Thursday, March 15, 2012

David and Sam on "Jesus or Muhammad?" This Friday and Saturday

It's that time again.

The new season of "Jesus or Muhammad?" kicks off tonight at 10:30 P.M. (EST). We'll also have a show Saturday at 10:30 P.M. If you don't get the show via satellite, you can watch live at www.ABNsat.com.

24 comments:

curly said...

This video offer the subtitle for Deaf??

Traeh said...

OT: Consider the meaning of the name "Israel," which the Bible says Jacob received for wrestling all night with God who had appeared to Jacob in the form of a man or angel. Israel means, "he wrestled with God," or "he struggled with God" or even "he strove with God." Now recall that "jihad" means striving, so that one might say that Jacob and God were "jihading" with and against each other all night. Could one ever imagine an orthodox Muslim using the term "jihad" in that way? That sort of struggling with God has virtually no part in Islam. Nor did the being whom Muhammad met in the cave at the beginning of Islam wrestle with Muhammad all night. Islamic tradition tells us that that being practically crushed the breath out of Muhammad until Muhammad, within moments, agreed to recite what would become the Qur'an's first-revealed verse.

Islam speaks of a slavish kind of submission to a God who is debased to appear as the ultimate dictator and only free being. The Jews and Christians, by contrast, speak of a covenant, a mutual agreement or contract with God. Jews and Christians are conceived as sons and daughters of God. The Qur'an clearly states Allah has no sons or daughters. Furthermore, Qur'an 51:56, for example, says that human beings have been created only so they could be Allah's servants or slaves -- not his heirs, as sons and daughters would be.

The Qur'an denies that human beings are made in the image or likeness of God. Islam conceives God in the image of the all-too-human, as a despot of the most absolute sort. Submission to God is also part of the Judeo-Christian tradition, but not to the misanthropic extent one finds at the core of Islam.

minoria said...

Hi Curly,

Now I could be wrong but when they post the coming programs on youtube they will probably have,at the right bottom the letters
"CC" for close captioning.

1.Sometimes "CC" will be in GREY and sometimes in RED.

2.If "CC" is in GREY click on it till it turns RED,and then click on "CC" again.Then will appear various options.

3.If "CC" is just in RED click on the "CC" just once.

4.When the options appear Click on "Transcribe Audio".

5.Wait till the words "OK/cancel" appear.

6.Click on "OK" and the subtitles will appear.

WARNING

It is a new system thatis using VOICE RECOGNITION so like 30% of the transcripts will be nonsense since it is a machine.

For example:instead of hearing "Muslim" the machine will write "slim".Or instead of "eat" it will hear "speak",or "cold" for "car".

Check it out:Here is a "Jesus or Muhammad" show:

"Muhammad's errors about Jesus"

It has the "CC" option

http://youtu.be/XgsuJCAzZv4

Here are other "Jesus or Muhammad" videos with the "CC" option.It seems ALL the "Jesus or Muhammad" videos in YOUTUBE have the CC OPTION.And alot of other videos in youtube about other things.

http://youtu.be/YDYv-TQrwT0

http://youtu.be/uYaKP3T-LN0

http://youtu.be/xpCKcbXam6s

http://youtu.be/xpCKcbXam6s

AND ALSO

Guys read the article:

"The Evidence is the 1995 Srebrenica Massacre of 8,000 Muslims by Serbs is a Hoax"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/03/16/the-evidence-is-the-1995-srebrenica-massacre-of-8000-muslims-by-serbs-is-a-hoax/

"The Assasins,the Second Terrorist Group in Muslim History"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/03/13/the-assasinsthe-second-terrorist-group-in-muslim-history/

Kangaroo said...

Just remember..while the teachings of apostasy and death and all that stuff applies, it applies and is executed by the ruler and/or his deputies ONLY.

Vigilantes are not accepted.

sara said...

Just finished watching the show and it was great, thank you David, ABN, Pamela and the brothers who was on the show with you for taking the time to inform us about the sad reality of honor killings and may God protect you all and continue to bless you.
Thank you

Herakleios said...

Hi,
is there any way to watch it on youtube or something like that? I live in germany and its 4:30 AM when its live-streaming ...

Would like to watch it :)

Koala Bear said...

@Kangaroo - well at least you admit that islam calls for people to be murdered for leaving. As for your justification perhaps you should tell that to your fellow muslim but am pretty sure you would be killed in 2 minutes or less.

Consider this checklist of characteristics of a cult and you will see how islam is in fact a cult not a religion http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm

simple_truth said...

Herakleios said...

"Hi,
is there any way to watch it on youtube or something like that? I live in germany and its 4:30 AM when its live-streaming ...

Would like to watch it :)"

Hi, Herakleios.

All of their videos are posted at a later time on the abnsat website. Just continue to look until they post it in the video section under Jesus or Mohammad in the lower left column. You can watch it streaming at any time afterwards.

Haecceitas said...

I watched it live even though it was 4:30AM here as well. And it was definitely worth it.

maria said...
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minoria said...

Hi Heraklios,

abnsat.com always posts the Jesus or Muhammad shows on youtube a few days after the live show.

Billy said...

@Kangaroo,

While your quibble with your brethren regarding who should order and carryout the execution is duly noted, we can finally agree that the punishment for apostasy is death according to Muhammad.

Kangaroo, thanks for publicly acknowledging that Islam denies freedom of religion.

Foolster41 said...

Kangaroo: There are two fundamental problems with what you said.

One, what you say is outright false. Your contradicting your own prophet, who praised the murder of a non-believer after the fact. (al-Tabari 1440):

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-murder.htm

If that's not vigilantism, I don't know what is! He also gave open ended commands to kill non-believers to be enacted long after he died (end of days), but doesn't indicate "but only leaders and their deputies" as far as I can see.

Secondly, whether fascism (and that's what laws that dictate that non-beleivers and apostates should be killed is) is carried out by rulers and their deputies doens't make it any less morally vile. That you think murdering someone for their beliefs is okay if it's "only" carried out by a leader and a deputy says worlds about your character.

maria said...

Honor Killing in Islam!
Jesus or Muhammad? 3/16/12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXH6C9EFcks&feature=youtu.be

Kangaroo said...

The person can switch religions. However he/she shouldn't be making it public by sending out posters and calling people to Christianity, in an Islamic state. If he/she decides to apostate it is his/her personal choice, as long as it stays between the family members and personal friends. Otherwise the person is given 3 days to repent or change his/her mind. The person can ask the scholars for answers etc and if the person remains an apostate then that person will be executed, (for making it public).

http://www.ourdialogue.com/answers/articles.php?action=cat&acid=135

Kangaroo said...

Just remember what sources you are using...

Foolster41 said...

Kangaroo: Oh! If they don't make it public! I take it back, that's not fascist at all!

Sick. Of course, Christians, Buddists, Jews, etc. wouldn't dream of acting this way.

Foolster41 said...

and I remember my sources fine. Is there something wrong with them?

Billy said...

Kangaroo, what you are essentially saying is that a person can change his Islamic religion, but Muslims will kill him if they find out about it.

Again, we are in agreement that Islam denies freedom of religion and demands the murder of apostates for exercising freedom of conscience.

CristoTeAma said...

Kangaroo said: "The person can switch religions. However he/she shouldn't be making it public by sending out posters and calling people to Christianity, in an Islamic state."

I rest my case.

no w8 i need to say something else, so you see "christians" who become muslims saying in public and loud that they are muslims now, and we don't see Christians telling we should kill them (thx to our Lord who call us for peace and love) yet Kangarro think that Muslims should kill Nabeel for leaving Islam and saying it out loud (if USA were a sharia state)... Yeah you are right Kangaroo Islam is peace and freedom of religion.

The reasoning of some muslims is just scary because they actually think this barbaric statements are right.

Foolster41 said...

No one but moderate, peaceful muslims here, according to Samatar! He mentions Osama, Kim and Kangaroo by name!

Osama praises Hamas and hates Jews.
Kim and Kangaroo praise Islama-fascim and suppression of freedom of religion and speech! All so peaceful! I haven't seen Samatar ONCE condemn any of these things from his fellow mu slims

(because after rule #1 - never apologize to a Kuffir, the second rule is never criticize a fellow muslim in front of a kuffir. It shows weakness, since muslims are superior to kuffir dontyouknow. )

This is the mindset I've seen with every single muslim I've talked to, even ones who seem nice and moderate at first, eventually fascism and/or anti-semetism comes to the surface.

simple_truth said...

Kangaroo said...

"The person can switch religions. However he/she shouldn't be making it public by sending out posters and calling people to Christianity, in an Islamic state. If he/she decides to apostate it is his/her personal choice, as long as it stays between the family members and personal friends."

It seems like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Did it ever occur to you that matters like this can leak to a Muslim who will, in turn, turn this person in? This can all be done without any public announcement or intention to announce it. All one really needs is for a Muslim to make the accusation and the Christian is doomed. The issues becomes a matter of whether the person apostatized or not--not whether it as publicly announced.

" Otherwise the person is given 3 days to repent or change his/her mind. The person can ask the scholars for answers etc and if the person remains an apostate then that person will be executed, (for making it public)."

What is the Islamic definition of 'public'? I am sure it is not what a normal person would think. Normal, meaning non Islamic.

TPaul said...

Kangaroo said...
"The person can switch religions. However he/she shouldn't be making it public by sending out posters and calling people to Christianity..."

This Muslim is a hypocrite through and through. He clearly sees that Islam is a problem, yet in his arrogance to prove the superiority of his cult, he finds ways to justify this hypocricy.

Here is what your evil prophet had to say about the problem of people leaving the cult of Islam.

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57: "...I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him'...."

simple_truth said...

Kangaroo said...

"Just remember..while the teachings of apostasy and death and all that stuff applies, it applies and is executed by the ruler and/or his deputies ONLY.

Vigilantes are not accepted."

I am not convinced by this since the so-called vigilantes very seldom get a lengthly sentence in prison or jail. Most are either not punished or get a few months in jail. It is normally a slap on the wrist. That signifies to me, that their actions are not vigilant but sanctioned. Their sentences are perhaps an attempt to appease the public.