jew and human by birth and Divine by nature convert to islam ? As far as any muslims scholars, ulamas, imams and wannabes know that in order to be a muslim, the person must say the shahada - la ilaha ill allah wa muhammad rasul allah or do the five pillars of islam
Shahadah: Declaration of Faith
Salah: Prayer
Zakah: Charity, paying of alms and giving to the poor
Sawm: Fasting, obligatory during the Month of Ramadan
Hajj: Pilgrimage to Makkah
Please I beg you for the sake of common sense show me where did Jesus Christ the Jew and Son of God said this - la ilaha ill allah wa muhammad rasul allah
Christians are allowed to take their holidays off. And believe it or not, the Jews' Holy Sabbath is also honored in the Muslim world for the Jews. Jews are never forced to work on the Sabbath, and their holidays and temples are protected. ...
Please give me an example of this happening?
The Jews, their customs, traditions and culture are protected ??? Are you freakin high ? What have you been smokin ? Shit ????
I know this might require you to put your pea brain into hyper drive and do some research ( which is like kryptonite to some of you muslims ) but please provide for us here the datas to back your statements..please I beg you.
Thank you
Osama says "...the Kaaba, which I've already shown in the link above that it is fully supported in the Bible,.."
I asked you to show me ONE SURAH from the Koran, that "fully supports" your stone veneration, but of course you cannot so you try to use the Bible to do so. Unfortunately for you, it DOES NOT look so great for you. Muslims will stop at nothing short of absurd to make Islam relevant, but it fails by every standard in the Bible, just like your attempt to show Mohammed in the Bible.... He is not there.
You bring up Genesis 28:18 to support your claim. This is ludicrous, on many levels.
First, God DID NOT GIVE JACOB the stone, so it was clearly not "heaven sent", or holy by any means. This stone was merely one that Jacob used as a pillow, and then later anointed it as a pillar stone, when he named the place 'Bethel'.
Secondly, Jacob did not at any point in time after that go back and venerate the pillar stone, like Muslims shamelessly do the Kaaba stone.
Jacob did not assemble his brethren and set up a point where they could come and do dizzy spells around the rock.
Jacob knew full well that no lifeless object deserved any form of veneration or adoration as it would be in violation to YHWH Himself.
So you trying to justify Islam's idol veneration using irrelevant passages from the Bible is a pathetic attempt and does not serve the purpose that you were hoping it would. On the contrary it makes your claim empty, and you look desperate.
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Osama,
Now that we have your desperate attempt for the Bible's approval of your despicable pagan ritual negated, let us see what the Koran has to say about stone veneration.
Osama, Ironically, the Black Stone (Hajar al Aswad) is NEVER mentioned even once in the Koran, however this verse from it should truly contradict this despicable pagan ritual.
Read:
Koran [21.66] He said: What! do you then serve besides Allah what brings you not any BENEFIT AT ALL, NOR DOES IT HARM YOU?
BENEFIT OR HARM ..... hmmmmm sound familiar? ? ? Here let me jog your memory...
Bukhari, Muslim and Abu Daw'ud reported that 'Umar approached the Black Stone and kissed it.
Then he said: "I know that you are a mere stone THAT CAN NEITHER HARM NOR DO ANY BENEFIT. If I had not seen the Prophet (peace be upon him) kissing you, I would have never kissed you."
Notice Umar must have been well aware of the koranic verse about NOT HAVING ANY BENEFIT OR HARM, that is why he use that specific Koranic phrase. Even he knew something was not right when he was asked to venerate a lifeless object.
The quest is, why would Mohammed do such a thing as venerating something other than Allah.
Mohammed was an Idol worshipper from birth until the age of forty when he had his demonic visit. He probably did his pagan rituals on a daily basis, and could not let them go, even after he got rid of the idols in the Kaaba, he still wanted to keep the pagan rituals, and venerating the stone in the corner was one of these horrible practices.
What is immediately apparent upon seeing the relic is the obvious likeness to the female aspect. The stone and casing resembles nothing so much as a vagina or vulva.
"This stone is set in large solid silver mountings. The whole resembles, quite deliberately, for reasons which will emerge, ‘the vulva of the goddess’!
’A principal sacred object in Pagan Arabian religion was the stone...
Camphausen, in his article [3], reveals that the misogynic Muslim religion has its origins in the worship of goddess. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al’Lat, and it was her shrine, which has since continued with little change, as the Kaaba. The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Koreishe (Quraysh), who not only worshipped the goddess Q’re, but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622, Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result."
Osama, When you write your article, make sure you mention these facts, and also that Islam contradicts itself because the Koran condemns the practice of serving or venerating anything that does not "benefit or harm you", but Mohammed wanted to hang on to his pagan roots.
Your empty religion is filled with pagan rituals and devoid of the true God.
Davy Jones says "...Dude..what are you saying here now? Since when did Jesus Christ a Jew and human by birth and Divine by nature convert to islam ?..."
Davy,
Beware ! ! ! The phrase "Jesus is Muslim" in the current slogans that Muslims are putting out on billboards everywhere in the US. This is a trap Muslims are laying for Christians who know very little about Islam, and will be 'lured' into asking the same question you just did.
In reality the term "Muslim" loosely translated means one who submits his will to God, and they will point out that since Jesus (and all of the OT prophets) totally submitted their will to God, they are by their own admission "Muslims". It is taquiyya in action.
However to negate this claim, we have to demonstrate how and why the God of Islam IS NOT THE SAME GOD AS YHWH, THE TRUE GOD, OF THE BIBLE.
So in essence it is a play on semantics, that they use to entrap Christians into admitting that all the prophets were Muslims.
In response, using their own ploy against them, a Christian's response to Muslims should be that all the prophets and Jesus himself were indeed "Muslims"(one who submits his will to God) but not to Allah, the false deity of Islam, but rather to YHWH the one and only true God, of the Bible.
Allah is a sadistic despot, who calls for the decapitation and crucifixion of those who will not submit, while the God Jesus revealed to us is a loving and forgiving God who sent his son to die for the sins of the world.
Christians need to study about this demonic cult before the demon comes knocking at their door. The dawah minions are trained to seek out and prey on the ignorance of Christians.
Keep watch, and inform everyone you know about Islam's agenda.
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