Sunday, May 20, 2012

Qur'an in Context 1: "Fight Those Who Do Not Believe" (Surah 9:29)



Here are the Qur'an, Hadith, and Tafsir passage cited in the video:

Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other.

Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them.

Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.

Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost.

Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.

Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.”

Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.”

Qur’an 6:114—Shall I seek for a judge other than Allah, when He it is Who has sent down to you the Book fully explained?

Qur’an 11:1—This is a Book, whose verses have been made firm and free from imperfection and then they have been expounded in detail.

Qur’an 12:1—These are verses of the clear Book.

Qur’an 16:89—And We have sent down to thee the Book explaining all things ...

Qur’an 27:1—These are verses of the Qur'an—a book that makes (things) clear.

Qur’an 41:3—A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail ...

Qur’an 57:9—He it is who sends down clear communications upon His servant, that he may bring you forth from utter darkness into light.

Ibn Kathir, The Battles of the Prophet, pp. 183-4—Allah, Most High, ordered the believers to prohibit the disbelievers from entering or coming near the sacred Mosque. On that, Quraish thought that this would reduce their profits from trade. Therefore, Allah, Most High, compensated them and ordered them to fight the people of the Book until they embrace Islam or pay the Jizyah. Allah says, “O ye who believe! Truly the pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Therefore, the Messenger of Allah decided to fight the Romans in order to call them to Islam.

Tafsir Ibn Kathir (on Qur’an 9:30)—Fighting the Jews and Christians is legislated because they are idolaters and disbelievers. Allah the Exalted encourages the believers to fight the polytheists, disbelieving Jews and Christians, who uttered this terrible statement and utter lies against Allah, the Exalted. As for the Jews, they claimed that Uzayr was the son of God, Allah is free of what they attribute to Him. As for the misguidance of Christians over Isa, it is obvious.

Qur'an 2:106—“Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?”

Sahih al-Bukhari 4364—The last complete Surah which was revealed (to the Prophet) was Bara’a ...

46 comments:

illuzillu said...

Excellent job David!
You should have told the Shan e nuzul of verses.
It would have been better.

Grant Kelly said...

Note to Samatar, before you come up trying to post zaatari or zawadi links, I already took the time to rebut your last quotation of these links:

http://www.answeringabraham.com/2012/01/quran-929-and-zaatari-and-samatar.html (Part I)

http://www.answeringabraham.com/2012/02/re-examining-historical-context-of.html (Part II)

Both of these links together establish that this was not a retaliatory or defensive war. This is a purely offensive war. So please do a better job than your peers, and actually provide empirical evidence these wars were completely defensive. Or just admit the truth. Your prophet required an income, and he subjugated the Christians who gave him one. Not that hard is it?

Derek Adams
www.AnsweringAbraham.com

Kangaroo said...

@Derek Adams

Try to engage in a decent conversation with Bassam Zawadi in the MDI website and don't run away.

Fyi, your site is copy and paste from answeringislam, complete waste of time to visit..

Zack_Tiang said...

Look forward to watching the video (as it loads).

And good response, Kangaroo. You totally refuted and made moot Derek Adam's articles. Very good job at refuting him.

Derek Adams said...

Kangaroo actually I happen to know the Answering-Islam.org website pretty well. They have offered no rebuttal to Zaatari's link on this.

On the other hand, I specifically go through the historical context leading up to 9.29 and show how Mohammed started the invasion. From the time he sent his letter, to the battle of Mauta to the battle of Tabuk.

As for your MDI website, Williams, Abduallah, Zaatari have all been challenged and refuted on my blog and even in the comment section on their own site. They have no response.

Zawadi is welcome to rebut any claim I make with solid evidence proving my interpretation of 9.29 is non-Islamic.

Kangaroo here is some advice though. Before you comment on my blog actually try reading it. You would have seen I have addressed all your heroes and seen that Answering-Islam.org does not respond to Zaatari on this, so you just made a complete jack ass out of your self.

Kangaroo you are like a noisy house pet, offer something of substance.

Derek Adams
www.AnsweringAbraham.com

aaron said...

@Kangaroo
wow you have been silent for a long time. did you not even if derek did copy and paste. Did you not just link us to Osama's site or are you saying its alright for you to use other peoples arguments but not other people to do the same.

one word to describe this hypocrisy on your part.

But sadly for you your responses gets worst
1. they do not answer the question
2. you are following a man aka osama who can;t even read the title of the chapter and made a wild claim that 1corintheans 5:5 says Christians should kill sexually immoral when the versus involved are excommunication

remember about the who takes the burden of all sins? you keep repeating one view and posted one link from osama's site which says the same but sadly the link does not explain why other verses are not the same and quran claims to be perfectly clear. all is the writer claiming it was beautifully written for one view but does not explain why other verses go against it.

BTW you shouldn;t you be condemning your fellow muslim on MDI on lusting after another persons wife?

Also while you are at it why don;t you go tell samatar that Islam supports death of apostates? he has issues understanding it.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6590312557191237519&postID=3904442952607673598

dstewart said...

I understand the importance of exposing the truth about these teachings, but the question that bothers me is when westernized Muslims read this stuff in light of the fact that this is "answeringMUSLIMS." How do we know that we're not just making more radicals? I mean, when faced with the reality of having to choose true Islamic teaching over apostasy, which would most Muslims rather choose? By experience, don't we find that most Muslims are stubbornly identified as Muslims?

If I can have a decent answer to this one question, I'd be all on-board with exposing these teachings to EVERYONE.

Mary said...

Jihad is framed as defensive because to resist Islam is to fight against it and commit fitna in the land. Defensive jihad is also easier to sell to common Muslims and gives them a false sense of glory in defending Islam, Muhammad, and Muhammad's Allah.

Samatar Mohamed said...

@Derek Adams

I see that you are engaging with Bassam Zawadi in the MDI website. Not a good idea Derek.

Here is the link if anyone is interested. It is Derek Adams engaging with Bassam on the Noble Quran.

http://thedebateinitiative.com/2012/05/19/has-the-quran-been-perfectly-preserved/#comments

curly said...

Hello Derek,
I like to ask you a question. I am just curious, have you read the book of Ibn Warraq? if so, what do you think? Thank you

Lleychino said...

@ dstewart,
I understand the importance of exposing the truth about these teachings, but the question that bothers me is when westernized Muslims read this stuff in light of the fact that this is "answeringMUSLIMS." How do we know that we're not just making more radicals?

If westernised Muslims REALLY believe in peace, then when they find out about the true teaching of Islam, they will consider leaving Islam as MANY have already.
Otherwise they aren't as moderate as we think at all.

Did that answer your question?

Evelyn said...

I'm not sure why Muslims like Samatar bother trying to justify their religion. It's obvious and blatant that the oft-cited verse of 'no compulsion in religion' has been abrogated by the verse of sword. Further information: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/34770

gabriella oak said...

Can't wait for Quran in Context 2. :)

blessed z said...

Well done brother David. God bless you. It's Yes, it's no doubt, it's 100%. True Islam teaching breeds terrorists. Actions speaks louder than words. Look at the brutality, killings etc Muslims did to non Muslim. Too bad many governments become stupid to fear this religion. May God be with us.

Skýwæłker»» said...

Well, world knows about Islam, i am surprise still yet why no country in this world ban Quran? why so ...i see the news in Russia trying to ban bhagavat Gita, hindu book ? why not quran ?

Derek Adams said...

Samatar Mohammed, I really do appreciate you advertising our conversation. And I suggest you pay close attention, because no doubt this topic may come up in our debate and you will need to be prepared.

If you intend arguing like Zawadi you will make my job all the more easier. Right now Zawadi has alot to contend with, but lets see how he does.

And remember to provide evidence 9:29 was NOT OFFENSIVE, after reading my TWO posts. That will be entertaining, especially considering the commentary that Zawadi cites backfires against him.

-Dk

Nakdimon said...

Ok. I'll have a crack at Zawadi's perfect preservation scenarios and see how Zawadi assumes what he cannot prove...

Derek Adams said...

Curly - If you mean "why I am not a Muslim?" by Ibn Warraq

I recommend it. It will be a great introduction, exhaustive information.

mkaimo said...

That was a masterful job, David, replete with clarity, logic and yes, even plain old common sense which seems to be in short supply nowadays. Bravo!

Jim said...

Excellent! Thank you for this resource it is wonderfully explained.

curly said...

Derek Adam,
Yes, it is "Why I am not Muslim" is one of Ibn Warraq's books.
I am not read the book yet. If you said not good book, I will not read the book. I am slow reader, and need to use my time wisely. I think you know that I am Deaf. Thank you for your feedback
I am just curious and like to ask you a last question, what is top three obstacles that you become Muslim? For me,
First I don't believe Mohammad is last prophet.
Second, I don't believe in OT and NT are corrupt. I do believe they have few flaws, but NOT corrupt.
Third, there are many prophets before Mohammad that God cannot guard the sacred book. How amazing that Mohammad can instruct his follower to guard the sacred book? Although many prophets before Mohammad cannot instruct his follower to guard the sacred book!

Selecta Mark said...

Hi David,
I only relatively recently discovered you and your website. I really appreciate all that hat you do concerning defending our Christian faith against the satanic lies of Islam keep up the good work. �� are with you, fam and ministry.

Grant Kelly said...

Hey Curly those are all great reasons. I agree with all of them.

Personally I can't currently think of the best reasons to not become a Muslim. But here are a few off the top of my head.


1) There is no evidence that Allah exists, plus there is evidence against Allah's existence

2) There is no evidence Mohammed's doctrines were original to him

3) There is no evidence Mohammed made any prophecy

4) There is no evidence Mohammed performed anything unexplanable by natural causation (e.g. no miracles).

5) The Quran is far from a miracle, it's the exact opposite, it contains numerous historical,scientific and grammatical errors. It also has no proof for anything it says.

6) Looks like the Quran has more than one author, it was a compilation over a longer period of time, and it hasn't been preserved as good as the Muslims claim it has.

These are some good reasons. But you know, Muslims are still stuck on things like:

1) The surah like it challenge

2) It has no contradiction or error

3)It has scientific statements far ahead of it's time.

4) Islam provides superior morality and justice system

etc

Muslims are stuck here with there head buried in the sand at this point.

-Derek

santana_10877 said...

Great video. What an amzing lesson from Favor Fav... "Don't believe the hype"....

santana_10877 said...

what amazing theological advice from Flavor Flav to not believe Islam... The real Public Enemy is Mohammad and his manuel is the Quran...

cheryl_maree said...

Hello David,
I am Praying for your child! As far as Sura 9.29, what I have been told id that, now get this that fight doesn't mean to be physical, oh no Allah just means in your mind or with words, things like that, I have also been told that jihad doesn't mean just fighting either. I would like to know how they come up with this?

David Wood said...

Ha! That's where context comes in. "Fighting," as it's used in 9:29, is defined for us in the context of Surah 9. The Qur'an tells us what kind of "fighting" is being addressed:

Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.

Whatever "fighting" means in Surah 9, it involves "slaying" and "getting slain." This hardly sounds like it refers to "thinking" or "discussing"!

Beyond this, think about how absurd 9:29 would be if it referred to thinking or discussing. The verse says Muslims are to fight the people of the Book until we're subdued and we're paying them the Jizyah. Has any Muslim ever successfully subjugated a Jew or a Christian, forcing the Jew or Christian to pay tribute, by thinking or by discussing something? Sheer nonsense!

As for Jihad, the term means "struggle," so Muslims are quick to point out that it can mean different things. But they ignore the fact that their prophet explains which Jihad is "best":

Sunan Ibn Majah 2794—It was narrated that Amr bin Abasah said: “I came to the Prophet and said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is best?’ He said: ‘(That of a man) whose blood is shed and his horse is wounded.’”

Once again, the Westernized reinterpretations of Muslims are refuted by their own prophet!

David Wood said...

Also, note the role of historical context in our interpretation of 9:29. When Muhammad received the verse, did he sit around and think? Did he try to set up a debate? No. He called his army and he set out to attack the Roman Empire! Hence, if the verse doesn't refer to actual fighting, it seems Muhammad himself didn't understand the verse. Too bad for Muhammad that his Westernized followers weren't around to explain the Qur'an to him!

cheryl_maree said...

I have questions? Who is Isa, I know they think it's Jesus but that is not the arabic name for Jesus, second, who is Uzayr? Was the historical evidence for the Jews saying this?

Herakleios said...

No Muslim here to refute the video? Seems finaly everybody agrees at least on one part of the Quran ;)

Cristo Te Ama said...

Great Job Brother David, this will be very useful when a Muslim tries to deceive us about the "peace of Islam" and the "tolerance" toward otehr religions that Muhammad had.

Baron Eddie said...

It is amazing how the word "love" became a Synonym to the word "katiloo"/fight !

Here is the definition of "katiloo"

- war
- rival; fight; make war; engage in a war or conflict
- make a war against; fight
- engage in battle (against); fight
- fight or struggle in war(against)
- enter into a battle or bloodshed or struggle (against)
- begin hostilities


- homicide
- a person who kills a human being
- killer, especially one who kills an important or famous person
- fatal; mortal
- a lady who kills


قاتِل
- homicide
- a person who kills a human being
- killer, especially one who kills an important or famous person
- person who commits the crime of killing
- person who murders
- having a very harmful effect


قاتِل
- mortal
- causing death or likely to cause death
- destructive; abolishing; eradicating; exterminating
- something or someone who destoys completely
- likely to cause death
- like death,or reminding of death
- causing or ending in death
- fatal; mortal
- having a very harmful effect
- person who damages and destroys
- a person or thing that ruins
- bringing ruin; disastrous, or in euins; dilapidated
- destructive; ruinous

Dictionary

Dragostea said...

on a another note, david, im not sure if you saw the article on yahoo news about 120 girls poisoned at a school in afghanistan just because they are girls and want to study...

simple_truth said...

Herakleios said...

"No Muslim here to refute the video? Seems finaly everybody agrees at least on one part of the Quran ;)"

I was thinking the same thing. I second that!

Dave Online said...

David, excellent video, but I still see that there's on "context" you didn't specifically address (at least I looked at your video a couple of times to check). Muslims might still be able to claim that this passage was just meant for Muhammad's tribe at that time, and not for all time. How would you close that loophole?

David Wood said...

I think the second context I discussed would apply. The justification for fighting Christians is that we say Jesus is the Son of God. But Christians still say this. Hence, fighting is still justified.

Moreover, consider what 9:29 says. It says Muslims are to fight the People of the Book until we are subdued and paying the Jizyah. But we're not subdued and we're not paying the Jizyah. Thus, Muslims are still supposed to be fighting us.

Dave Online said...

Makes sense. Thanks!

Osama Abdallah said...

Mr. David Wood,

I posted a video-rebuttal to your claims on the three stages of Jihad. While in Islam there are no three stages for Jihad, but going along with your term, I proved that there is a FOURTH STAGE that Commands the Muslims after they prevailed and had the disbelievers live under their rule to:

1- Be Just.
2- Be Merciful, Kind and Forgiving.
3- Show the Love of Allah to disbelievers and to everyone.


The Noble Verses are as follows:

On Justice:

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear God. For God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 5:8)"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble
Quran, 60:8)"

"God doth command you to render back your Trusts to those to whom they are due; And when ye judge between man and man, that ye judge with justice: Verily how excellent is the teaching which He giveth you! For God is He Who heareth and seeth all things. (The Noble Quran, 4:58)"

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for God can best protect both..... (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"


On Islam being "Jew Hating" (David Wood made this claim):

"Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (The Noble Quran, 7:159)"

"It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews,.....(The Noble Quran, 5:44)"

On Mercy and Forgiveness:

Let's see Islam's Golden Rule and the Noble Verses that deal with Forgiving and Forgetting the faults of others:

"....who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men;- (The Noble Quran, 3:134)"

"Hold to forgiveness; command what is right;...(The Noble Quran, 7:199)"

"Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the Days of God:....(The Noble Quran, 45:14)"


**************************
The Love of Allah Almighty:
*****************************


"They perform (their) vows, and they fear a Day whose evil flies far and wide. And they feed, for the LOVE OF GOD, the indigent, the orphan, and the CAPTIVE,- ....(The Noble Quran, 76:7-10)"

"....to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves;......(The Noble Quran, 2:177)"

The reader can visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm for more details.

Regards,
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com

Cocoda said...

Wow! fantastic date of posting from Osama Abdallah. It was 9/11.... The same date of the killing of the US Embassy in Libya and the WTC tragedy. It sort of terrorist anniversary though. Thanks for saying that Islam is:
1- Be Just.
2- Be Merciful, Kind and Forgiving.
3- Show the Love of Allah to disbelievers and to everyone.

Innocent people died just because where the film come from. And Syria praise the attack...

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and may God always with you Mr. Woods.

In my country Malaysia, the jihad stage is in stage 2. Muslim and non muslim have equal in numbers. But most of the public figure are muslims. And Mr. Woods already clarify what stage 2 is and it is happening here right now.

But one thing all of you have to know, i have lots of good muslim in Malaysia. We eat together, we sleep together, we work a the same place and nothing bad happened.

Right now, i'm still seeking the clarification of true love in Islam.

Mehmet said...

I am not a qualified Alim who is islamicly authorized to speak for islam, but even I can see your wrongs.

There are obvious explanations for other ones, but for the argument 9:29

* Quran cannot be interpreted by looking at one verse only. It must be considered as a whole. This is also stated in quran.
* The "hatta" implies until. So its general logic that it says do not oppress, do not fight until they figt you etc and in other verse it says fight until they pay "cizya" (tax). It says if you do fight give them (not all people, to the people who were given books) option to be free if they pay tax.

I do not understand how we as muslims declared as terrorists or unjust or voilent people with swords at their hands but the history is full of oppression, and wars and invasions against muslims.

I understand how you can be blind to the current attack on ALL muslims (countries where there are majority muslims) either by killing them (and this is very very voilently, even by disregarding their gender and age) or opressing/forcing them to change them whereever they cannot do.

And sorry, but I just happen to be here and I do not plant o come back to this dirty place.

David Wood said...

Did you even bother to watch the video? I discussed the context of the passage in great detail. And yet your response is "But you need to look at the context instead of just focusing on a single verse."

I must say I'm disturbed when so many Muslims respond to my arguments without even listening to them!

hindu_india said...

Mr. Osama Abdallah !
***"....to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves;......(The Noble Quran, 2:177)"***
>> Ransom of slaves ?
First of all why didn't the prophet abolish slavery ? since it was a curse on humanity !
Forget about taking money from slaves(once again,earning wealth inhumanly) and freeing them(and calling youselves merciful people)

*** there is a FOURTH STAGE that Commands the Muslims after they prevailed and had the disbelievers live under their rule to:***
>>> Just tell me, who gave muslims the right to suppress non-muslims, invading their lands(here don't talk about defensive wars..scroll up on this page and see wot Ibn Khatir said about fighting the Romans,who were not attacking Muhammad), and then taking money jizyah(Extortion)... forget about being Just to non-muslims(in your so called STAGE FOUR)...
Muslims used to sell non-muslim women in slave markets after having defeated the non-muslim armies and after having sex with their women. This is what you call Love of Allah for non-muslims...

Jizyah is Extortion, its suppression ! ( because non-muslims never wanted to pay you money, they were forced to do so)
You muslims didn't even spare the SLAVES..you took ransom money from them to free them... First of all why were you practicing Slavery...second Why didn't you free ALL of the slaves for free ??

Now, don't say Slavery and Child marriage was normal in 7th Century.. so wot Muhammad did was right, because if Muhammad was truly the messenger(Sent DIRECTLY BY GOD), he should've abolished slavery & child marriage on the very first day, When Islam was created !! Because prophets do not practice Slavery, also they do not sell women in Slave-markets.

Also prophets do not take women as captives, and do not give them to their family members, esp. to Son-in-laws !!!

You muslims are hypocrites, you are on Denial.
Your prophet used to have sex with concubines, captives, slave girls while being married ! and you dont call it ADULTERY !! wow.. because your Quran says those women were lawful to him... its not adultery ?? its Rape(with captives) Plus Adultery , both !!

Regarding marriage with Aisha, muslim apologists say It was the need of that time, Muhammad had to make alliances to make good relations with others. If that marriage was meant to have alliances for peace, why are you muslims still marrying little girls ??(its in your Sharia law books & quran) In Iran, Pakistan, Saudi-Arabia !! THE ALLIANCE OF YOUR MUHAMMAD IS STILL GOING ON ????????? Lolz !
Dude, there are verses in Quran to justify Child Marriage !! You muslims cant give these useless statements about alliances or this was OK in that era.

David Wood vs Sami Zaatari ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlcgbhvGRWE )
When debate was going on about marrying Aisha, this guy Sami says: Whats' wrooooooonnnnngggg ( in marrying a 9 yr old girl)

All you non-muslims, dont let your little daughters and sisters play around muslim houses.. becoz who knows some Muslim Uncles are eyeing them and thinking of making them their wives.
9, 10,11,12,13... are kids, stop justifying child marriages, their bodies are not ready for sex & producing children, you fools (or pedophiles ! )

reason said...

great job David amazing presentation thank you for giving us important lesson xoxoxoxoxo

Ally Cat said...

It's important to understand when the new religion, Islam was evolving, the society was in a mess, drunkenness, hate, girl children were not wanted and buried alive...at the time Islam and Muslims did not exist. Changes had to come about, for these people to see freedom. Islam evolved over a period of 22 years. Yes, there were times where the people had to fight for the freedom, whether it was against the pagans, Christians, Jews or who ever. The Quran reflects those periods. To purify the hearts of people, changes had to be made. It's important to read the whole Quran and understand it from beginning to end, instead of picking out lines that says "fight" or something which sounds negative...it's important to look at the values the religion Islam brought...females were now allowed to divorce--something other nations did not allow...females were educated, something other nations did not allow...medicine grew out of this great religion...other nations across the globe started to follow in the footstep of islam for growth...

J P Sundharam said...

Thank you for sharing all the Quran verses and Hadiths... Your explanation was clear, precise and as you put it, understandable by a 6 year old.

J P Sundharam said...

Hi David,
Thank you for publishing the Quran verses and ahadith quotes. Also for sharing the pdf file.

You have made it simple and easy to share about the 3 stages of Jihad.

Keep up the good work.