ANKARA, FEBRUARY 12 - Four out of ten Turkish women are victims of physical abuse by their husbands and only a fraction report it to authorities, according to an official survey released today and published by daily Hurriyet website. The poll, conducted among 12,795 women in summer of 2008, found that 39% of those were "slapped, pushed, punched, choked, burnt or threatened or attacked with a weapon such as a knife or gun". Fifteen percent said they were victims of sexual abuse, described by the survey as being physically forced to have sex, having sex out of fear or being forced to engage in degrading or humiliating sexual acts. One in four women was injured as a result of physical or sexual violence. The poll, released by the governments office on the status of women, said that 48.5% of the victims did not tell anyone about the abuse while only 4% sought help from police and a mere one percent sought refuge in state-run shelters. Source.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Four out of Ten Turkish Women Are Victims of Physical Abuse by Their Husbands
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And this is supposed to prove what exactly? That Islam is responsible? Given how dominant secularism is in Turkey, it is highly unlikely that these abuses were sparked by religious motivations.
Think before you write (or bludgeon) Wood.
Is this really the same Ibn who has long been contributing to this blog? What happened to you?
Shame on you.
Have you no decency? Is this what Islam teaches? I am rapidly losing my respect for you.
Despite the country's strict separation of state and religion, it would be a mistake to assume that the Islamic faith exerts only a modest influence on the lives and values of Turkey's citizens. Indeed, when Turks are asked how important "having an enriched religious and spiritual life" is to them, roughly four in five describe it as either very important (37%), or as something that is "essential and you cannot live without" (41%).
Similarly, a quarter of all Turks (27%) say religion is the single most important thing in their lives -- ranking ahead of immediate family, extended family and community, country and self. A similar proportion (26%) places it second in this hierarchy, and only one in eight (13%) rates it as least important of the five. More than half of all Turks (53%) say that prayer "helps a great deal to soothe my worries," while just 6% say that prayer offers little assistance in this regard.
Reading preferences offer additional evidence of the importance of spiritual and religious matters to ordinary Turks. When asked what type of book they most prefer, books on religion (29%) rank just behind works of fiction (32%) as the single most popular choice.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/6724/Turkey-Secular-Firmly-Grounded-Islam.aspx
As is observable, the aforementioned was the case in 2002. Since then, religion has been playing a greater role in the lives of Turks.
Turkey has an Islamic heritage, Islam commands wife beating, in Turkey they beat their wives. It PROBABLY has something to do with Islam.
But hey... Notice the double standards. When wicked things are happening in the faith-condemning West which even the Bible condemns, Muslims will claim that it's Christianity's fault. Yet when something wicked goes on in countries with Islamic heritages which is allowed in Islam, it has nothing to do with Islam.
go figure!
Nakdimoron:Turkey has an Islamic heritage, Islam commands wife beating, in Turkey they beat their wives. It PROBABLY has something to do with Islam.
This is a post hoc ergo propter hoc.
You might have a case if you are able to establish a strong correlation, say within the range of 0.6-1, between religious Muslim men and wife beating. Can you do that?
Nakdimoron:But hey... Notice the double standards. When wicked things are happening in the faith-condemning West which even the Bible condemns, Muslims will claim that it's Christianity's fault. Yet when something wicked goes on in countries with Islamic heritages which is allowed in Islam, it has nothing to do with Islam.
It is still a post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Islam allows wife beating. A Muslim has beaten his wife. Therefore, it is because of Islam that a Muslim has committed violence on his wife. That's like saying America has a Christian heritage. Homosexuality thrives in America. Therefore, Christianity endorses homosexuality.
Taylor said: «Have you no decency? Is this what Islam teaches? I am rapidly losing my respect for you.»...
yes... I really ame bery found of mie foonie friende Ibn, but these words of him are very sad... but it's typical muslime argumentation when dealling with these kind of situation:
a) if they happen in a religious muslim country, it has nothing to do with islam, onlie to cultural aspects as if in a muslim religious country cultur and faith could be separeted;
b) if they happen in a muslim secular country, it has nothing to do with islam, onlie to the problems innerent to secularism;
c) if they happen in a muslim family radicated the west, it has nothing to do with islam, onlie to the (pseudo)decadent western morality;
d) if they happen in the muslim heaven (as is shown in the islamic escathologie where the women are treated as sexual objects...), it has nothing to do with islam, only to the will of allah...
shameful...
ibn said: "Think before you write (or bludgeon) Wood."
You are an asinine little "internet-tuff" keyboard jockey, ibn.
If I were David, you would have been blocked from commenting already. You have made a mockery out of yourself and anything you hoped to attempt to communicate here.
Cid:If I were David, you would have been blocked from commenting already
If you were David, you'd probably bludgeon me or put me in a sleeper. Lol!
ibn said: "If you were David, you'd probably bludgeon me or put me in a sleeper. Lol!"
Thank you for proving my point better than my words ever could.
Obviously the content David has been posting recently is too much for your sensitive little psyche to bear. I suggest you "lol" yourself right off the blog for a while to cool off (and bring some better jokes with you when you come back at least).
Ibn, I am extremely appalled at your behavior on this blog. Please stop it now!
Yes... mie foonie friend Ibn... please: don't go through that path... please: stop doing that...
by the way: do you want we start a chaine of prayers to help you as we did to Ousama Abdallah?
Brothers, the best thing is simply to ignore Ibn from now on.
There is no point to communicate with people engaging with this sort of behaviour.
Black-list him, don't read his posts and ignore him.
Ibn: Islam allows wife beating. A Muslim has beaten his wife. Therefore, it is because of Islam that a Muslim has committed violence on his wife. That's like saying America has a Christian heritage. Homosexuality thrives in America. Therefore, Christianity endorses homosexuality.
Which is the most moronic argument in weeks!
Islam ALLOWS wife beating! Christianity DOES NOT ALLOW homosexuality! SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
Is it me or are Muslims just extremely poor with analogies? I told ur brother Bassam to stop using analogies for this reason. You just might want to do the same!
Sorry Hogan, you're right. He has been given far too much attention already.
Good advice Hogan.
And we allow them to come into europe because ...?
Assuming Nakdimoron's not afraid to engage me, here's my response to his latest tomfoolery.
Nakdimoron:Which is the most moronic argument in weeks! Islam ALLOWS wife beating! Christianity DOES NOT ALLOW homosexuality! SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
You are tacitly making the same argument. Islam allows wife beating. Therefore, whenever a Muslim beats his wife, it is because of Islam. As I pointed out earlier, this is a post hoc ergo propter hoc. Do you know what this fallacy means, or must I spell it out for you?
Nakdimoron:Is it me or are Muslims just extremely poor with analogies?
It is you.
Hogan:Brothers, the best thing is simply to ignore Ibn from now on.
Why are you guys so agitated? Wood himself said that a Zebra cannot change its stripes. He said this in mockery of Sami Zaatari even though the latter apologized for his rude behavior. Instead of taking it down, Wood's vindictive post persists on answeringmuslims, showing to the world that, indeed, a zebra cannot change its stripes. Thus, Wood is just as capable of bludgeoning me or putting me on a sleeper as a Christian as he was as a sociopath.
Why are you guys so agitated? Wood himself said that a Zebra cannot change its stripes.
For undoubtedly the dumbest Muzzie on the planet: The Zebra cannot change its stripes stands for the consistent pattern in the behaviour of the person. David used it with Sami, because Sami was repeatedly displaying the same rude behaviour in all his encounters with non-Muslims. So the saying was on it’s place. But did you see or hear of David consistently repeating his past behaviour after he repented?
If not, then you finally get the point why your comparison is not on its place. So NO, it is not me, but you are actually miserable on analogies. Not only at analogies, but also at comparisons.
Do you know what this fallacy means, or must I spell it out for you?
LOL! Please spell it out for me, so we can all have a blast to see how you urself don’t understand what you are saying.
Mie friend Ibn... whie are you so turned up with Hogan's statement: «Brothers, the best thing is simply to ignore Ibn from now on»?...
It was you who saide you don't wanted to change opinions with anyone else than Professor Wood... I might bee wrong, bute Hogan was sayieng something in accordance with your alreadie expressed will...
Do you want to change it? Are you wiiling to debate us? Do you retract your rtatement that we are islamophobes? We have alreadie firgave you, butt you must be clearer with your intentions...
Lol! Looks like no one's paying attention to Hogan's plea.
Nakdimoron:For undoubtedly the dumbest Muzzie on the planet: The Zebra cannot change its stripes stands for the consistent pattern in the behaviour of the person. David used it with Sami, because Sami was repeatedly displaying the same rude behaviour in all his encounters with non-Muslims. So the saying was on it’s place. But did you see or hear of David consistently repeating his past behaviour after he repented?
You moron! If a zebra cannot change its stripes, then it is highly POSSIBLE that Wood can repeat his violent exploits (which he has by his own admission-he choked a person!). Even if Wood has managed to stay clean since his conversion, that doesn't necessarily mean, given the truthfulness of the proposition that a zebra can't change its stripes, that he will not strike again.
In other words, what is at stake is the possibility.
Nakdimoron:If not, then you finally get the point why your comparison is not on its place. So NO, it is not me, but you are actually miserable on analogies. Not only at analogies, but also at comparisons.
If I am poor at analogies, then you are an expert at attacking strawmen.
Nakdimoron:LOL! Please spell it out for me, so we can all have a blast to see how you urself don’t understand what you are saying.
Sheesh! Look how stupid Zionism has made you.
A post hoc ergo propter hoc occurs when something is assumed to be the cause of an event merely because it happened before that event.
It seems that Osama has left, but that Ibn has decided to carry on his legacy. We may have the latest Nadir/Osama in our midst!
Hey... have you seen someone around there saying things likke: moron, miserable, strawmen, stupid???
Typical muslim attitude...
Lol! Looks like no one's paying attention to Hogan's plea.
You moron! If a zebra cannot change its stripes, then it is highly POSSIBLE that Wood can repeat his violent exploits (which he has by his own admission-he choked a person!). Even if Wood has managed to stay clean since his conversion, that doesn't necessarily mean, given the truthfulness of the proposition that a zebra can't change its stripes, that he will not strike again.
My goodness! It is NOT the possibility, it is the PATTERN that is referred to with this saying! The stripes on a Zebra are a PATTERN that repeat throughout the zebra’s body which doesn’t go away. The saying doesn’t concern the EXCEPTIONS in behaviour but the PATTERNS in behaviour with no indication of change! You are so stupid, it hurts!
David put it all out for all to see. That is a sign of having dealt with the past and having put it behind him.
But perhaps if we looked at your life as it is NOW we would be able to mock you as well. But I’m sure that you wont put anything embarrassing out there for people to see, aside of your stupidity apparently.
Ibn: Sheesh! Look how stupid Zionism has made you.
A post hoc ergo propter hoc occurs when something is assumed to be the cause of an event merely because it happened before that event.
Ah! Was waiting for the standard Muzzie ad-hominem: If all else fails, blame the Jews! It’s a fact that Muzzie men have the prerogative to beat their wives and they will use it as excuse to hide behind. Since, because Allah says so, we better not disobey Allah. If Allah says that you have the right to beat her and you choose not to, you will get a smack on the back of the head. Because we all know that Allah got pissed when the Muzzies’ prophet didn’t exercise his rights for not taking advantage of Maryah the Copt, with whom he had an adulterous relationship. (oops… Allah made it lawful for Muhammad to commit adultery. Sorry, I forgot…)
Maybe I should follow Hogan’s plea. So, leave me be, you are not worthy of my time.
honestly brothers
Just ignore Ibn completely, he is not worthy of your time.
I have to admit though, related to this personal attack on my brother Wood, I recognise a few patterns and wordings in the writings of someone else. Unfortunately that person has deleted his comments months ago.
Nakdimoron:
Maybe I should follow Hogan’s plea. So, leave me be, you are not worthy of my time.
Everytime Nakdimoron get's cornered, he uses this excuse.
Ibn--
David didn't "choke" anyone -- choking someone is when you close off their airway, usually in an attempt to kill them or scare them by bringing them close to killing them.
David used a "sleeper hold" -- this is a maneuver by which you compress the carotid arteries, causing a brief hypoxic state which results in a loss of consciousness. This is known to be a safe method of detaining people, not intended to cause harm.
So quit exaggerating and get your facts straight.
Oh, and by the way Ibn: defending your wife is considered honorable in Christianity.
You keep talking about his defense of his wife as if it were a "violent episode". This makes me wonder about your view of Islam. If a man were to attack your wife, would you consider it a better option to let him go ahead and beat her?
Hmm.. maybe so. Maybe he'd just be saving you the trouble...
Nabeel,
What about the 8/10 women who get abused from their men due to alcohol? And what about the on going TERROR in your streets, especially on weekends, due to drunk drivers clashing with other cars and causing catastrophies by the 10s of thousands?
Christianity allows alcoholism and gambling. Gambling problems is another plague that is destroying your already morally-destroyed societies.
And like brother Ibn said, Turkey is known to be secular and anti-Islamic. Plus, is this statistic that you gave really accurate?
Osama Abdallah
www.answering-christianity.com
Osama--
I didn't give any statistics, and I didn't say anything about Turkey.
Get your people straight.
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