AMMAN, NOVEMBER 16 - A man from the southern city of Tafilah killed his sister in public by slitting her throat for being involved in a romantic relation, police sources said on Wednesday.
The 18 year old man attacked his sister in the main bus station of the town, before being arrested, said the sources.
Eye witnesses said medics arrived when the girl was making her last breath as investigation continued to determine other culprits in the brutal attack.
The killer told police he wanted to kill his sister to cleanse the family honour after the victim admitted involvement with a man who wanted to marry her, said the police sources.
The death brings number of women killed in the name of honour to nearly 15 since the start of the year, say officials.
The government promised to adopt an iron fist policy with such cases following campaigns from human rights groups.
But activists say strict social habits make it difficult to eradicate such phenomena.
Killers are often handed a sentence between six months to one year for the murder, say activists. (Source)
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Muslim Slashes Sister's Throat to Restore Family Honor
More than 90 percent of "honor" killings around the world are committed by Muslims. That's called a "correlation."
Post #2: Irrelevant to Islam.
Correlation: Priests raping children. Most are Christians.
Does that mean anything?
Are you saying that more than 90% of raped children are raped by priests? Please provide your source. (Otherwise, your comparison breaks down.)
I'm waiting eagerly for your reply.
David...you might want this video for your blog. God bless him!
Is this really serious!
Killers are often handed a sentence between six months to one year for the murder, say activists.
How can they only get a maximum of 1 year for murder? That is totally outrageous!
" David...you might want this video for your blog. God bless him!
Now, that is a breath of fresh air! This guy gets it quite well. Now, only if others in high positions could get it too.
"More than 90 percent of "honor" killings around the world are committed by Muslims."
What's the source for this figure?
" Post #2: Irrelevant to Islam."
Protecting the honor of other Muslims, family name, and Islam are all part of the Islamic landscape. That is one of the reasons that Muslims throughout history cannot admit to atrocities they have committed. They have a sense of pride that prompts them to lash out at others rather than condemn themselves.
" Correlation: Priests raping children. Most are Christians."
It is a shame that people would actually cover up things like that. It does remind me of what Muslims do often when they deny that Islam is a violent religion by trying to quote peaceful verses and ignoring the context of Mohammad's last 10 years of prophethood where he reversed the rulings of those peaceful verses. At least other Christians condemned the acts of those priests who were, by the way, acting against Jesus' teachings. You surely can't say that about what this person did when he slit his sister's throat.
" Does that mean anything?"
That depends upon whether you can see the correlation that show that Muslims get such ideas and practices from Islam, whereas raping is not a part of Christianity and is not supported in any way.
Google rape in mosques and madrassas - the abuse in the Catholic Church is nothing compared to the abuse (sexual and physical) of muslim children. Mohammed was a child rapist and that is why muslims can too (most call it marriage). Islam is a revolting, child abusing cult.
"Why, didn't you know? That's why we even bother to have women in our Muslim families: so we can slaughter them for our honor! (and occasionally, to breed more males for Allahu Oynkkhsmoor)."
But of COURSE! It's necessary to butcher TWICE as many Muslim women 'cuz otherwise, there would have to be a Muslim male sacrificed... (everyone who knows anything at all about Islam knows that Muslim men are worth TWICE the value of a Muslim woman) The UMMAH demands it!!
So, if you're a Muslim male, be GRATEFUL that there are so many Muslim women just WAITING to restore your honor (if you ever had any) by being savagely and violently slaughtered (halal, of course).
Who says there's no such thing in Islam as substitutionary sacrifice?
Kafir and heartbroken...
If according to you the correlation is that Priests are raping children. Then would it be also a correlation to you when Moslem men will be raping seventy two or more virgins and 300 hundred boys every day in the presence of Allah?
Kim, what you're saying is not thought through. When priests rape little boys they deviate from Christianity and don't do it to honor God. When Muslims do honor killings they obey their Islamic theology and honor their false god.
I have stopped trying to reason with Kim.
The following point is IMU very important and it also distinguishes Christianity from BOTH Islam and many Jewish Rabbinical understanding of God.
NOW ive heard many Christians make the claim as well tht God is Omnipotent and Omniscient amongst other attributes. I ask DO WE FIND THESE TWO TERMS IN THE BIBLE FOR I HAVNT FND THEM n even if we did then the Bible certainly isnt defining them as the English equivalent of ALL-Powerful and ALL-knowing. I dont understand why CHristians have to then insist on this. Do they want to appeal to Muslims or even Rabbbinical misunderstandings, the latter of whom were confused on the use of the term "elohym" for example amongst many other things?
NOW GOD SAYS CLEARLY in the Bible that HE CANNOT LIE. PERIOD. He did not even say tht He has the potential to lie but always chooses not to, though from what i hear many Christians want to push it in that direction. HENCE lies ARE AGAINST GOD'S VERY NATURE which makes it utterly imposible for Him to do so and we shld accept that. Does this make God weak? Certainly NOT IMO. Infact id say it makes Hime ven more awesome and all the more glorious. Same is when Chrisians say that God doesnt actually rpent or regret or any of the other anthropomorphic terms used in the Bible. OK MAY I THEN ASK does GOD ALSO NOT ACTUALLY LOVE US? What about when God says that He created US IN HIS OWN IMAGE? Is that too "ONLY A METAPHOR"? NO MY FRIENDS i find this absurd to the highest degree. Similarly when God has given us the gift of free will He doesnt just mean free will wrt each other BUT WRT GOD HIMSELF meaning a Will which He will refrain from being able to predict AS IVE DISCUSSED BEFORE N YET GOD CAN ABSOLUTELY CARRY OUT HIS PLAN THROUGH INTERVENTION N EVEN BY CALCULATING ALL CHOICES MEN CLD POTNETILALY MAKE N USE THIS INFO AS AN ADDITION TO SETUP HIS PLAN. In conclusion the CXhristian God is not dull like the muslim one. INFACT on this issue ive to say tht the hadith r more anthropomorphically speaking of God than the Quran SO HERE ACTUALLY THE HADITH R BETTER. The Quran gives a very dull picture of God. Neither the OT nor ofcourse the NT does any of tht BUT unfortunately many Jewish Rabbis did (mis)interpret the OT tht way.
@ALL CHRISTIANS AGAIN
This also explains the verses in the Bible where God repented/turned away/refrained from unleashing(e.g. Jonah 3:30) his wrath that He initially willed. FIRST one shld note tht this wasnt part of God'S Grand Plan so there is no contra wrt that. BUT THIS ALSO SHOWS tht God's knwoledge of ones choices is PROBABILISTIC as He himself has chosen. Thus God calcuilated the best possible probability tht theyd do evil(like egs taking into accnt all wht theyd already chosen before n how evil wrt good it was etc) but due to their free will THERS STILL A CHANCE THEY WLD NOT which happened to be the case here so God then didnt go ahead n destroy them. SEE THT NOW HOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE?
Honor killing comes from Sahih Muslim and Al-Bukhari under the book of Nukah and the section of jealousy ...
صحیح البخاري - كِتَاب النِّكَاحِ - بَاب الْغَیْرَةِ
لَوْ رَأَیْتُ رَجُلًا مَعَ امْرَأَتِي لَضَرَبْتُھُ بِالسَّیْفِ غَیْرَ مُصْفَحٍ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى للهَُّ عَلَیْھِ وَسَلَّمَ أَتَعْجَبُونَ مِنْ غَیْرَةِ سَعْدٍ لَأَنَا أَغْیَرُ مِنْھُ وَللهَُّ أَغْیَرُ مِنِّي 4922
حَدَّثَنَا عُمَرُ بْنُ حَفْصٍ حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي حَدَّثَنَا
In Al-Bukhari says that Saad Ibn Abada told us "If I saw a man with my wife then I will kill him with my sword" and the prophet told them "Are you surprised that Saad is that jealous, because I am more jealous than Saad"
Here is a word used in Arabic called الدیوث "Al Dayyouth"
الدیوث: وھو الذي لا یغار علی
Al Dayyouth means a man who do not feel jealousy on his family/house "Cuckold" "a word applied to an adulterer"
According to Mohammed there are 3 kind of people that will NOT enter Al-jina/Allah will NOT look at them
1. Ingrate to his parents الْعَاقُّ لِوَالِدَیْهِ
2. boyish girl (tom boy)وَالْمَرْأَةُ
3. Al Dayyouth الدیوث
So we see that Al Dayyouth will not enter to Al Jana and not to mention that other people will make fun of this man because he is disgraced
Johny is high again, this time I guess the Quranic part clashes with the part that want to receive Jesus,... in which the condensed particle of phased plasma conductors, ....strings of red wire, cut the green 1... Red alert, armed the torpedoes..... direct it to tatooine and fire,.... and Luke I'm your father.......
anyone want to take a shot on whatever he's on right now? Just don't cross the red wire and the blue ones, or he'll rave all night.
Nope this time it was PURELY the person whos accepted Jesus. DIDNT I PT OUT tht it is THE QURTAN WHCIH MAKES GOD LOOK LIKE A MACHINE where u have to enter a certain code and whos predetermined everything n has no emotions n thus does not really love etc? I mean how more clear shld i make this pt?
I would love to discuss how God's sovereignty relates to Man’s freedom but don’t you think it’s more important for now to fully understand how his love and grace relates to his holiness and justice?
I for one am glad that God chose to lovingly interfere with my freewill because if he did not I would still be a willing slave to my own sinful desires sin.
I once was a mindless "walking dead" zombie inslaved to the devil and now I am alive and free in Christ.
Freedom is not free and this freedom cost Jesus everything.
Don't you think you should spend a little time showing your gratitude before you move on to the next intellectual puzzle.
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience-- among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ--by grace you have been saved--
@Fifty Monarch Man
I wldnt call it God interfering with man's free will as He sacrificed Himself on the cross COZ we still have to CHOOOSE WHETHER WE WANT TO ACCEPT HIS GIFT OR NOT using our free will as God Himself wants it to be. ALSO it's also not true that mankind's nature is ONLY TO SIN for even those who havnt accepted Christ yet many want to obey God but yes they fall short in that they do sin and that has to be atoned for i understand. THATS why i wrote a whole article to differentiate btw sin i.e. disobedience to God AND CRIME TOWARDS HUMANITY. though they're interrelated to a great extant NOT ALL LEGAL CRIMES we as humans define as such r necessarily sins NEITHER r all sins necessarily LEGAL CRIMES e.g. idolatry I THE BIGGEST SIN YET it is not a legally recognized crime. Denying the holocaust or even criticizing someones religion is a crime in some countries even to some extent in Germany BUT IT IS NOT A SIN.
The Fraud of Islam
From the primitive land of the Arabian Peninsula of over 14 centuries ago rose Muhammad, an illiterate hired hand of a rich widow Khadija, claiming he was the bearer of a perfect life prescription from God—the Quran. He claimed humanity could do no better than to follow its precepts as well as to emulate Muhammad’s own life example for a guarantee of bliss and salvation. In exchange for this, people had to embrace Islam—surrender—by surrendering their liberty to Muhammad.
I wldnt call it God interfering with man's free will
No offence but I don’t think you have had enough time studying the scripture to be able make a pronouncement on issues like this.
That is my whole point. You need to spend some time getting to know Christ then you will be in a better position to make pronouncements on the deep things like God’s sovereign grace.
we still have to CHOOOSE WHETHER WE WANT TO ACCEPT HIS GIFT OR NOT
If you spend some time in God’s word you will find that no one uses his freewill to choose God.
no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."
ALSO it's also not true that mankind's nature is ONLY TO SIN
I’m sorry but such a comment can only come from someone who has not yet taken the time to learn from Christ.
The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. They have all fallen away; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one.
For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person."
THATS why i wrote a whole article to differentiate btw sin i.e. disobedience to God AND CRIME TOWARDS HUMANITY.
Again you need to spend some time in God’s word
Sins against people are sins against God.
When David committed murder his sin was against God alone. (psalm 51:4) and Jesus made it clear that the commandment to love our neighbor is “like” the commandment to love God (Matthew 22:37-39) and that he considers sins against the least of these to be sins against him (Matthew 25:45) .
It’s things like this that compel me to ask you to please slow down and learn a little preferably from a elder in Christ in a Bible believing fellowship before you go around posting confident sounding statements about difficult doctrine that you know very little about .
I’m praying for you
Fifth Monarchy Man said...
"It’s things like this that compel me to ask you to please slow down and learn a little preferably from a elder in Christ in a Bible believing fellowship before you go around posting confident sounding statements about difficult doctrine that you know very little about ."
Hey, jonnykzj, take his advice, please, for your own sake.
"I’m praying for you"
Same here, I am praying for you to have some patience and discernment to know how to properly interpret scripture and listen to elders who know more than you. If we are not careful, we can develop our own doctrines and preach another Gospel.
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