Here's a debate I did a long time ago at the University of California. The topic was "Who Was Muhammad? The Christian and Muslim Perspectives." If you'd like to have some fun while you're watching the debate, pull out a piece of paper and try writing down Ali's arguments for the Prophethood of Muhammad. You'll need about one line.
DAVID'S OPENING STATEMENT
ALI'S OPENING STATEMENT
REBUTTALS
CROSSFIRE & CONCLUSIONS
You can read some reviews of the debate here and here.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
David Wood vs. Ali Ataie: "Who Was Muhammad?"
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23 comments:
David,
Is it just me or is there no audio?
Oh never mind. There was audio after I posted my comment!
David, Well sir. Is there a way I can get your email. I have something I want to email you.
Are you going to make me a martyr?
lol David
LOL, no I'm not going to make you a martyr. I should change the nick its a old one from the days after 9-11. Its in response to the muslim claim that they "love death more then we love life"
Surprisingly I dont have a problem with muslims loving death more then I love life. Actualy I'm very happy that I love life. As God says "If you love death then you hate me"
You can get my email address from the Acts 17 website.
I can't get audio.
There's a little volume bar on the screen. I don't know what could be the problem apart from that.
Did I hear David say ver batim in the debate that Jesus said the OT was wrong?
I've never watched the debate (or any of my debates, really), but I can't imagine myself saying that. When did I say it?
lol Do you cringe at hearing your own voice too David?
Yes.
David, do you find certain things from the Old Testament "disturbing"?
Yes. Not as disturbing as I find certain things in Islam, but yes.
David, did u get my email on the OT?
Nope.
David, Its from gmail, fatfunnyxxx.
Your message may have been filtered because it sounds like a porn site. Try emailing me at wood_apologetics@hotmail.com.
Thanks David. Look for a email from a yahoo account, title "email from Martyr Maker". If you wish to respond then please respond to my Gmail account. Thanks
I can't see the videos. I've tried IE7 and Firefox. I've downloaded the lateste Adobe Flash Player and it's still just empty white frames. Any suggestions? (I can see all of the YouTube and GoogleVideo videos.)
same muslims answers:
escape answering about islam
ignore their own sources
provide another interpretation to their quran, hadith and scholars !!
I dont know what christianity would do in a debae about muhammed, several time he goes of topic asking about christianity !!!
He abuses the bible, mutilating texts, getting it out of context, and never tried to read any commentaries before he argue
doesnt this prove how weak islam is ?! and how ignorant muslims are !!
1. Having a 15 years age difference , gives Khadija the upper hand, specially she was wealthy and bussiness women. So logically mohamed couldnt marry another or have polygamy, otherwise he will lose a lot.
2. When Khadija died , mhamed aven't reached menopause, so he married a lot cuz of lust deisre as he was still sexually young
3. Not all of his marriages were political, yes few were, what about the rest ?!
4. U stil didnt get the point, it is not about polygamy as much as it is of having more privelege, abusing the quran
5. U say exceptional, well ok we can understand this in a view of prophecy and sprituality with Allah. But not in terms of hypersexulality and marrying more than the limited number.
6 Ali ... This debate has nothing to do with christianity, Havent you read the name ? cant u understand ?!! it was supposed to be about Muhammed ?!! so no time to discuss christianity in this debate, .... btw werent u te one who choose the topic , is this how u prefer for a topic about muhammed by reading the bible ?????
imagine how many people wanted to know about muhammed in this debate, but you know what ppl realized, that it is soooo weak, not able t answer a single question ,, all the time about christianity, And the fact that ppl also understands that this not about christianity, so they would actully encourage David to answer you and go off topic like you. Thanks David that you tried to adhere to the context of the debate as possible.
God bless
Atie:
You have to understand something important for your future debates:
Christianity is not built upon the bible, but JESUS himself!!
if no Jesus , No christianity !!
opposite is true for islam, it is buit upon quran and Sunna !!! so hitting any of these, u will fall down.
But no matter what you hit in christianity, doesnt matter!! havent you seen even if there are Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant.. and all these sects, with some different ideas... doesnt matter for them... why ?!! it is all about christ !!! and thats why satan focused on in your quran, 600 years later, after he failed using tortures, and then Hertics ... he brought up islam comining both hertic and persecution ... but see , christianity still and will remain strong :)
So let me tell you, say whatever you want about the bible , or whatever Jesus did or said ,,,, But since Jesus Deity is well proven everywhere even in your quran, and everywhere, so he is God untill proven otherwise !!
Thats what he said about himself he is the corner stone.
Dont get me wrong, The bible is the word of God ... but in order to prove it wrong, first prove that jesus wrong , get it !!
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