Sunday, August 31, 2008
Question for Muslims: Substitutionary Atonement
My last question addressed Original Sin, and Muslims gave several objections. However, some of the responses were to Atonement, not to Original Sin. This leads to my next question for my Muslim friends. What are your objections to the Christian claim that one Being (Jesus) could die for the sins of other beings (us)?
7 comments:
Why does God need a scapegoat?
Are we justified by faith alone and not by works (Galtians. 2:16) or are we justified by works and not by faith alone (James 2:24)?
David; Did u get my Email
Yes.
Why does God need a scapegoat?
This is interesting Questions.I would like too refer too surat 2 aya 54 which states:
'And (remember) when Mûsa (Moses) said to his people: "O my people! Verily, you have wronged yourselves by worshipping the calf. So turn in repentance to your Creator and kill yourselves (the innocent kill the wrongdoers among you), that will be better for you with your Lord." Then He accepted your repentance. Truly, He is the One Who accepts repentance, the Most Merciful'
According too ibn katheer on this specifik aya:
Allah ordered Musa to command his people to kill each other. He ordered those who worshipped the calf to sit down and those who did not worship the calf to stand holding knives in their hands. When they started killing them, a great darkness suddenly overcame them. After the darkness lifted, they had killed seventy thousand of them. Those who were killed among them were forgiven, and those who remained alive were also forgiven.'(Http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=2016)
It seems that because of the blood of the 70;000 the others who were still ALIVE were also forgiven for there transgression
'Those who were killed among them were forgiven, and those who remained alive were also forgiven.'
Christian-thinktank website has some good articles on the subject, some of them listed here:
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/inmyplace.html (legality of penal substitution)
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/whyjust.html (why not just forgive)
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/thecross.html (The Work of Christ on the Cross)
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/irruption.html (atonement/sacrifice mp3)
Nobody claimed God needed a scapegoat. That's just how he deals with sin in BOTH the old and new testaments. I take what God says at his world.
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