Muslims around the world pretend to care about Palestinian refugees. However, Muslim countries refuse to grant citizenship to the refugees, preferring to keep them segregated. Why? Because the refugees are simply a tool in the war against Israel.
It's very telling of the Arabs. They don't care about those who are in Palestine unless it furthers their cause of hatred and/or destruction of Israel.
The telling fact is that Israel doesn't discriminate against them within their borders. I wonder why the same can't be said of the Arabs? The answer should be apparent.
"Muslims around the world pretend to care about Palestinian refugees. However, Muslim countries refuse to grant citizenship to the refugees, preferring to keep them segregated. Why? Because the refugees are simply a tool in the war against Israel."
RESPONSE:
Palestinians were granted permanent residences in all of the countries they migrated to. Jordan also gave them Jordanian citizenships, and I myself am a Jordanian and American citizen with Palestinian origins.
The reason why Palestinians were denied to be granted the citizenships was to not destroy their cause. If they became citizens of other countries, then this would weaken their cause in front of the world to return to Palestine. The Arab states refused to grant them their citizenships to help the Palestinian cause. Now, I grant you that some Palestinians who live in refugee camps have it hard. But that's the same with the other nationals of these countries. This is all due to the corrupt dictatorships that the Arab Spring is now fiercely fighting against. If it were up to the Arab nations from the Atlantic ocean to the Persian gulf, there wouldn't be any nationalties. They'd all be Arabs and Muslims. Arabs want this. The dictators do not. Do you know why the Iraqi flag has 3 stars, and the Syrian flag has 2 stars, and the Egyptian flag has an eagle? Each star represents a country. Syria, Egypt and Iraq once wanted to become one country. It started with Egypt and Syria, which is where you get the 2 stars on the Syrian flag. THen IRaq joined in. Then it all fell through due to the dictators' disagreements, and Egypt changed the stars to an eagle. The point I am making is that the Arabs and Muslims are all equal. It is deeply rooted in us. The Islamic Yearly Pilgrimage speaks clearly of this. It is the dictators that don't make it work.
"The telling fact is that Israel doesn't discriminate against them within their borders. I wonder why the same can't be said of the Arabs?"
RESPONSE:
Israel doesn't discriminate against the Arabs in Israel?! What world do you live in?! Israel is among the most racist countries in the entire world! They just can't do their BS too openly because they don't want to ruin their *weak/innocent/victim* false image. But still despite all of this, Israel is still considered one of the most racist countries in the entire world!
By the way, this goes against the Christians there as well. Not just the Muslims.
"Israel doesn't discriminate against the Arabs in Israel?! What world do you live in?! Israel is among the most racist countries in the entire world! "
Yes, those poor arabs who can vote, serve on the Kisnet and have equal rights. The same cannot be said for Jews (or for that matter, Christsians or Buddists) living in Arab countries.
"They just can't do their BS too openly because they don't want to ruin their *weak/innocent/victim* false image." Oh I see, they oppress but not too hard, so you got to look closely, and see what's really happening, dontyouknow. Who are the victems then? The "palastinains" who are calling for the extermination of Jews (Hamas, Hezballah) and shoot rockets into their country?
What world do YOU live in? Once again, your rabid anti-semetism (Jew hatred), that seems a prevalent symptom of Islam is showing.
The Arab Spring - yeah, brings freedom and peace to all those countries. Clear evidence for this is the call for "sharia law" and burning churches ;).
Seems like a muslim-paradise, i just wonder, why many people now "flee" to europe and not all those muslims living here emigrate to egypt and other countries.
It is an unfortunate cognitive deficit of the Arab/Muslim to twist the truth to suit the lies told by the intellectually poverty-stricken slaves of Mohammed.
To Osama Abdallah. I cannot believe that Palestinians PREFER to live in refugee camps in Lebanon, at the mercy of attack, in order to promote their cause. The truth is that without wilfully "suffering" Palestinians there would be no cause would there? Arafat had to invent a Palestinian people. They are really Jordanians! Their suffering is also used to deflect attention from the treatment of citizens of the countries they find themselves from the governments who ill-treat them to the Israelis who do not.
Palestinians have been a people only since Arafat admitted that he needed to have a Palestinian people in order to pull at the world's hearstrings. Those Jordanians who choose to call themselves Palestinians may have the right to a state of their own but not at Israel's expense. Had they not been so hate-driven by their dark ages belief system and because their prophet hated the Jews of his time who did not believe in his new religion, they might have got their state by now and be benefiting now from the technological and other advances of their neighbour.
Instead they prefer to hate and try to destroy in order to emulate their prophet's pernicious envy of Jewish success. There has been a Jewish presence in what is now Israel since before your prophet was born or began wreaking the havoc he did. It is therefore an outright lie to claim that what is now Israel belongs to Palestinians and Islam.
I also doubt that, had Palestinians the sense or had not been threatened by heaven knows what, they would not willingly accept citizenship of those countries in which they found themselves. Instead they prefer to resort to the belligerent self-pity in which they are so expert.
You give yourself away, too, by saying that you are a Muslim first, which means that you are in favour of imposing that dark ages religion on everyone.
And you are indeed a liar. Israeli Arabs and Muslims are among the freest in the Middle East, Israel is the only state in the Middle East where the population of Christians is growing, and all religions have freedom of worship. Contrary to the lies your co-religionists tell and stupid people believe there is no apartheid in Israel, unlike in Saudi where no Jew is allowed to set foot and there are no churches.
Israelis don't burn churches and murder Christians as Egyptian Muslims do. They have even agreed to accept Alawite refugees from Syria, a country sworn to wipe Israel out!
If you can bear it this should lighten your darkness Osama Abdallah. Then you can come here and apologise spinning the yarn about alleged "oppression" of Palestinians:
This is the CIA or Mossad doing this. They are always trying to make Islam look bad. They are trying to create hatred between us. Islam never taught hate or created enmity between people. Sneaky CIA, or maybe the Illuminate or Bilderbergers! Couldnt be Muslims!
You probably lie as easily as you breathe because Islam tells you that lying is permitted to kufar but we can see right through you.
There must be a real deficit in the Muslim mind to have them believe that Palestinians prefer to suffer in places like Lebanon which not too long ago was killing them.
You say that they choose not to take citizenship. I don't believe you.
You admit that you are Jordanian, which is probably the only honest thing you have said. The truth is, as Arafat himself said, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian people". Arafat invented them to pull at the heartstrings of a gullible world and because he, like his demented prophet whom he was required to emulate, hated Jews with a passion.
There has been a Jewish presence in what is now Israel since before your prophet was born. There is no such thing as the right to return to a state the "Palestinians" never had!
The truth is that, driven by hatred as they are, and required to emulate their prophet as the perfect specimen, "Palestinians" will never have a state at all. They deserve one, but not at Israel's expense. Had they not been so hate driven they could have agreed to a lasting peace with their Jewish neighbor and benefited from her advanced technology and other breakthroughs. Instead they live in the dark ages, intellectually as well as spiritually. No nation ever survived when it was driven only by hatred.
Israeli Arabs are among the freest in the world. Israel is a haven to all religions oppressed by the death cult of Islam and is the only state in the Middle East where the population of Christians is actually increasing. Israel offers freedom of worship to all, unlike Saudi which will not allow Jews to set foot there and where no churches are allowed. Israel does not burn churches or kill Christians, unlike Egypt, which is, no doubt, following the dictates of Islam, the so called "religion of peace."
Abdallah, watch this and prepare to be made very uncomfortable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IGJzfAYbk
Weep for your coreligionists' wilful blindness which has set them on a self-destruct path, all because their slave-master, whom they are condemned to emulate, was perniciously jealous of Jews who refused to recognise his "prophethood".
You state, “Now, I grant you that some Palestinians who live in refugee camps have it hard.”
Response, It is not only Palestinians living in refugee camps who have it hard. Majority of the Moslems have it hard in moslem countries. Majority of Moslems want to migrate to the west. In college, I was the only Christian in my class and all of my Moslem friends wanted to come to America. Not a single one ever mentioned to go to an Arab country. Now why is it that with the exception of some dictators, majority of the so called Moslems can’t help such a tiny population of palistinian refugees? Do you know who supports them? I will leave that alone because you wouldn’t believe it anyhow.
You state, “They'd all be Arabs and Muslims. Arabs want this. The dictators do not.”.
Response: Denial, Denial Denial. Always whining and whining. It is always someone else’s fault. This time it is the dictators. Are you telling me that these dictators are not Moslems? Is King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia, the defender of Islam’s holy places, is not a Moslem? Are president of Syria and other countries are not Moslems? On the hind side, just think about it. How easy it is to defeat your Allah and Islam. Just a handful of dictator are controlling the entire Moslem world. They are so powerful then Allah, that they will not allow Shariah to be implemented. WOW. They are so powerful that they will not allow all Moslems to become one nation. And how long Islam has been around? Sixteen hundred years. And you believe that Islam is going to take over the world and Shariah will be the only law of the world. YOU CAN’T HANDLE A HANDFUL OF DICTATORS AND YOU THINK ISLAM IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD. You can’t fight a handful of dictators and you want to fight the west.
You state, “If it were up to the Arab nations from the Atlantic ocean to the Persian gulf, there wouldn't be any nationalties.” And “The point I am making is that the Arabs and Muslims are all equal.”
Response: Is that why Iraq fought Iran for ten years. Is that why Kuwait was invaded? If all Moslems are equal why are Afghani Moslems living in Pakistan called refugees instead of “brothers”? If there wouldn’t be any nationalities, why did East Pakistan liberated from West Pakistan. After all they are all Moslems? If there wouldn’t be any nationalities, is that why you are so proud to call your self a Jordanian? OR, DOES THIS UTOPIA ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR BEAUTIFUL MIND.
Its not too late, Wake up. May the Lord have mercy on your soul and that you come to accept the true and Living God of the Bible.
You probably lie as easily as you breathe because Islam tells you that lying is permitted to kufar but we can see right through you. "
He is a real doofus. He has no credibility. Any Muslims who think that neither they nor their religion wrongs others is also a doofus, that is, if they have any moral fiber within them.
" The Devils are always accused you of the very thing that they are guilty of. "
I often feel this way, especially concerning Islam. There is such a spiritual darkness regarding that religion and many of its adherents.
Also, think about the amount of arrogance and pride that Muslims often show in how they look at others and their religions. That is also a telling sign to me.
When I think of Islam, I often think of Ishmael from the Bible as the symbol of bondage and spiritual darkness.
Funny how the muslo-nazis scream about the "apartheid" state of Israel while ignoring the fact that all their muslo-nazi states are religious apartheids.
When I think of Islam, I often think of Ishmael from the Bible as the symbol of bondage and spiritual darkness."
Ishmael is not the Father of Muhammad
http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ishmael.htm
And on a Biblical standpoint...
From Genesis 12 account.
God to Abraham "I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your offspring."
God to Hagar about Ishmael "I will make him into a great nation.”
Genesis states of God with Ishmael God was with the boy as he grew up.
What is that scripture... beauty from ashes. I think the lesson (if we are to constantly learn from history, outside of history just being history) is, God does make all things new. God was with the boy, although he was sent away, born in Abraham's sin/lack of faith/using fleshly means to fulfill God's promise...
Ishmael shouldn't be a symbol for anything other than God's ability to work through man's failure. He was conceived in his fathers failure, but did not live his life as such, and God was with him and multiplied his decedents. Also stated in Sam Shamoun's article, Mohammed was not descended from Ishmael anyways.
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It's very telling of the Arabs. They don't care about those who are in Palestine unless it furthers their cause of hatred and/or destruction of Israel.
The telling fact is that Israel doesn't discriminate against them within their borders. I wonder why the same can't be said of the Arabs? The answer should be apparent.
"Muslims around the world pretend to care about Palestinian refugees. However, Muslim countries refuse to grant citizenship to the refugees, preferring to keep them segregated. Why? Because the refugees are simply a tool in the war against Israel."
RESPONSE:
Palestinians were granted permanent residences in all of the countries they migrated to. Jordan also gave them Jordanian citizenships, and I myself am a Jordanian and American citizen with Palestinian origins.
The reason why Palestinians were denied to be granted the citizenships was to not destroy their cause. If they became citizens of other countries, then this would weaken their cause in front of the world to return to Palestine. The Arab states refused to grant them their citizenships to help the Palestinian cause. Now, I grant you that some Palestinians who live in refugee camps have it hard. But that's the same with the other nationals of these countries. This is all due to the corrupt dictatorships that the Arab Spring is now fiercely fighting against. If it were up to the Arab nations from the Atlantic ocean to the Persian gulf, there wouldn't be any nationalties. They'd all be Arabs and Muslims. Arabs want this. The dictators do not. Do you know why the Iraqi flag has 3 stars, and the Syrian flag has 2 stars, and the Egyptian flag has an eagle? Each star represents a country. Syria, Egypt and Iraq once wanted to become one country. It started with Egypt and Syria, which is where you get the 2 stars on the Syrian flag. THen IRaq joined in. Then it all fell through due to the dictators' disagreements, and Egypt changed the stars to an eagle. The point I am making is that the Arabs and Muslims are all equal. It is deeply rooted in us. The Islamic Yearly Pilgrimage speaks clearly of this. It is the dictators that don't make it work.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
"The telling fact is that Israel doesn't discriminate against them within their borders. I wonder why the same can't be said of the Arabs?"
RESPONSE:
Israel doesn't discriminate against the Arabs in Israel?! What world do you live in?! Israel is among the most racist countries in the entire world! They just can't do their BS too openly because they don't want to ruin their *weak/innocent/victim* false image. But still despite all of this, Israel is still considered one of the most racist countries in the entire world!
By the way, this goes against the Christians there as well. Not just the Muslims.
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
"Israel doesn't discriminate against the Arabs in Israel?! What world do you live in?! Israel is among the most racist countries in the entire world! "
Yes, those poor arabs who can vote, serve on the Kisnet and have equal rights. The same cannot be said for Jews (or for that matter, Christsians or Buddists) living in Arab countries.
"They just can't do their BS too openly because they don't want to ruin their *weak/innocent/victim* false image."
Oh I see, they oppress but not too hard, so you got to look closely, and see what's really happening, dontyouknow. Who are the victems then? The "palastinains" who are calling for the extermination of Jews (Hamas, Hezballah) and shoot rockets into their country?
What world do YOU live in? Once again, your rabid anti-semetism (Jew hatred), that seems a prevalent symptom of Islam is showing.
The Arab Spring - yeah, brings freedom and peace to all those countries. Clear evidence for this is the call for "sharia law" and burning churches ;).
Seems like a muslim-paradise, i just wonder, why many people now "flee" to europe and not all those muslims living here emigrate to egypt and other countries.
It is an unfortunate cognitive deficit of the Arab/Muslim to twist the truth to suit the lies told by the intellectually poverty-stricken slaves of Mohammed.
To Osama Abdallah. I cannot believe that Palestinians PREFER to live in refugee camps in Lebanon, at the mercy of attack, in order to promote their cause. The truth is that without wilfully "suffering" Palestinians there would be no cause would there? Arafat had to invent a Palestinian people. They are really Jordanians! Their suffering is also used to deflect attention from the treatment of citizens of the countries they find themselves from the governments who ill-treat them to the Israelis who do not.
Palestinians have been a people only since Arafat admitted that he needed to have a Palestinian people in order to pull at the world's hearstrings. Those Jordanians who choose to call themselves Palestinians may have the right to a state of their own but not at Israel's expense. Had they not been so hate-driven by their dark ages belief system and because their prophet hated the Jews of his time who did not believe in his new religion, they might have got their state by now and be benefiting now from the technological and other advances of their neighbour.
Instead they prefer to hate and try to destroy in order to emulate their prophet's pernicious envy of Jewish success.
There has been a Jewish presence in what is now Israel since before your prophet was born or began wreaking the havoc he did. It is therefore an outright lie to claim that what is now Israel belongs to Palestinians and Islam.
I also doubt that, had Palestinians the sense or had not been threatened by heaven knows what, they would not willingly accept citizenship of those countries in which they found themselves. Instead they prefer to resort to the belligerent self-pity in which they are so expert.
You give yourself away, too, by saying that you are a Muslim first, which means that you are in favour of imposing that dark ages religion on everyone.
And you are indeed a liar. Israeli Arabs and Muslims are among the freest in the Middle East, Israel is the only state in the Middle East where the population of Christians is growing, and all religions have freedom of worship. Contrary to the lies your co-religionists tell and stupid people believe there is no apartheid in Israel, unlike in Saudi where no Jew is allowed to set foot and there are no churches.
Israelis don't burn churches and murder Christians as Egyptian Muslims do. They have even agreed to accept Alawite refugees from Syria, a country sworn to wipe Israel out!
If you can bear it this should lighten your darkness Osama Abdallah. Then you can come here and apologise spinning the yarn about alleged "oppression" of Palestinians:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IGJzfAYbk
Watch and weep.
This is the CIA or Mossad doing this. They are always trying to make Islam look bad. They are trying to create hatred between us. Islam never taught hate or created enmity between people. Sneaky CIA, or maybe the Illuminate or Bilderbergers! Couldnt be Muslims!
Osama Abdallah
You probably lie as easily as you breathe because Islam tells you that lying is permitted to kufar but we can see right through you.
There must be a real deficit in the Muslim mind to have them believe that Palestinians prefer to suffer in places like Lebanon which not too long ago was killing them.
You say that they choose not to take citizenship. I don't believe you.
You admit that you are Jordanian, which is probably the only honest thing you have said. The truth is, as Arafat himself said, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian people". Arafat invented them to pull at the heartstrings of a gullible world and because he, like his demented prophet whom he was required to emulate, hated Jews with a passion.
There has been a Jewish presence in what is now Israel since before your prophet was born. There is no such thing as the right to return to a state the "Palestinians" never had!
The truth is that, driven by hatred as they are, and required to emulate their prophet as the perfect specimen, "Palestinians" will never have a state at all. They deserve one, but not at Israel's expense. Had they not been so hate driven they could have agreed to a lasting peace with their Jewish neighbor and benefited from her advanced technology and other breakthroughs. Instead they live in the dark ages, intellectually as well as spiritually. No nation ever survived when it was driven only by hatred.
Israeli Arabs are among the freest in the world. Israel is a haven to all religions oppressed by the death cult of Islam and is the only state in the Middle East where the population of Christians is actually increasing. Israel offers freedom of worship to all, unlike Saudi which will not allow Jews to set foot there and where no churches are allowed. Israel does not burn churches or kill Christians, unlike Egypt, which is, no doubt, following the dictates of Islam, the so called "religion of peace."
Abdallah, watch this and prepare to be made very uncomfortable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IGJzfAYbk
Weep for your coreligionists' wilful blindness which has set them on a self-destruct path, all because their slave-master, whom they are condemned to emulate, was perniciously jealous of Jews who refused to recognise his "prophethood".
It must be like living in a perpetual hell.
@ Osama Abdallah,
Just a few comments on your reply.
You state, “Now, I grant you that some Palestinians who live in refugee camps have it hard.”
Response,
It is not only Palestinians living in refugee camps who have it hard. Majority of the Moslems have it hard in moslem countries. Majority of Moslems want to migrate to the west. In college, I was the only Christian in my class and all of my Moslem friends wanted to come to America. Not a single one ever mentioned to go to an Arab country.
Now why is it that with the exception of some dictators, majority of the so called Moslems can’t help such a tiny population of palistinian refugees? Do you know who supports them? I will leave that alone because you wouldn’t believe it anyhow.
You state, “They'd all be Arabs and Muslims. Arabs want this. The dictators do not.”.
Response:
Denial, Denial Denial. Always whining and whining. It is always someone else’s fault. This time it is the dictators. Are you telling me that these dictators are not Moslems? Is King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia, the defender of Islam’s holy places, is not a Moslem? Are president of Syria and other countries are not Moslems?
On the hind side, just think about it. How easy it is to defeat your Allah and Islam. Just a handful of dictator are controlling the entire Moslem world. They are so powerful then Allah, that they will not allow Shariah to be implemented. WOW. They are so powerful that they will not allow all Moslems to become one nation. And how long Islam has been around? Sixteen hundred years.
And you believe that Islam is going to take over the world and Shariah will be the only law of the world. YOU CAN’T HANDLE A HANDFUL OF DICTATORS AND YOU THINK ISLAM IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD. You can’t fight a handful of dictators and you want to fight the west.
You state, “If it were up to the Arab nations from the Atlantic ocean to the Persian gulf, there wouldn't be any nationalties.” And “The point I am making is that the Arabs and Muslims are all equal.”
Response:
Is that why Iraq fought Iran for ten years. Is that why Kuwait was invaded? If all Moslems are equal why are Afghani Moslems living in Pakistan called refugees instead of “brothers”? If there wouldn’t be any nationalities, why did East Pakistan liberated from West Pakistan. After all they are all Moslems? If there wouldn’t be any nationalities, is that why you are so proud to call your self a Jordanian? OR, DOES THIS UTOPIA ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR BEAUTIFUL MIND.
Its not too late, Wake up. May the Lord have mercy on your soul and that you come to accept the true and Living God of the Bible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COFf5Cq-oIc&feature=g-all-u
This guy Osama is something else. I'm sorry he's either truly blinded or totally ignorant.
It's unreal what spews out of his mouth. As soon as he opens it he puts his foot in it.
The Devils are always accused you of the very thing that they are guilty of.
Babs said...
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Osama Abdallah
You probably lie as easily as you breathe because Islam tells you that lying is permitted to kufar but we can see right through you.
"
He is a real doofus. He has no credibility. Any Muslims who think that neither they nor their religion wrongs others is also a doofus, that is, if they have any moral fiber within them.
MikeK said...
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The Devils are always accused you of the very thing that they are guilty of.
"
I often feel this way, especially concerning Islam. There is such a spiritual darkness regarding that religion and many of its adherents.
Also, think about the amount of arrogance and pride that Muslims often show in how they look at others and their religions. That is also a telling sign to me.
When I think of Islam, I often think of Ishmael from the Bible as the symbol of bondage and spiritual darkness.
Funny how the muslo-nazis scream about the "apartheid" state of Israel while ignoring the fact that all their muslo-nazi states are religious apartheids.
"simple_truth said...
When I think of Islam, I often think of Ishmael from the Bible as the symbol of bondage and spiritual darkness."
Ishmael is not the Father of Muhammad
http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ishmael.htm
And on a Biblical standpoint...
From Genesis 12 account.
God to Abraham
"I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your offspring."
God to Hagar about Ishmael
"I will make him into a great nation.”
Genesis states of God with Ishmael
God was with the boy as he grew up.
What is that scripture... beauty from ashes. I think the lesson (if we are to constantly learn from history, outside of history just being history) is, God does make all things new. God was with the boy, although he was sent away, born in Abraham's sin/lack of faith/using fleshly means to fulfill God's promise...
Ishmael shouldn't be a symbol for anything other than God's ability to work through man's failure. He was conceived in his fathers failure, but did not live his life as such, and God was with him and multiplied his decedents. Also stated in Sam Shamoun's article, Mohammed was not descended from Ishmael anyways.
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