Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Muslim Judges in Lebanon Call Rape a "Marital Right"

When critics of Islam point out that Muhammad allowed his followers to rape their female captives, Muslims often respond by claiming that rape is forbidden in Islam. But this is simply a matter of equivocation. Westerners generally define rape as "having sex with a woman against her will." In Islam, however, rape is defined as "forcing yourself on a woman you have no right to have sex with." Given the Islamic concept of rape, it is impossible for a man to rape his female captives, his slave-girls, or his wives, for he has a "right" to have sex with them, and they have no right to refuse. Hence, what we call "rape," a Muslim scholar would call a "marital right."


Beirut, Lebanon (CNN) -- Lebanese women are taking to the streets to demand that the government takes domestic violence seriously, by introducing laws to protect women from abusive partners.

Nadine Mouwad, a founder of feminist collective Nasawiya, says the prevalence of unveiled, glamorous women in Beirut can create the impression that Lebanon is more liberated from patriarchal cultural attitudes than neighboring countries.

But that's merely an illusion, she says.

"The problem is that we are sold a lot of fake freedoms that raise Lebanese women under the impression that they have freedom to go anywhere, freedom to dress the way they want to," she said.

For the past year and a half, Mouwad and fellow feminist activists have been demanding that politicians ignore the objections of Muslim religious authorities and pass a stalled law protecting women from domestic violence.

A draft version of the Law to Protect Women from Family Violence was approved by Lebanon's Cabinet in 2010, but has since become bogged down in parliament, mainly due to the objections of Sunni and Shia authorities.

The initial version of the bill was drafted to criminalize physical and sexual abuse, so-called "honor crimes" and marital rape, create specially-trained domestic violence response units within the police, and provide the legal framework for restraining orders to be issued against abusers.

But Lebanon's religious courts -- the judicial authorities presiding over each of the country's faith communities, with jurisdiction over matters of "personal status," including marriage problems -- have criticized the proposed law as an attempt to erode their authority.

Dar al-Fatwa, Lebanon's top Sunni authority, and the Higher Shi'a Islamic Council both said that they opposed the draft on the basis that Sharia law protected the status of women, and should remain the basis for governing legal issues related to Muslim families.

Domestic violence cases in Lebanon are typically heard in the religious courts, which often respond with rulings focused on preserving the family unit, rather protecting women from violence.

It's a response that abused women are usually met with from police as well, says Lebanese lawyer Amer Badreddine.

"They are told to solve the problem amicably, to keep it a family issue and not cause embarrassment to themselves by bringing it to the police," said Badreddine, who specializes in domestic violence cases.

He said the law also failed to recognize marital rape as a crime -- a position that some Muslim judges argue should be upheld.

Criminalizing marital rape "could lead to the imprisonment of the man," Sheik Ahmad Al-Kurdi, a judge in the Sunni religious court, told CNN, "where in reality he is exercising the least of his marital rights." (Continue Reading.)

***UPDATE*** Osama Abdallah couldn't pass up the opportunity to blame women for rape, so he commented:

"It's simple. Don't look delicious in the eyes of your husband, and he won't rape you :). Throw the dior perfumes out."

30 comments:

Yuck Fslam said...

Hard to take muslim women seriously.

Beside the fact that the rape is legalized in koran, there are so many paragraphs calling for abuse of non-muslims than I cannot find sympathy for a muslim women asking for their rights, while happily accepting the other teachings (i.e. that even a muslim woman is superior to non-muslims)

And if you want to be serious about countering the Neo-Nazis muslims, do not use google or youtube - just had my YT account banned because I do not use a "real name".

Osama Abdallah said...

It's simple. Don't look delicious in the eyes of your husband, and he won't rape you :). Throw the dior perfumes out.

Osama Abdallah said...

Don't worry David Wood. Too many of your women don't get any sex from their hubbies, because they're dried up from the alcohol and/or dope that they take on weekly and daily basis.

Our women enjoy some really turned on desert husbands who don't drink alcohol. It's the diet and the atmosphere.

Foolster41 said...

@Osama: What a disgusting thing to say! This reazlly is heart breaking that you continue this path. It's already quite clear you are not a peaceful "moderate" Muslim (though you insist Islam is peaceful!). You say hateful things about Christians, personally attack and smear people who disagree with you (for which you still have not apologized), spew hatred and blame for Muslim actions on Jews and try to justify rape!

Deleting said...

I thought Osama wasn't allowed to post again.

Nobody but everybody said...

@Osama the terrorist

If you generalize like "Don't worry David Wood. Too many of your women don't get any sex from their hubbies, because they're dried up from the alcohol and/or dope that they take on weekly and daily basis." then I too can say all Moslems are paedophiles waiting to rape women even infants, girls, blow up people for nothing and still claim to be pissfull followeres of the pissfull war mongering paedophile Mohammed. How's that for a generalization ??

David Wood said...

Deleting said: "I thought Osama wasn't allowed to post again."

Sometimes I just can't help myself.

cheryl_maree said...

Osama Abdallah said...
It's simple. Don't look delicious in the eyes of your husband, and he won't rape you :). Throw the dior perfumes out.
Then your husband will entice a nice girl wearing the Dior perfume, and later when his nice hijab wearing muslim wife catches him cheating, its all ok because it gets swept under the rug because no one will talk about it!

Joe Bradley said...

And what of YOUR women Osama? You and your Muslim colleagues have them so wrapped up in Burqas and chastity belts that, by the time you FINALLY unwrap them, your so exhausted that you are already asleep and not to be disturbed.

Muslim violence is caused by sexual frustration.

Caricature said...

Osama,

Seriously shut up already. You're about as dumb as a rock. You're a great example of a mind destroyed by Islam.

Koala Bear said...

I was raped by my muslim ex and by his reaction he did not give a toss about it. No other men I know have or would even rape women.

@Osama - well done. You have gone a long time before showing your true colours. Your photo speaks volumes.

Deleting said...

David said,
Sometimes I just can't help myself.
So....what good does it do to let his posts go through then? A ban is a ban, isn't it?
And judging the comments in response to him, it seems he still offended people. Osama hasn't changed.

aaron said...

@OSama
so according to you your men are so pathetic they can;t control themselves.

Samatar Mohamed said...

@Osama Abdullah

"It's simple. Don't look delicious in the eyes of your husband, and he won't rape you :). Throw the dior perfumes out."

I'm very disappointed in you Osama. Do you really think this is some sort of joke. Is that what you would tell a relative of your if she was raped by someone. I'm starting to think you might need to see a mental health specialist.

apran said...

Osama Abdallah should not be banned from posting here, thus we can see the briliance of Islam and Osama too.

Btw, if the wives don't look delicious, then their husbands can beat them because the wives do not serve their husbands well, correct?

Caricature said...

Samatar,

it's good to see that you realize that some muslims are pigs.

But I'm curious. Why do you think Osama behaves that way?

Joe Bradley said...

If Muslim men can't control their baser instincts, they should be castrated.

bob said...

For men to blame women for what is actually lurking in their own weak, sinful, corrupted natures is hypocricy...

"Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocricy and lawlessness." Matthew 23:28

...and demonstrates the ungodly nature of the Koran's teachings and how far short of the glory of God its proponents fall.

If the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1Peter 4:18

Caricature said...

Bob thanks again for the great verses. keep on edifying us.

Osama is as wretched as they come. Sadly Osama has been duped by Islam and now nothing but utter foolishness comes out of his mouth.

Proverbs 18: 6-7 rightly says:

A fool’s lips bring strife,
And his mouth calls for blows.
A fool’s mouth is his ruin,
And his lips are the snare of his soul.

Praise YHWH for his word!!!

Soldier Of Christ said...

Muslim Judges Not surprising ! They're simply following their god given right to "plow into their field". Your
"women is a tillage so enter your tillage whenever you like and as you wish" [Surah 2:223]. They can't possibly forbid what Allah has made completely lawful !

BTW Lebanon was meant to be a Christian state, a kind of safe haven for the Christians. Things didn't go as planned...

Foolster41 said...

@Samatar: Why are you disappointed in him? Do you mean this to say, you think his is not his normal behavior? (Though maybe you just mean this as an expression of general disgust.) He has quite frequently spread Jew hatred (mostly crazy anti-semetic conspiracy theories where he blames Jews for Muslim actions (not just 9/11) and lies and slanders Christians (both in general by falsely attacking their beliefs, and personally against indivisuals). Osama has no shame, honesty or honor.

Samatar Mohamed said...

@caricature

I think he says these things to gain attention. That's my best guess.

Osama Abdallah said...

@Dear brother Samatar. Attention?? No akhi. It's more like feeling bored. I also sometimes put stupidity where it belongs. Like this joke about marital rape. A new concept by men-hating feminists that only belongs in the garbage. Along with its supporters. There is no marital rape. There marital abuse, and even torture. But no rape could ever occur by the husband to his wife. This is a conspiracy that is designed to further fight GOD Almighty. Only the fools take the bait.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Deleting said...

@samatar
Think of it this way, leave Islam and you'll never again have to apologize for Osama Abdallah!
You still have to cope with being aggravated with him but its still less to deal with, no?
Lol. :)

Foolster41 said...

". But no rape could ever occur by the husband to his wife. This is a conspiracy that is designed to further fight GOD Almighty"
So it's not possible for a man to rape his wife? I agree with Saamatar, you need mental help.

Search 4 Truth said...

@ Samatar

He's correct according to Islamic doctrine there is no such thing as marital rape. Now in the real world where justice and common sense prevails there is such a thing as marital rape. Because I wife is still an individual in the sense that they can say no to something they do not want to partake in.


Bukhari (62:81) - "The Prophet said: "'The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).'"

Question: Is it permissible for a man to force his wife or slave to have intercourse if she refuses?.
Answer: Praise be to Allaah.
The woman does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her, so long as that will not harm her or keep her from doing an obligatory duty.
Al-Bukhaari (3237) and Muslim (1436) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.”
If she refuses with no excuse, she is disobeying and is being defiant (nushooz), and he is no longer obliged to spend on her and clothe her.
The husband should admonish her and remind her of the punishment of Allaah, and forsake her in her bed. He also has the right to hit her, in a manner that does not cause injury. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great”
[al-Nisa’ 4:34]
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked what a husband should do if his wife refuses him when he asks for intimacy.
He replied:
It is not permissible for her to rebel against him or to withhold herself from him, rather if she refuses him and persists in doing so, he may hit her in a manner that does not cause injury, and she is not entitled to spending or a share of his time [in the case of plural marriage].” Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/279.

And he was asked about a man who has a wife who is rebellious and refuses intimacy – does she forfeit the right to maintenance and clothing, and what should she do?
He replied:
She forfeits her right to maintenance and clothing if she does not let him be intimate with her. He has the right to hit her if she persists in being defiant. It is not permissible for her to refuse intimacy if he asks for that, rather she is disobeying Allaah and His Messenger (by refusing). In al-Saheeh it says: “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, the One Who is in heaven will be angry with her until morning comes.”
From Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/278. The hadeeth was narrated by Muslim, 1736.
So the wife should be admonished first, and warned against defiance (nushooz) and of the anger of Allaah and the curse of the angels. If she does not respond, then the husband should forsake her in her bed, and if she does not respond to that, then he may hit her in a manner that does not cause injury. If none of these steps are effective, then he may stop spending on her maintenance and clothing, and he has the right to divorce her or to allow her to separate from him by khula’ in return for some financial settlement, such as giving up the mahr.
Similarly a slave woman does not have the right to refuse her master’s requests unless she has a valid excuse. If she does that she is being disobedient and he has the right to discipline her in whatever manner he thinks is appropriate and is allowed in sharee’ah.
And Allaah knows best.
Husband forcing his wife to have intercourse
Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597

Samatar I pray one day you will wake from the nightmare of Islam!

Caricature said...

Osama,

I'm happy that your god is imaginary. Your conception of god is reprehensible. The one true God, that is the God of the bible, says to love your wife. That includes consent on both sides regarding sexual contact. Raping your wife is a detestable act. The problem is you won't learn this from the word of Satan ie the koran.

SGM said...

@ Samatar,
Search 4 Truth has explained how the wife (or a slave girl) has to respond to her husband (or master) in regards to their sexual relationship. You are pretty much aware of the Islamic teaching that there is no respect for the wife or the slave girl when it comes to sexual relationship. We know that even the angles curse the wife all night long if she refuses to be intimate with her husband without a valid reason.

I want you to compare this with the teaching of the Bible. We read in Ephesians 5:28 “So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.” If we go back couple of verses we read in verse 25, “25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it.” We are told that we ought to love our wives as our own body. The example we are given is of Jesus Christ our Lord who loved the church so much that He gave his life for it. Nowhere in the Bible are we told to beat our wife, to admonish her, not to spend on her/clothes and that the angles curse the wife if she refuses to be intimate with her husband. I don’t read anywhere where even the angles are cursing someone except in Islamic teaching. And who are they cursing? Not the unbelievers, not the ones who curse Allah or his prophet Mohammad, but the wives.

Now Osama Abdallah blames the men-hating feminists. Samatar, think about it, who are these feminists, “the moslem women of Lebanon” who are taking it to the streets. And this goes on in all moslem countries. Now I am not saying the wife abuse does not happen in the West, what I am saying is that the Bible does not allow it. Whereas Islam does. Therefore, Islam cannot be the true religion of THE true and Living God. I know you believe that Bible is corrupted. For a moment let’s assume you are right (which is not true). How can the corrupted word be much superior then the inspired word of Allah?

I hope that one day God would open your eyes and that you start serving the true and the living God and His son the savior of the world Lord Jesus Christ, to whom be all honor and glory and praise.

1389 said...

@Caricature,

Osama worships Satan and not the God that we worship. Satan is not imaginary.

Selecta Mark said...

Oxford exploitation trial: Man 'prepared girl for gang rape'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-21578312

They are only following the example of their "prophet"!