Sunday, May 4, 2014

Indonesia: Vigilante Sharia Enforcement Group Gang-Rapes Woman Accused of Adultery, Covers Her in Sewage

Muslims in America and Europe keep telling me that the West needs Islam to help us deal with immorality. But the method of dealing with immorality in Muslim countries always seems to be worse than the immorality itself.
Jakarta Globe—Police in Aceh have arrested three people, including a 13-year-old boy, and are hunting five others for allegedly raping a woman they accused of having extramarital sex.

The three male suspects currently in custody, ranging in age from 28 to 13 years, were arrested over the weekend for the alleged rape that occurred in the early hours of Thursday in the eastern Aceh town of Langsa, police said.

Adj. Sr. Comr. Hariadi, the chief of police in Langsa, said the incident began late on Wednesday, when the suspects, part of a group of eight males, raided the home of the 25-year-old woman and allegedly caught her about to have sex with a 40-year-old married man.

“The perpetrators tied up the woman’s companion and took the woman into another room, where they raped her,” he told the Jakarta Globe on Sunday.

He said police had already identified the five other suspects and appealed to their families to turn them in.

Extramarital sex is prohibited in Aceh, which exercises a limited form of Shariah, or Islamic law, and vigilante raids against suspected violators, though illegal, are common and even condoned by the local clergy and authorities.

The province’s Shariah police, or Wilayatul Hisbah, generally handle such cases, and officials confirmed that the couple in the Langsa raid was brought in for questioning on the grounds of “tarnishing the village’s reputation” – after the woman had been raped and her companion beaten up.

“Before they turned over the couple to the authorities, the men who caught them also doused them in sewage,” Ibrahim Latif, the head of the Shariah office in Langsa, told the Globe.

He said the men had not told the Shariah officers about raping the woman, with officers only finding out during their interrogation of the victim.

“The men beat up [the companion] before tying him up. They also forced the woman to perform oral sex on them and groped her,” Ibrahim said. “We later confirmed through tests that the woman had been raped by the eight men.”

He said his office was working closely with the police to arrest the vigilante mob.

This is not the first case in Aceh of a rape being committed against a woman accused of inappropriate conduct with an unrelated male.

A 20-year-old university student was raped by three Shariah police officers in Langsa in January 2010 after being caught riding on a motorcycle with her boyfriend.

The town’s Shariah police chief, Syahril, was subsequently fired and two of the perpetrators were later sentenced to eight years in prison each. The third perpetrator was never caught. (Source)


Baron Eddie said...

Have anyone seen Mohamed?

young steve said...

Well the rapists are in trouble for adultery too then, because in committing the crime of rape they are themselves automatically guilty of committing fornication and adultery. That's how dumb the Islamic ideology is.

Carlos said...

@Baron Eddie

Sorry my brother In Christ, I think most of us(including you my brother) haven't been to and won't ever be in Hell.

Mohamed said...

Notice how much you have to go out of your way to try to show how much of a violent threat Western Muslims are to Western civilisation.

What do Indonesian gang rapists have to do with American/Western Muslims? You are reduced to subway sandwiches and go-karts regulations to paint Western Muslims as a grave threat when it comes to the West but it's not enough is it? Oh no. We must show gang bangers from far away lands to depict our neighbours as a threat.

Also, conveniently failed to mention that the justice system is dealing with them over there, just like you conveniently failed to mention that United Sikhs were also opposed to go-karts regulations in the US (United Sikhs' war on men?) and that the Tunisian assembly were not dissenting against the quotation of the Prophet's hadith, but the comments that the politician made following it and the portrayal of his views as the correct form of Islam (blatantly obvious in the video). But other than that, you're doing a good job.

Mohamed said...

@ Baron Eddie

I'm here Baron :) Let's face it, this website is mostly preaching to the choir as most readers here are Christians with anti-Islam attitudes- some more extreme than others- so I hope you don't mind me popping in and out from time to time to put a different perspective and a little balance to the discussion.

The fact of the matter is, the idea that 2 million American Muslims are somehow a grave threat to America, a nation of over 300 million non-muslims is beyond fantastical.

Barack "Hussain" Obama- regularly accused by conspiratorial Christians as a 'Shariah-sympathiser' (whatever that means?)- was an ardent Church-goer who believes Jesus Christ is the Lord and has not only engaged and killed numerous muslims in Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, Afhanistan (including militants), pretty much amended the constitution by himself to kill a US citizen and his son in Yemen without due process, put Bin Laden's head on a plate, kept Gitmo's torture chambers open for those suspected of terrorism but also ramped up funding for anti-terrorism surveillance and the FBI who use spies to monitor the activity of American Muslims, you'd think Obama would be David Wood's wet dream wouldn't you?

But oh no. No, no, no, no, no. According to David Wood, Obama condemned Qur'an burning by a pastor and the US military burned Bibles in Pakistan, this obviously means Muslims are a threat in America (!) Sharia is clearly taking over the constitution (!) and Obama is terrorist sympathiser(!) And the conspiratorial Christians just gobbles it up.

I hope you can see now why I am here from time to time Baron.

goethechosemercy said...

Every profession of a respect for human dignity by the Ummah is a lie.

David Wood said...

Mohamed said: "Notice how much you have to go out of your way to try to show how much of a violent threat Western Muslims are to Western civilisation."

Mohamed, you need to stop reading the comments of Christians with an Islamic mindset. You think that, whenever we're criticizing some practice, we're trying to stir up violence against the local Muslim community. But this is sheer nonsense.

When I point out that vigilante Sharia enforcement groups are gang-raping women in Indonesia, it's because the international community needs to join together in condemning such practices, because Muslim governments don't seem to take action on such matters unless there's potential embarrassment for their country.

So when I talk about how women are being treated in Indonesia, it's because women in Indonesia should be treated better. I know you don't understand how Christians can actually care about someone from a different religion, but we do.

Carlos said...

It's hard to 'educate' the fanatic & deluded muslims in realizing that unlike islam(as we can see it all in almost all islamic countries), christians is not a political nor even military movement.

Nowadays majority of christians have no desire to create some sort of Sharia version of christianity,this is totally absurd!

Majority of true "fundamentalist" are waiting for the coming of the King and eager to be picked up to the sky leaving this world behind.

Military act of U.S is based on state policy and hardly to do with religion despite whatever religion the authorities believe in(FYI many who in charge are likely to be described as secular)

The policy of Thailand government in engaging ISLAMIC terrorist also has nothing to do with BUDHIST religion.

Analyzing the history, Islam since its beginning has been a political movement or TOOL to gain power using religion.

Muhamad used it as "Tool" to gain power, his companions also used it(power grab of Abu Bakar against Ali) and Islam has created many havoc among muslims themselves since then.

Even if muslims were controlling the world still there would not ever be peace on earth cause muslims would bite each other' head off just to gain power.

Baron Eddie said...

to Mohamed
I really think that you don't see the picture clearly.
Maybe because you are born in the West and you have not lived in a society under Islam.

The events that Mr. Wood post is not and I repeat is not a random acts here and there
around the world. It is all connected.

Look for example those girls kidnapped in Nigeria
Where did those Boko Haram got this idea of abducting, raping, selling came from.

The prophet of Islam did that and set the standard for others to follow.

The bottom line is Islam does teach that non-Muslim are worst creatures.
Muslims should have enmity and hatred (الولاء و البراء) toward Christians, Jews etc..
... don't be friend to them .... etc .....

All these are happening in all Islamic countries while in the West Muslims use
Taqqiya and smile in our faces while in their hearts have enmity and hatred (الولاء و البراء )

Now correct me if I am wrong in what I said.

Maybe you are not following the above and that is because you are a good person.
But you can not be a Muslim if you don't follow the above teachings ...

Check Al Walaa wa Al baraa

John said...

@Mohamed: "so I hope you don't mind me popping in and out from time to time to put a different perspective and a little balance to the discussion"

I'm sure, everyone, Christian, Muslims and others all will agree that your point of view is welcome here. However I also think that everyone is annoyed at you for running away without engaging. On another post you responded to Baron Eddie giving your reasons why you post: you think this is a hate site, inciting violence, but when people explain their reasons for providing the site and posting on it, you're not seen for dust.

Aren't you ever worried or concerned or outraged when you hear of repression of, or attacks on Muslims in other countries, or your own country?, aren't you ever concerned about the reasons that give rise to it? If you are, then why can't you understand and respect people of other faiths, or none expressing their concern/ outrage re attacks and repression by some Muslims abroad and attacks and repression perpetrated by some Muslims in the US and the apparent common link between both - their Islamic ideology?

Be so kind as to engage and respond to the points made by me and other posters.

Extremista Moderado said...

Mohamed said...
"You are reduced to subway sandwiches and go-karts regulations to paint Western Muslims as a grave threat when it comes to the West"

What we have here is a textbook example of a strawman fallacy, which is when someone purposely misrepresents the original argument.

" this website is mostly preaching to the choir as most readers here are Christians with anti-Islam attitudes"

Oh, the islamophobia! The christian islamophobia!

"I hope you can see now why I am here from time to time"

Yeah, damage control and taqiyya.

Mohamed said...

@ Baron Eddie

I might be born in the West but I do know my religion haha :D

You might think that these violent acts brought to the West by Muslims from abroad can be sanctioned by the Qur'an but you couldn't be more wrong mate. Western Muslims and western Islam are not and never will be a threat to Western civilisation. In fact, treachery and treason against people whom Muslims hold a covenant with (a visa/citizenship is a covenant to a nation)is forbidden in the strictest terms in the Qur'an. We are a part of the West and the Westerners are our people, the solemn promise Muslims make by entering/living in the West is that they will affirm and abide by the constitution/laws of the land. Treason is strictly forbidden:

ولا تكن للخائنين خصيما
"Do not be an advocate for the treacherous" (4/105)

فبما نقضهم ميثاقهم لعناهم
"Because of their breaking of the covenant, We cursed them" (5/13)

وأن الله لا يهدي كيد الخائنين
"God does not guide the plan of the treacherous" (12/52)

Committing treachery (i.e. agreeing to something and breaking the covenant is a major sin which needs repentance):

علم الله أنكم كنتم تختانون أنفسكم فتاب عليكم
"God knows that you used to be treacherous to yourselves so He accepted your repentance" (2/187)

إن الله لا يحب من كان خوانا أثيما
"Indeed, God does not love one who is a treasonous sinner." (4/107)

إن الله لا يحب كل خوان كفور
"Indeed, God does not love all those who are treacherous and ungrateful" (22/38)

Even Prophets cannot save a treacherous person who betrays and they could go to the Fire of Hell:

كانتا تحت عبدين من عبادنا صالحين فخانتاهما فلم يغنيا عنهما من الله شيئا وقيل ادخلا النار مع الداخلين
"They were under our two righteous servants but they betrayed them so those Prophets could not help them from God at all and it was said 'Enter the fire with those who enter'" (66/10)

The prohibition of breaking a treaty/covenant with a group of people or a nation is so strong, that if a Muslim is being tortured and killed because of his religion by another group, it is incumbent to help the tortured Muslim UNLESS there is a covenant between those who are torturing and the Muslims who wanted to help:

وإن استنصروكم في الدين فعليكم النصر إلا على قوم بينكم وبينهم ميثاق

If they seek help from you on account of the religion, then you must help except against a people with whom you have a treaty with (8/72)

Therefore, because of the previously quoted verse, it is explicitly forbidden for any Muslim in America/UK to help another Muslim abroad against American/British forces because their treaty and covenant lies with the Brits/Americans.

That is why the Prophet could not help Abu Jandal who was being tortured by the pagans when he was signing the treaty of Hudaybiya (Bukhari 891)

In fact, so sinful is the crime of treachery, that the category of unbelievers that are the worst of creatures are who?

إن شر الدواب عند الله الذين كفروا فهم لا يؤمنون
الذين عاهدت منهم ثم ينقضون عهدهم في كل مرة وهم لا يتقون
"The worst creatures in the sight of God are those who have disbelieved and they will not believe, the ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time and they do not fear God" (8/55-56)

Mohamed said...

As for not being friends with Christians and Jews, the ones who we are not allowed to befriend are:
إنما ينهاكم الله عن الذين قاتلوكم في الدين وأخرجوكم من دياركم وظاهروا على إخراجكم أن تولوهم ومن يتولهم فأولئك هم الظالمون
"God only prohibits you from those who fight you because of your religion and expel you out of your home and help to expel you out of your home that you befriend them. Whoever befriends them, they are the transgressors". (60/9)

In fact, since Muslim men are allowed to marry Christians and Jews, let alone befriend them, so obviously we are allowed to love Christians and Jews:

اليوم أحل لكم الطيبات وطعام الذين أوتوا الكتاب حل لكم وطعامكم حل لهم والمحصنات من المؤمنات والمحصنات من الذين أوتوا الكتاب من قبلكم
"Today lawful for you...are righteous believing women and righteous women from the people given the Scripture before you" (5/5)

And we know by unanimous agreement according to Qur'an and hadith that Muhammad loved his uncle Abu Talib who was a pagan, God revealed this verse concerning Abu Talib:

إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء
"Indeed (O Muhammad) you do not guide whom you love, but God guides whom He wills." (28/56)

Hope that helps mate :)

Steven Hermansyah said...

@mohamed, you douche, i come from indonesia and i know how islam is such a big hypocrisy in indonesia. and moreover, it constantly demands special treatments, attention, and understanding from everyone, everywhere, without ever even slightly try to show any of the above. in ramadhan muslims force restaurant to close during the day, and night clubs to close during the month, without regarding that the employees of those establishments also need to earn money! in an area called tangerang a few years ago a woman was arrested for working night shift, they accused her for being a prostitute. in another case they arrested a man for openly declaring atheism. sometimes they raid churches because they believe that muslims youths are being converted into christianity in those churches. the victims are not only christians but also minority islamic denominations such as shias and ahmadias. they even forced an entire village out of their homes for simply being shias in a sunni majority area! so, suck up your complains! islam needs to be criticized and mocked until it learns to respect others!!!!

Steven Hermansyah said...

@mohamad, here is an update about that poor woman in aceh, beside being raped by 8 men she will also face the punishment of lashing. here is an indonesian news which you could translate via google or whatever:

John 8:24 said...

Mohamad said: "What do Indonesian gang rapists have to do with American/Western Muslims?"

Mohamad you seem to think that you are smart but from your posts it looks like you are just another idiot. What part of "Muslims in America and Europe keep telling me that the West needs Islam to help us deal with immorality. But the method of dealing with immorality in Muslim countries always seems to be worse than the immorality itself." don't you understand?

And what the heck do you mean by saying: "Also, conveniently failed to mention that the justice system is dealing with them over there.."? Have you read the article which talks about how the nicely the Islamic justice system is acting out in Indonesia? Isn't that the point of David's post in the first place? Isn't that just dumb of you?

Please take off your colored glasses and STOP projecting your bias on David and accusing him of intending to stir up violence against Muslims and the rest of the nonsense you come up with. He had time and again made that clear the he doesn't hate Muslims and for jerks like you he already put up a FAQ page.

Why don't you read it and stop bothering everyone with your baseless accusations. And instead, if you show up here, please stick around and defend Islam and your prophet and not run away like other Muslims.

Baron Eddie said...

My comment was clear ... All over the world and not only in the West!

What about Shiaa Muslims? Can you live with them in Peace?

What about Ahmadia?

I read and hear the news about Sunni Muslim attaching Shiaa and closing their stores in Australia and other countries!

Please, be serious and don't cut Ayat from here and there and make your own story!

I know you are not serious when you told me that your loyalty to the constitution and to Sharia Al Aslamyia!

Islam is like a ship full of holes and it is sinking.

please, Watch for your life.

I will pray for you and for all Muslims.

Joe Bradley said...

Mohamed asks, "What do Indonesian gang rapists have to do with American/Western Muslims?"

They all read from the same books.

Dacritic said...

Check this out people.

Obviously such a news would invite a lot of comments on that page. Someone remarked and said "everyone is going crazy now".

No. On the contrary. We have never been more clear. Many people, especially those who want to be politically correct, are left (willingly or otherwise) in the dark about Islam. Because of Answering Muslims and Answering Islam, we have been enlightened.

aaron said...

regarding surah 60:9 is way offtopic

its quite clear in 5:51

"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."

and slightly later on later on surah 5:55

"Your ally is none but Allah and [therefore] His Messenger and those who have believed - those who establish prayer and give zakah, and they bow [in worship]."

that puts the whole not being friends in context hence you can;t be a friend with jews or christian.

goethechosemercy said...

There are no Western Muslims.
The very phrase, Western Muslim is a contradiction in terms.

goethechosemercy said...

You have submitted to the Ummah.
Your only authority is Islam.
Your only nation is Islam.
Your only culture is Islam.
You have no philosophy.
You have despised science.
And above all, you have rejected reason and free will.
You have submitted.
You are a slave to your desert demon.
And you curse God five times a day.

Extremista Moderado said...

Whoa, what a big, steamy pile of taqiyya our friend Mohamed let us with.

For starters, islam is NOT just the quran. It's the quran, the sunnah and the ahadith. Quran is the word of allah, sunnah is the example of muhammad and ahadith are the actions and saying of muhammad. And given the difference in size and content between the quran and sunnah + ahadith, islam is about 80-90% muhammad and 10-20% allah. So why Mohamed sticks to the quran alone is beyond me. If he really ignores the sunnah and the hadith then he is, according to islamic orthodoxy, an apostate, since the quran orders mosleems to obey and follow the example of muhammad.

Secondly, there's a lot of mining on his quotes. From the top of my head I know that 5:13 is NOT about "forbidding treason" (contextualizing with 5:12 it's about anti-semitism and cursing the jews) and 2:187 talks about excusing mosleems who had sex with women during fasting. Like I said, that's from the top of my head, but I wouldn't be surprised of the other partial quotes were also equally misleading.

Regarding the breaking of treaties, muhammad broke the treaty of hudaybiya when he refused to send back a girl who ran to the mosleems, and he did so because of divine revelations who still can be found in the quran. Also, there's a hadith talking about making a vow and then being able to take a better vow then the first vow is considered broken.

As for being friends with jews and christians, there are several passages in the quran mandating against it, including on surah 9, the final major chapter of the quran. Pair that with the concept of abrogation, and it's clear that good mosleems can't take jews or christians for friends, unless they need them for some reason. Also, notice how Mohamed said mosleem men are allowed to marry christian and jewish women (and let's not pretend that it's the same as saying to love all jews and christians, like he falsely tries to imply). Are christian and jewish man allowed to marry mosleem women without converting to islam first? Because if so, then what to make of all those mosleems who killed their daughters because they were dating non-mosleems? How did they get the wrong idea that their daughters couldn't date outside their faith?

young steve said...

Mohamed, you say,

"In fact, since Muslim men are allowed to marry Christians and Jews, let alone befriend them, so obviously we are allowed to love Christians and Jews:"

This is a deceitful argument (and double standard) since Christians and Jews are not allowed to marry Muslim women.

Mohamed, why are Christians or non-Muslims forbidden to marry Muslim women, and yet a Muslim man is allowed to marry a non-Muslim woman?

Mohamed, if Islam is the religion of truth, then why do you keep trying to deceive us?