Friday, November 11, 2011

The Rapist Mullah Cult

Unbelievable, but current statistics reveal that 700 Catholic Christian girls, in Pakistan, each year, are forced into Islam via rape and kidnapping. Some are even sold abroad.

Read the article here:


In Pakistani Sindh, the estimated number of 40.000 Hindu girls have been exposed to such attrocities, in which they forcibly turned to Islam.

The situation is currently so devastating, that some now refer to 'The Rapist Mullah Cult':

17 comments:

donna60 said...

The Christians in America should rise up and demand the death-penalty for pedophiles like Jerry Sandusky, including Jerry Sandusky himself. Then we can demonstrate to the rest of the world what should be done to rapists in other countries.

Kim said...

As usual, articles by Wood have nothing to do with Islam.

Nice pattern, now I know which posts to avoid reading.

Tatersalad said...

ge body Great website if someone is planning on "leaving Islam":

http://freedomdefense.typepad.com/leave-islam/


Video of Pam Geller and the facts on Islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLzlQ7WrvfQ&feature=player_embedded

David Wood said...

Kim said: "As usual, articles by Wood have nothing to do with Islam."

As usual, comments by Kim have nothing to do with reality. What do you mean by "articles by Wood." I didn't write the articles, nor did I write this blog post.

But let's look at your claim. Does raping non-Muslims have anything to do with Islam? Yes. It's advocated by the Qur'an. Does forcing people to convert to Islam have something to do with Islam? Yes. It's advocated by the Qur'an.

Does praying five times a day have something to do with Islam? Does reciting the Shahada? Why is it that only the elements of Islam that you like are relevant to Islam, while the many Islamic teachings you find repulsive have nothing to do with it? Keep picking and choosing.

Kim said...

Does raping non-Muslims have anything to do with Islam? Yes. It's advocated by the Qur'an. Does forcing people to convert to Islam have something to do with Islam? Yes. It's advocated by the Qur'an.


Ok bring the verses and the commentaries and tafsirs. You have the resources as I can see that shelf behind you in your videos.

Raping female captives or nonmuslims and forcing people?

David Wood said...

Nice try, Kim. But I'm starting to believe that you're not really a Muslim, and that you're simply an atheist or agnostic who likes to start arguments for fun. No one can be this ignorant, illogical, and inconsistent. It's simply not possible.

Either way, we've all seen repeatedly that quoting sources is meaningless to you. I've dedicated several posts to you in the past, and you show no concern for reality whatsoever.

So I'm not buying it anymore. I've got roughly 11,000 things to do that are more important than writing posts in response to your silly demands.

Kim said...

I didn't know it took that long to copy+paste. No problem though, I'll have to sift through these posts and find what you mean.

I did take a look at all the posts under the tag "rape" but I didn't find anything about raping female captives. Just news articles on what Muslims have done and a JesusOrMuhammad show that talked about Aisha.

For the record, I do believe in God without a doubt, and firmly. That's why I chose to keep Islam as my religion. Submission to Him and to follow his Prophet.

I admire your sarcasm though.

Search 4 Truth said...

@ Kim

You know that i proved this multiple times. You know about them. It was obvious. Every time I posted them you never responded on that posting again. Ignored and deflected!


Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..."

Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."

Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur'anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." (Bukhari 34:432)

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)


* تفسير Tafsir al-Jalalayn
{ وَٱلْمُحْصَنَٰتُ مِنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَٰنُكُمْ كِتَٰبَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ مَّا وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُواْ بِأَمْوَٰلِكُمْ مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَٰفِحِينَ فَمَا ٱسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَٰضَيْتُمْ بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ ٱلْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيماً حَكِيماً }

And, forbidden to you are, wedded women, those with spouses, that you should marry them before they have left their spouses, be they Muslim free women or not; save what your right hands own, of captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses among the enemy camp


* تفسير Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn 'Abbâs
{ وَٱلْمُحْصَنَٰتُ مِنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَٰنُكُمْ كِتَٰبَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ مَّا وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُواْ بِأَمْوَٰلِكُمْ مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَٰفِحِينَ فَمَا ٱسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَٰضَيْتُمْ بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ ٱلْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيماً حَكِيماً }

(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War

Now run along and bury your head back in that hole!

Kim said...

Nothing about rape mentioned.

Perhaps thats why I didnt bother responding much?

donna60 said...

Kim, sweetheart,

Please tell me why you think Muslims believe that it is okay to rape women?

Even if they are wrong, why do you think they believe they have the right to do it?

Just explain to me that.

curly said...

Sad !!

Zack_Tiang said...

Love to hear what is actually considered rape in Islam or the Quran that Kim reads out of.

Kim, please define for us 'rape' according to the Quran.
kthxbai.

Search 4 Truth said...

Oh yeah Kim, I wonder how you would feel if you were taken captives with your sisters and Mother and daughters and cousins and were forced into having sex in the presence of your husbands?


From Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/278. The hadeeth was narrated by Muslim, 1736.

A slave woman does not have the right to refuse her master’s requests unless she has a valid excuse. If she does that she is being disobedient and he has the right to discipline her in whatever manner he thinks is appropriate and is allowed in shari’ah.


And before you begin your lies and logical fallacies. A good excuse is pregnancy or menstrual cycle!

I think Kim is one of the most despicable people I have ever encountered in my life. You need God badly. And not Islams Allah, he is Satan himself who commands the demons!

See thou not that We have set the Evil Ones on against the unbelievers, to incite them with fury? (19:83)

Kim said...

Thats how slavery worked back then. And of course I would resist. But we dont have too many female captives nowadays do we? Ty technology.

Search 4 Truth said...

@ Kim

]Why would you resist something that allah sanctioned?

And of course there is not much slavery anymore. But that does not detract from the fact that Allah condones such behavior. and if their was sharia this would occur more and more often. Mohamed and Allah are the best examples. Therefore it is permitted.

What mental; institution are you in? You computer privileges should be taken away! Unbelievable!

D335 said...

I'd like to quote James Whitcomb Riley with the duck test or something later on we recognize as inductive reasoning,

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is ....

COW? noooooooooo

The Liskov Substitution Principle as a counter-example to the duck test:
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck but it needs batteries, you probably have the wrong abstraction.

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Now in our own poor inductive reasoning, per definition (dictionary.com), that rape is:
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

-if a captors or a slave owner (with label or not),
-forced an act of sexual intercourse
(the idea of forcing against the victim's will)
-the captives /slaves (as virgin or women whose husband alive or not)

Therefore Quran 4:24
(Sahih International)
And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.

is indeed prescribing rape.

Of course if the duck requires a battery per contra inductive reasoning, or within the context the women may have a mutual consent, maybe we do have the wrong abstraction.

BUT If rape looks like a rape, sounds like a rape and fits the definition of a rape,
..... do you think the answer will be mutual consent sexual intercourse?
..... or just rape?.

Rape is also breach of many unethical conducts.
-Definitely forcing a person against the will.
-Also could be the failure of self-containing against lust.
-Also could be about power, specifically over-powering.
-Also could be endangering the safety, health, future prospect of a person.
-Also could be about gender superiority.
-Also could be about racism: looks, skin color and even hair color.
-Also could be a method of repressive authority.
-Also could be unethical way to resolve a conflict, i.e. war, Lot's decision during Soddom-Gomorrah, Islamic domination of the west, etc.
-Also could be the failure to stop a crime in progress, failure to report a crime, and the worst is also participating in a crime.

But then again, looking at how many "islamic spiritual lawyers" in here, we'd probably never have a united conclusion regarding rape in islam.

D335

Zack_Tiang said...

Why hasn't Kim explain what the Quran considers as rape?

Apparently, so far I've read, she doesn't consider forcing sex on slaves (whether married or even if the husband is still alive) as rape.
But personally, she herself would resist if she was in the slave's shoes.

Interesting.