Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Virgins in Paradise

Allah will give you lots of sex in exchange for lots of violence.

Certainly nothing to worry about here.

18 comments:

Fernando said...

I don't beliebe this people portrayed in this video are muslims... they're, for sure, non-muslims disguissed in muslime fashion and using muslim wordes juste to make true muslimes look bad at the eyes of the westt...

But if they're true muslimes, I'm sure that all the muslim apologists in the west, so worried in showing that Islam is piessefull, will start to writte to them and explain whie they're all wrongue...

Bryant said...

But of course David, you know, that you are wrong for posting this; and the muslims in this video all practice the wrong type of Islam; and somehow, all the previous posts that have Muslims training their kids for Jihad, shouting genocidal statements against the west and Israel, persecuting millions of Christians because of their religion have nothing to do with Islam. Futhermore, we can find Christians doing the same thing even though we dont find a single video or scriptural proof proving this.

We know David that Jesus, Paul, and all the Apostles were not slain for their beliefs, but they like Muhammad took over lands by the sword to spread their beliefs.

So STOP distracting us with your irrelevent videos and focus on Islamic scripture so that the Muslims can reinterpret and deny their sources to refute you.

Matthew said...

"Oh yeah David? They are verses in the corrupted Bible were christians are commanded to become suicide-bombers so they can have 200 homosexual lovers in heaven!"

Ibn said...

Matthew:"Oh yeah David? They are verses in the corrupted Bible were christians are commanded to become suicide-bombers so they can have 200 homosexual lovers in heaven!"

Unfortunately, Christians can't wait till heaven. So they pursue homosexual relationships in this life.

Nakdimon said...

Ibn: ”Unfortunately, Christians can't wait till heaven. So they pursue homosexual relationships in this life.”

Sorry pal, no drunken orgies in our heaven. While what you say here is utterly false, isn’t it funny that in our heaven we will not marry nor be given into marriage. But in your paradise, everything that is forbidden here on earth will be the core of your existence in your paradise: endless alcohol and sex galore. That’s what rappers call big pimpin’: “Cristal and hoes!”

That this picture doesn’t disturb you guys at all…

Nakdimon

Ibn said...

Nakdimon:While what you say here is utterly false, isn’t it funny that in our heaven we will not marry nor be given into marriage. But in your paradise, everything that is forbidden here on earth will be the core of your existence in your paradise: endless alcohol and sex galore.

I don't see anything logically inconsistent about the Islamic Paradise. If we are to be admitted to Paradise as physical beings, it follows that the pleasure awaiting us be physical as well. In fact, pleasure is purely a sensory phenomenon. Without our senses, we can feel no pleasure. So if Paradise is about pleasure, then believers must partake in it as physical entities so that they can experience bliss. After all, what purpose would it serve for them to be in Paradise if they can't feel its glory?

Moreover, since Paradise is all about pleasure, and sex is just one of the components thereof, it is not logically inconsistent for sex to exist in Paradise, especially when the physicality of its inmates is considered.

All in all, I don't find anything funny about the Islamic Paradise. It is more rational than what the Gospels preach.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

Ibn wrote:

Moreover, since Paradise is all about pleasure, and sex is just one of the components thereof, it is not logically inconsistent for sex to exist in Paradise, especially when the physicality of its inmates is considered.

All in all, I don't find anything funny about the Islamic Paradise. It is more rational than what the Gospels preach.

Elijah replies:

I am sure that after 100 billion years in paradise, virgins, sex and vine will start getting pretty boring.

Ibn said...

Hogan:I am sure that after 100 billion years in paradise, virgins, sex and vine will start getting pretty boring.

People don't get tired of pleasure. If they lose interest in one activity, they go for another which is more pleasurable.

Since in Paradise the pleasure is never ending, it follows that the pleasure of the activities will never end. Hence, no one will get bored if they are yet to finish something that can never be finished.

Nakdimon said...

Ibn: “All in all, I don't find anything funny about the Islamic Paradise. It is more rational than what the Gospels preach.”


Ibn, I dont find it funny either, I find that concept detestable! That you find it rational (!!!) says a lot about your mindset.

A drunken heavenly orgy is more rational to this guy than a close encounter with God. Need I say more?

Can I ask you something: What is the reward for pious Muslim women in the afterlife?

Nakdimon

Ibn said...

Nakdimon thinks that by appealing to emotions (which is a fallacy) he has successfully refuted my arguments. What an idiot!

Nakdimon said...

Ibn: “Nakdimon thinks that by appealing to emotions (which is a fallacy) he has successfully refuted my arguments. What an idiot!”

No answer! Just as I thought. Any Muslim that I pose this question to is too embarrassed to answer it. But maybe you missed the question in my lengthy post, so let me post it again:

What is the reward for pious Muslim women in the afterlife? What kind pleasure do THEY have to look forward to?

Ibn said...

The pious women will be transformed into hoors.

Matthew said...

Unfortunately, Christians can't wait till heaven. So they pursue homosexual relationships in this life.

What have we learned today?
When someone parodies the "tu qouque"-fallacy you usually use to make an argument, pick another one. There are so many of them to use.

Matthew said...

Nakdimon thinks that by appealing to emotions (which is a fallacy) he has successfully refuted my arguments. What an idiot!

That one made me chuckle.

Hogan Elijah Hagbard said...

I think Ibn is describing into the Islamic heaven, a range of details non-existing in the Qur'an.

Also Ibn wrote:

The pious women will be transformed into hoors.

Elijah replies:

Now where does the Qur'an say that pious women will be transformed into hoors.

And furthermore, why are these women not blessed with 70 virgin men each, like their earthly males?

Something here tells me that the islamic heaven is fairly much a bliss for the male fantasy.

Nakdimon said...

Ibn: "The pious women will be transformed into hoors."

(WOW! That is the shortest reply of Ibn I have ever seen! What reluctance to elaborate. Because he knows that there is no honor in becoming one of the 72 sex slaves for ONE man in Paradise!)

SOURCE FOR THIS PLEASE? You made a claim without substantiating it with an ayah or an "authentic narration".

Ibn said...

For Nakdimoron. The hadith about martyrs getting 70 heavenly women is false. All the reliable traditions say that a believing man will be wedded to two women.

As for earthly women being morphed into hoors, I don't have the sources at the moment, but for the time being, this should suffice:

http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/
Satellite?
cid=1123996016108&
pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_
Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE

Nakdimon said...

Ibn: “For Nakdimoron.”

Hmmm… If I didn’t know better, I would think that this was meant as a low blow under the category “if you get blasted, resort to insults”.


Ibn: “The hadith about martyrs getting 70 heavenly women is false. All the reliable traditions say that a believing man will be wedded to two women.”

Oh my… here we have the “fabricated hadith” escape clause again. The first generations of Muslims were supposedly the best ones but they delivered one of the worst works ever in religion. Why is it false? Because you don’t like it? So all these Muslims in the video are being lured by those evil imams that promise them 72 virgins nonetheless? Please elaborate.

Ibn: “As for earthly women being morphed into hoors, I don't have the sources at the moment, but for the time being, this should suffice:”

NOPE! That will not suffice. Maybe you should bother looking up the exact source, because if you think that I will go through all those articles to look up something about hoors (that’s funny! In Dutch the word “hoer”, which is the exact same pronunciation as “hoor”, is a hooker/prostitute/bimbo, etc. i.e. sexually immoral woman) you have another thing coming.